NFL Owners Approve 3rd QB Rule

[kidhawk]

NFL owners pass proposal to allow teams to have third QB active on game days without using roster spot

NFL owners approved a bylaw proposal on Monday at the Spring League Meeting allowing clubs to dress a third QB without using an active roster spot on game days.

www.nfl.com

So, teams will now be allowed to have their third quarterback active and not count against the active roster. Of course we currently only have 3 quarterbacks, so we will either need to get another, or there won't be much of a "battle" for that last spot.

 

[Mick063]

This goes back to the concept that with skyrocketing QB salaries, it has become prohibitively expensive to develop quarterbacks that can potentially take all of your coaching investment elsewhere. In effect, this addresses the investment risk of developing quarterbacks. Further, and following the economic rules of "supply and demand", if you add 32 "coached up" quarterbacks to the pool, you effectively address the dearth of experienced quarterbacks which inherently drives their salary structures up. Simple economics. Flood the market with a given product and its price will go down. This is a boon for the Geno Smiths of the world where they can find a tolerant, patient landing spot after their original organization has given up on them. For example, it probably saved the professional career of the Jet's Zach Wilson.

In summary, this is purely a fiscal decision and a wise one at that.

 

[Jerhawk]

This is a good rule and I support it.

I've never understood why the league doesn't allow a team to dress all 53 players. Just let them be active on gameday. What's the big deal?

 

[toffee]

How many QBs does the Denver Broncos have?

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

How many QBs does the Denver Broncos have?

At the moment, four. Russell, Stidham, Guarantino and DiNucci.

 

[toffee]

At the moment, four. Russell, Stidham, Guarantino and DiNucci.

no big names, Broncos are sensitive to Wilson's insecurity.

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

no big names, Broncos are sensitive to Wilson's insecurity.

Stidham almost beat Purdy. Hes a high end. He can at least throw to the middle…

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

This is the excerpt I find most confusing from the nfl story.

Each club may also designate one emergency third quarterback from its 53-player Active/Inactive List (ji.e., elevated players are not eligible for designation) who will be eligible to be activated during the game, if the club's first two quarterbacks on its game day Active List are not able to participate in the game due to injury or disqualification (activation cannot be a result of a head coach's in-game decision to remove a player from the game due to performance or conduct).
And this
A club is not eligible to use these procedures if it carries three quarterbacks on its game day Active List [47- or 48-players in 2023].

 

[kidhawk]

This is the excerpt I find most confusing from the nfl story.

Each club may also designate one emergency third quarterback from its 53-player Active/Inactive List (ji.e., elevated players are not eligible for designation) who will be eligible to be activated during the game, if the club's first two quarterbacks on its game day Active List are not able to participate in the game due to injury or disqualification (activation cannot be a result of a head coach's in-game decision to remove a player from the game due to performance or conduct).
And this
A club is not eligible to use these procedures if it carries three quarterbacks on its game day Active List [47- or 48-players in 2023].

I assume the bold section is what has you confused.

What that means is that the third quarterback cannot be hidden away on the practice squad and elevated for gameday. You must have him on the 53 man roster and named inactive for the game. So you can’t just put him on the practice squad and use him as an emergency quarterback.

Personally I think it would be a better rule if they allowed the use of practice squad players but who am I to say?

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

I assume the bold section is what has you confused.

What that means is that the third quarterback cannot be hidden away on the practice squad and elevated for gameday. You must have him on the 53 man roster and named inactive for the game. So you can’t just put him on the practice squad and use him as an emergency quarterback.

Personally I think it would be a better rule if they allowed the use of practice squad players but who am I to say?

If a ps player is elevated, that means he IS on the 53 for that game. What’s the difference?

 

[HagFaithful]

Kaepernick still won't have a job...

 

[kidhawk]

If a ps player is elevated, that means he IS on the 53 for that game. What’s the difference?

When you elevate a practice squad player for gameday, he's not counted as part of the 53 man roster, he's an additional player and reverts back to the practice squad.

