Harvin - "ailing hip"....(labrum)

[ExperienceJones]

My bad, sounds like I misheard.

 

[MizzouHawkGal]

Talk about impatient. You seriously need to chill out because whatever the deal is we will know soon enough, excuse me that it's just not matching your personal schedule. :roll:

Just in case you weren't aware... people can have a different opinion on a particular subject. It is actually allowed on the internet, believe it or not.

But the irony of your bossy madam routine telling someone to "chill out" has been noted.

I don't care that you have an opposing opinion because your opinion whatever it imay be is yours and you have a perfect right to it. But know that it affects nothing about the situation or myself.

 

[Hawknballs]

so far this is the only solid anything i can find, from Sando just saying Percy is taking tonight to weigh his options, which probably means it's up to him if he's going to get surgery that will likely end most or all of his season, or if he's going to play through it.

my hope is that he plays through it. I don't need him to be spectacular, I just want him to be a threat.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp13/s ... gh-options

 

[HawkWow]

Move on from what? They haven't even played one preseason game or even got to the first cutdown day. Seems the only drama going on is completely in your head.

Yes... it's all me. This is actually a subject of minor interest to Seahawks fans and the wider NFL. In fact I doubt anyone is really all that interested in it. It'll probably be filed underneath "Blaine Gabbert camp update" and "Andy Reid eats sandwich" on NFL.com

Meanwhile, back on planet earth...

:roll:

Damn straight.

I agree with this in it's entirety. Further, call me a pr*ck, but I don't have a lot of concern re. whether or not Harvin walks with a slight limp as he laughs his way to the bank for the next 60 years. There is a trade off in life and in sports. Not many in here can say they don't risk a piece of their future happiness to provide for the family today. We are not the Shanahan ran Redskins. We are known for being cautious and caring of our team. IF the Hawk doc has cleared him to play, he should be playing. Period. If not, give the money back and GTFOODodge. In what other occupation is Harvin equipped to bank 25 million front money? I hear football is a very rough sport and there has even been reports of injury. It's part of the game and that is the trade off.

Stallone pumped roids to chisel his body. He understood this may cause him problems later in life so his trade off was: be a semi-dumb thumb breaker, ala Rocky, for life, or push the envelop and live a few less years but do so as a jet-setting, multi-millionaire playboy. Harvin, and every other player, has committed to this same trade off. Harvin made a choice and we lived up to our end of the deal. Now it's time for him to do the same, unless he wants to replace Kelly Stouffer and Dan McQwire on our biggest bust of all time list.

I sincerely hope this rant was for naught and we get good news sooner than later. Rant over.

 

[theENGLISHseahawk]

Why should a player make a medical decision that affects his future based on the impatience of the media and the fanbase? That seems like a terrible reason to rush into a major medical decision. The fact that many fans are freaking out about this should have no baring on the decision. Any decision should be made based on discussions between the player and the team period.

I don't believe I ever suggested a player should make a medical decision based on the impatience of fans or media.

What I did say was the player has all the information now so there's no reason not to make a decision so the team can plan accordingly and move on.

 

[cdallan]

I'm sorry, I just don't see the drama here. If Harvin plays through this injury and it turns out to be more serious than the team doctor thinks it is, he is risking a more serious injury that could affect not only his career but his life after football. Don't you think that's worth taking a little time to be sure?

I'm willing to accept this if we're also going to say the team doctors are incompetent and making decisions in the absolute interest of the team and not the player. Usually when you get cleared, you're cleared. You don't fly to New York to seek out a specialist who... given any opportunity to perform surgery... is likely to push for it. However minor.

This is simply not true. Even Tom Terrific at NE risked the wrath of Belichek and sought an independent opinion on his injury. Team medical staffs are good, but they're generalists and there are 32 of them. That's why the players go to world-class specialists, and you see the same 3 or 4 doctors named in these kind of reports.

 

[Cartire]

Man, so much hate and over-reaction today, and we still dont know anything.

They should never have told us he was doing this today. Or maybe that he was getting looked at on like thursday, so that they could know exactly what was happening at 12:01 am on thursday morning and tell us right then so we didnt freak out about not getting the information.

 

[MizzouHawkGal]

That's pretty much were its stood this morning. I suppose we'll know something definitive tomorrow.

 

[theENGLISHseahawk]

I don't care that you have an opposing opinion because your opinion whatever it imay be is yours and you have a perfect right to it. But know that it affects nothing about the situation or myself.

Phew... thanks for pointing that out. For a minute there I thought Pete Carroll and John Schneider were basing all their decisions on the internet chat board postings of a lad from Yorkshire.

Let's hope they still log on despite my own personal setback of this revelation that they don't see my views as the gospel. You never know, you might be able to tell them to "Chillz out manz" if they disagree with you.

