Lock and Re-load?

[Cyrus12]

Schefter reporting that there is a good chance Lock starts tomorrow...must be a groin pull of the likes no one has seen before. Was really hoping Geno was gonna be back for this one.

 

[Wheetie]

Lock can perform as well as Geno, plus he has was more explosive mobility even with Geno healthy. If Geno is in any way limited, I'm hoping Lock starts.

 

[Cyrus12]

Well if anything the added reps and prep should be better for Lock to come out and play. I didnt think he played poorly but I still think a healthy Geno gives them a better chance to win.

 

[Mistashoesta]

 

[Cyrus12]

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Let's ride!!!

 

[Mistashoesta]

Ive seen enough of Geno for the year. The games to me just weren't entertaining to watch. Ride it out with Lock. Sink or swim.

 

[renofox]

Ive seen enough of Geno for the year. The games to me just weren't entertaining to watch. Ride it out with Lock. Sink or swim.

I could get behind this. Especially if they start giving him all the 1st team reps so he can build some rapport with his receivers.

At least he got a day last week and some reps this week.

How about ALL next week.

 

[flv2]

I hope the Seahawks and/or Smith aren't shutting down the season for contract reasons.

 

[Cyrus12]

Well if Lock starts because of a coaches decision the rest of the way..what is the cap hit for Geno's release?

 

[Cyrus12]

I hope the Seahawks and/or Smith aren't shutting down the season for contract reasons.

Isn't his contract bonus structured? Or a lot of it?

 

[renofox]

I hope the Seahawks and/or Smith aren't shutting down the season for contract reasons.

I hope they ARE. If Geno gets "injured" his 2024 salary is basically guaranteed.

Well if Lock starts because of a coaches decision the rest of the way..what is the cap hit for Geno's release?

$17.4 dead money which is irrelevant because that is money he has already been paid and will be a cap hit whether he is cut or not.

$12.7 salary and $9.6 roster bonus that becomes guaranteed 5 days after the SB. Total $22.3 cap savings if he is cut before then.

He needs to be uninjured and released.

Bench him now.

edit; math error

 

[hoxrox]

Geno has to surpass these stats from last year to receive those bonuses:

passing yards (4,282) - currently 2,918
touchdown passes (30) - currently 15
completion rate (69.755%) - currently 64.4%
passer rating (100.874) - currently 89.1

Doesn't look like he'll hit any of them at this point.

 

[Cyrus12]

Geno has to surpass these stats from last year to receive those bonuses:

passing yards (4,282) - currently 2,918
touchdown passes (30) - currently 15
completion rate (69.755%) - currently 64.4%
passer rating (100.874) - currently 89.1

Doesn't look like he'll hit any of them at this point.

Interesting...yep not much point of forcing him in there. So if Lock pulls out a win he likely starts the rest of the way perhaps.

 

[hawkfan68]

Smith being out is not strange at all. I'm not a doctor but while doing a Google search I found information that suggests a typical groin injury takes 3 to 6 weeks for recovery. Maybe even longer. Here's an article I found on this - https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/321007#recovery

 

[flv2]

Isn't his contract bonus structured? Or a lot of it?

@renofox is saying the same thing. The Seahawks have to make a decision about Smith for 2024 in the February waiver period. If he isn't medically healthy enough to be released his 2024 contract effectively becomes guaranteed. (Basically a re-run of the 2023 Jamal Adams contract situation). Smith not being available could be a sign that the Seahawks are planning to release him and that neither side wants to create any negative PR. I hope this isn't the case but i'd understand it if it was. It's the downside to these short-term conditional NFL contracts.

 

[renofox]

Isn't his contract bonus structured? Or a lot of it?

I think you're talking about the escalators? $2.0 each for total yards, TDs, compl %, QBPR, and playing 80% of snaps plus getting 10 wins. If he hits all 5 he gets an extra $5.0. Potential salary escalation of $15.0 each for 2024 and 2025. No effect on 2023, but cap savings, if released, would increase commensurate with any escalators earned.

He has a small chance to hit the 80%/10wins if he keeps playing, but it’s nearly impossible for him to hit any of the others.

 

[pittpnthrs]

I thought Geno was playing for some reason. If Lock starts, I need to change my prediction. I don't think he can lead the team to a victory over Philly. Could be wrong though. Hope I am.

 

[renofox]

I thought Geno was playing for some reason. If Lock starts, I need to change my prediction. I don't think he can lead the team to a victory over Philly. Could be wrong though. Hope I am.

Just like last week, PC says "He's day to day". I heard Geno and Lock have split 1st team reps every day this week.

Who knows?

 

[pittpnthrs]

Just like last week, PC says "He's day to day". I heard Geno and Lock have split 1st team reps every day this week.

Who knows?

Well now I read Hurts might not play. This game is all over the place.

 

[RiverDog]

Well now I read Hurts might not play. This game is all over the place.

If it's a contest between back-up QB's, Philly has Marcus Mariota, who has a ton of experience with several teams. I'd say that the QB situation would favor Philly.