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

When you elevate a practice squad player for gameday, he's not counted as part of the 53 man roster, he's an additional player and reverts back to the practice squad.

When you elevate a ps, they’re one of 53 active or inactive players on that days gameday roster.

I guess this is about the one Exception in which an inactive player can play?

 

[renofox]

When you elevate a ps, they’re one of 53 active or inactive players on that days gameday roster.

I guess this is about the one Exception in which an inactive player can play?

A team can elevate 2 PS players per week, turning the 53-man roster into a 55-man roster. Of these 55 players, 48 can be activated for the game, leaving 7 of the original 53 as inactive.

If there are 3 QBs on the 53-man roster, all 3 can be activated with 1 being exempt giving the team 49 players active for the game but with limitations on QB substitutions.

 

[kidhawk]

When you elevate a ps, they’re one of 53 active or inactive players on that days gameday roster.

I guess this is about the one Exception in which an inactive player can play?

Reno nailed it pretty well. Basically when you bring up a practice squad player for a geme, the roster expands. The original 53 are still there, but you also have the player(s) from the practice squad. The team then decides which players from this expanded pool to activate for the game. After the game, the PS player reverts to the practice squad. The original 53 man roster stays intact.

 

[Mick063]

Reno nailed it pretty well. Basically when you bring up a practice squad player for a geme, the roster expands. The original 53 are still there, but you also have the player(s) from the practice squad. The team then decides which players from this expanded pool to activate for the game. After the game, the PS player reverts to the practice squad. The original 53 man roster stays intact.

The other aspect of this is that a practice squad player can be of ANY position while this new fore mentioned rule is specific to ONLY quarterbacks. Why is this significant? Because a team may opt to not carry a third quarterback on the practice squad if they choose not to (although it is crazy not to and teams rarely do this). This new rule literally forces teams to keep a minimum of three quarterbacks, hence reinforcing the "supply and demand" aspect that I mentioned in an earlier post. Further, when a given quarterback gets injured and placed on IR, teams will still be forced to retain three quarterbacks on their roster, even though they may expect the injured QB back within the same season.

 

[sutz]

IIRC, this is a bit of a throwback to the former rule about the #3 QB, prior to teams being allowed to call up PS players on a spot basis. We did that for a couple of years, having a #3 QB on the PS but not on the 53. Back then, you would carry 3 QBs on the 53, but wouldn't activate QB3 to the 47 on gameday, but he was available in disaster situations.

This sounds like a good rule, albeit a bit complicated in its execution.

 

[renofox]

IIRC, this is a bit of a throwback to the former rule about the #3 QB, prior to teams being allowed to call up PS players on a spot basis. We did that for a couple of years, having a #3 QB on the PS but not on the 53. Back then, you would carry 3 QBs on the 53, but wouldn't activate QB3 to the 47 on gameday, but he was available in disaster situations.

This sounds like a good rule, albeit a bit complicated in its execution.

Yes, they had the QB3 "emergency QB" gameday inactive exemption in place for ~15 years (?1995-2010ish?).

This is the same basic thing but cannot be a PS QB. All 3 QBs must be on the 53-man roster to get the exemption. The substitution rules seem to be the same - #1 and #2 must be unable to play the remainder of game due to injury before using #3, and once #3 goes in #1 & #2 are disqualified.

 

[flv2]

The new rule is a bad rule, but it's better than no rule for a 3rd QB. It will benefit teams who have a developmental QB on their active roster because the player would be claimed/poached if he was cut to put on the PS. It won't help teams that have a veteran 3rd QB on their PS. Those teams aren't going to expose a promising player to the PS just to put the veteran #3 QB on the active roster, (which would also cost the team money rather than save it). The new rule won't help teams who have their young/emergency QB on the PS. The NFL should have exempted QBs from the PS promotion limit and ruled that an emergency QB from the PS only received a game check if he actually played. (There should be a similar rule for a replacement K & P). As it is the NFL will be embarrassed by the number of teams not naming an emergency #3 QB on game days.