 

[Basis4day]

Why should a player make a medical decision that affects his future based on the impatience of the media and the fanbase? That seems like a terrible reason to rush into a major medical decision. The fact that many fans are freaking out about this should have no baring on the decision. Any decision should be made based on discussions between the player and the team period.

I don't believe I ever suggested a player should make a medical decision based on the impatience of fans or media.

What I did say was the player has all the information now so there's no reason not to make a decision so the team can plan accordingly and move on.

Have you considered that since all our information is from leaks perhaps the team told him to sleep on it and not rush to judgement?

 

[AbsolutNET]

Enough with the bickering folks, the rest of us don't care...

 

[Basis4day]

Beats talking about Konz or Tanzania

 

[theENGLISHseahawk]

Have you considered that since all our information is from leaks perhaps the team told him to sleep on it and not rush to judgement?

Very possible.

 

[CANHawk]

Enough with the bickering folks, the rest of us don't care...

word.

 

[Shadowhawk]

I still don't understand this suggestion that he's making anything up.

Florio's not talking in facts. He's suggesting, again....

Ah, but you could say the same thing about the Rice article from last spring. He never stated as fact that Rice would be a cap casualty this year, he just suggested it was a possibility after Harvin was signed. The problem was that he had absolutely nothing to base that suggestion on, and even worse he wrote his piece in such a way that people might believe that he had sources telling him that Rice could be a cap casualty. In this case...

[T]he fact Harvin hasn't just come out and been cleared by this specialist suggests it's not the good news we were hoping for. I think we can all agree that the chances are Harvin won't come out tomorrow and say, "the specialist says I'm good to go". What is more likely is that the specialist has suggested surgery and the team are now talking to Harvin about the options. Otherwise we'd have heard something by now.

... he is doing the same thing by stating that the fact that we haven't heard anything definitive probably means that Harvin will have surgery. The problem is this case goes back to my last post: Harvin will almost certainly have surgery on his hip AT SOME POINT. I can't remember any player with a torn labrum in either his shoulder or hip who didn't eventually have surgery on it. So by Florio saying the delay makes it likely that Harvin will have surgery, he's not really telling us anything. What matters is when Harvin will have the surgery, and whether he can delay it until after the season, and the fact that we haven't heard anything yet doesn't tell us anything about that question. Florio's post leaves people with the impression that it does, which is wrong IMHO.

I get that some people don't much like Florio, but in this instance I find it hard to argue with him. He's called it pretty well for me.

I like Florio fine when he sticks to reporting the actual news. When he gets obsessed over something (such as the "Fail Mary" or the name "Redskins") or pulls something out of thin air like he did today, it's shoddy journalism. We need less of that these days, not more.

 

[CEHawk]

There is a lot of info out there on this type of injury, Fieldgulls has a great write-up on it. If he moves forward with the surgery, which is likely, he will most likely be back around week 7. Not a bad deal to ensure the problem is taken care of and Percy's career isn't in jeopardy. Season ending really isn't in the cards from what I have read.

 

[HawkFan72]

There is a lot of info out there on this type of injury, Fieldgulls has a great write-up on it. If he moves forward with the surgery, which is likely, he will most likely be back around week 7. Not a bad deal to ensure the problem is taken care of and Percy's career isn't in jeopardy. Season ending really isn't in the cards from what I have read.

Yeah it looks like either way he should be able to contribute this year in some capacity, even if it is just coming back at the end of the season and (hopefully) playoffs.

 

[Shadowhawk]

Personally, I hope he has the surgery now and gets it over with, especially if he'd only miss 1-2 months of regular season action. I'd rather go without him for the first part of the season and have him 100% healthy for the stretch run and the playoffs than have him try to play, do further damage to the hip, and lose him for the rest of the year (and possibly put his future career at risk if the injury permanently affects his speed, acceleration, and/or agility.)

 

[Cartire]

Enough with the bickering folks, the rest of us don't care...

word.

God damnit, Ive been craving poutine since yesterday. Im envious of you.

 

[Smelly McUgly]

I am sorry, but this is just speculation on your part, even if it is coming from an exceptionally intelligent person whose work I very much enjoy reading (if theENGLISHseahawk is who I think that he is).

No need to apologise, but I don't see what I'm speculating about really? After all, I'm just agreeing with Florio and suggesting myself this has become a shambles. Which IMO, it has.

Harvin's gone from flying around one minute, to sitting the next. The team doctors say he can play, but then he wants a second opinion. It's taken days to get that second opinion, dragging out the drama even longer. And now everyone is being forced to wait even longer while Percy finally decides what he wants to do.

Harvin is known for drama, and this is another example. Make a decision Percy and get on with it so whatever happens this team can move on.

I'm sorry, I gotcha now. I thought that you were doomsaying BECAUSE of Florio's article, not that you were merely pointing out that you agree.

I disagree, but we'll see who is right soon enough.