The solution is the dump the instant replay entirely. It is a joke and has always been a joke. Add a rule where the result of the game can be overturned, or the ref gets fined then fired for grievous errors. ANYTHING but Instant replay.
Seahwkgal":zjd6gltx said:This will ruin the game. They will take 4+ Hours to finish.
mrt144":24oyb22v said:nIdahoSeahawk":24oyb22v said:The only thing that makes me nervous is that it hurts teams when there were multiple issues with a play that the refs held their flags on. For example, the Sherman INT a few years back that could have had PI called on his contact with Fitz. There was an illegal hands to the face by Fitz at the start of the play. The refs let both calls go. If that happened this season, it gets reviewed and they call PI, ignoring the call they should have made on Fitz, which would offset.
In scenarios like that, this new rule has the potential to negatively impact the game.
Julio Jones?
nIdahoSeahawk":1ekztikx said:The only thing that makes me nervous is that it hurts teams when there were multiple issues with a play that the refs held their flags on. For example, a Sherman play a few years back that could have had PI called on his contact with JJ. There was an illegal hands to the face by Julio at the start of the play. The refs let both calls go. If that happened this season, it gets reviewed and they call PI, ignoring the call they should have made on Jones, which would offset.
In scenarios like that, this new rule has the potential to negatively impact the game.
nIdahoSeahawk":85vfyfnx said:mrt144":85vfyfnx said:nIdahoSeahawk":85vfyfnx said:The only thing that makes me nervous is that it hurts teams when there were multiple issues with a play that the refs held their flags on. For example, the Sherman INT a few years back that could have had PI called on his contact with Fitz. There was an illegal hands to the face by Fitz at the start of the play. The refs let both calls go. If that happened this season, it gets reviewed and they call PI, ignoring the call they should have made on Fitz, which would offset.
In scenarios like that, this new rule has the potential to negatively impact the game.
Julio Jones?
Well that’s embarrassing. This is what happens when I try to remember a play first thing in the morning. Edited my original post, and thanks for the catch.
Tical21":1i6nnso1 said:It's mere existence negatively impacts the game.
Final 2 minutes are now going to take 30. Crap receivers are going to get 40 yard plays because slow motion shows they got touched by a DB. The solution is far worse than the problem ever was.
Seymour":3s0wlne7 said:austinslater25":3s0wlne7 said:They made this more complicated than it needed to be. Have an eye in the sky for each crew that can communicate with the guys on the field. If that's in place last year during the Saints game they huddle up, talk about it and make the right call and it takes all of 1 minute.
This^^^
They just made a bad situation worse. I don't like the 15 yd penalty call either. That just promotes tacking the WR when he is beating you to save the TD.
TwistedHusky":b7zxmyjj said:More ability for referees to steer the outcome of games by making subjective decisions.
Popeyejones":14u9pcam said:TwistedHusky":14u9pcam said:More ability for referees to steer the outcome of games by making subjective decisions.
I've seen multiple people say this and I truly don't get it.
If you believe that steering exists, the ability for coaches to challenge calls and have them changed makes steering HARDER, not easier.
If you want to steer a game, by far the best way to do that is to have every call that a ref makes just stand. Anything not that gets in the way of it.
The problem with conspiratorial thinking is that once you believe in a conspiracy, everything becomes a sign of it, even when it doesn't make any sense.
If the Steelers didn't exist I wouldn't have the steering issue in my head.Popeyejones":3rdj18at said:TwistedHusky":3rdj18at said:More ability for referees to steer the outcome of games by making subjective decisions.
I've seen multiple people say this and I truly don't get it.
If you believe that steering exists, the ability for coaches to challenge calls and have them changed makes steering HARDER, not easier.
If you want to steer a game, by far the best way to do that is to have every call that a ref makes just stand. Anything not that gets in the way of it.
The problem with conspiratorial thinking is that once you believe in a conspiracy, everything becomes a sign of it, even when it doesn't make any sense.
mrt144":2c3xt956 said:I think more than anything else, when it comes to sports related conspiracies, if you fully believe them then why in the world devote interest into a sport like there isn't steering or conspiracy involved? Why get fired up about draft picks if you know in the back of your mind, the NFL will always screw over Seattle? Why care about the guts of a rigged game to the extent you do if it's all rigged?
Okay, so the claim gets walked back some - Seattle suffers more ref malarkey than other teams. Why are you still following a league that you believe has it out for your specific franchise? The NFL doesn't care if you're some anti steering insurgent who will pull the curtain back. They care about your eyeballs watching the game.
This isn't like some conspiracy about Free Masons or some stuff where it's like, even if you knew about some world encompassing conspiracy to control everything you'd still be powerless. Nah man, this is an entertainment enterprise, you can just ya know, not watch a rigged game...if you actually believe it.
IndyHawk":2c3xt956 said:If the Steelers didn't exist I wouldn't have the steering issue in my head.
That franchise since the mid 70's has had so much given through calls it's
hard to deny something was off..Start with the immaculate reception game
to the win against Arizona in the SB..Unreal
Popeyejones":1oz69ffn said:I think they probably are the "biggest beneficiary" of steering to you not becaues they're the Steelers, but because you're a Seahawks fan and the blown call in XL stands out to you.
Ad Hawk":3574gkiq said:Popeyejones":3574gkiq said:I think they probably are the "biggest beneficiary" of steering to you not becaues they're the Steelers, but because you're a Seahawks fan and the blown call in XL stands out to you.
Do you think there was only one, singular, bad call in that game that benefited the Steelers? There's where the problem really lies in this discussion.
Ad Hawk":3574gkiq said:Pass Interference is too big a play to get wrong, and in the Saints playoff appearance, it was game-changing at that point. In fact, it was so blatant that the ref should have been fired and never allowed to ref again.
Ruminator":s4hvhfm7 said:Now that PI calls are reviewable, I foresee coaches occasionally getting frustrated with the two-challenge limit. While it sucks, it would not surprise me to see the limit increased to three in a couple years.