Former Colts GM Ryan Grigson lands with Hawks

[Jville]

Here's another viewpoint on Grigson:
complain if you want, but the FO has been pretty astute in getting things done as all sorts of team aroundd the league keep picking up members of the Seahawks FO.

Then why are we letting them go and settling on guys like Ryan Grigson?

LOL Such a perception is so totally off. People move on because of choice. John and Pete don't settle. They are free to pick and chose who they want to include for each campaign. This is America. The land of free will, choice and volunteers.

 

[pittpnthrs]

People getting their panties in a bunch over this is funny.

We hired a former GM in a minor advisory role within the front office.

I think we are just wanting to know the reason why? Minor or not, why would anybody want counsel from a guy who has been downright terrible at decision making and opinions for the past few years? Even the worst team in the league showed him the door.

I'll leave it alone after this. but its a move that makes little to no sense.

 

[Trrrroy]

The outrage over this hire seems a bit excessive. Would anybody get angry if we hired Hue Jackson to be our offensive coordinator? He's been an utter failure as a HC so far. The logic is the same. Some people just do better in lesser roles.

 

[hawknation2018]

People getting their panties in a bunch over this is funny.

We hired a former GM in a minor advisory role within the front office.

I think we are just wanting to know the reason why? Minor or not, why would anybody want counsel from a guy who has been downright terrible at decision making and opinions for the past few years? Even the worst team in the league showed him the door.

I'll leave it alone after this. but its a move that makes little to no sense.

Because he has the rare experience of serving as a GM for six years (in addition to another 13 years as a scout or director), and the position is only a consultant role. Without even having interviewed him, it seems obvious.

That being said, it would be great if they would add another OL specialist to the FO.

 

[pittpnthrs]

Because he has the rare experience of serving as a GM for six years (in addition to another 13 years as a scout or director), and the position is only a consultant role. Without even having interviewed him, it seems obvious.

Whats obvious is how bad he has been for the last 3 to 4 years. Lets disregard that though. He's definitely the guy I want to run ideas past in the teams current state.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Wow man, relax. Why so salty?

 

[ivotuk]

Because he has the rare experience of serving as a GM for six years (in addition to another 13 years as a scout or director), and the position is only a consultant role. Without even having interviewed him, it seems obvious.

Whats obvious is how bad he has been for the last 3 to 4 years. Lets disregard that though. He's definitely the guy I want to run ideas past in the teams current state.

People get fired all the time in the NFL. That's not a useful metric to judge them by.

He did good with the Eagles, and I would discount his getting fired from the Dolts, their owner is a drunk. He kept Chuck Pagano around wayyyyy too long.

And...Cleveland is also not a good metric. When was the last time they made a good decision? Was it when they traded away the pick that turned in to Carson Wentz?

You're basing your opinion off of other people's opinions instead of facts.

Kyle Shanahan was fired as the offensive coach of the Redskins. Were the 49ers stupid to hire him based on that fact?

 

[NJlargent]

I get the optimism because this is a seahawk fan forum, but objectively you can’t possibly be excited about this pickup

 

[Sonichellboy]

I get the optimism because this is a seahawk fan forum, but objectively you can’t possibly be excited about this pickup

On the other side of that coin, I understand the pessimism but no one can really think this move is going to ruin the team, right?

 

[NJlargent]

I get the optimism because this is a seahawk fan forum, but objectively you can’t possibly be excited about this pickup

On the other side of that coin, I understand the pessimism but no one can really think this move is going to ruin the team, right?

I think the move is irrelevant. I am also not going to create optimism over it either because it is not warranted under an objective review.

 

[jeremiah]

It looks to me like his top 4 draft choices every year played a lot a games. Not only is there nothing wrong with that, it shows he is a solid evaluator. The only true way to judge would be on a side by side comparison to others, not by how his team did. Just about all teams suck at winning games without a great QB. That is the case in Indy.

 

[chris98251]

So my team sucks bad and I get the first, first round pick and pick a guy the world says is a savior because hey he's there. I get executive of the year and can't find another pick that can contribute to the team over several years.

Damn, I am awesome and should be given Idol worship level priase because Andrew Luck was available when I picked him.

 

[brimsalabim]

So from that chart it seems as if he made some good choices in 2012 but hasn’t hit a lick since? Sounds like he will fit right in.

 

[TwistedHusky]

We will see how this plays out.

My concern is that someone with a clear track record of being less than productive and having personality issues is now potentially in a position to impact other people in the organization.

What makes this organization successful?

Is it the people or the process?

If it is the people, we are diluting the pool.

If it is the process, maybe there is some value to be extracted here - but it still creates additional problems.

As it is, he is here, we are stuck with him for now. So let's hope he produces some value and does not do too much damage.

But this is not a move that differentiates our organization from other clubs. If anything, it moves our own club closer to the rest of the pack than it already was. I am not sure how bringing in a guy that literally represents some of the groupthink that permeates the league, and defines a middle of the pack producer, is a win. But maybe we needed someone to fill gaps or carry buckets so the guys that make the extraordinary decisions can be freed up to do so.

At least I am hoping that is what it is. But if you ever wanted a sign that the Seahawks aren't going to be that different than the rest of league? This is pretty close to one.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Dang, where's my "glum" pic when I need it? :lol:

 

[Fade]

A scout who worked with Grigson in Philadelphia said Grigson was the worst scout he had ever been around, and cited that he gave Von Miller a 2nd rd grade. He wasn't surprised that he was a train-wreck as a GM.

He is terrible, stop white knighting & damage controlling people. It is pathetic.

Other than maybe taking the tactic of doing the opposite of whatever he says this is a bad hire.

 

[hawknation2018]

A scout who worked with Grigson in Philadelphia said Grigson was the worst scout he had ever been around, and cited that he gave Von Miller a 2nd rd grade. He wasn't surprised that he was a train-wreck as a GM.

He is terrible, stop white knighting & damage controlling people. It is pathetic.

Other than maybe taking the tactic of doing the opposite of whatever he says this is a bad hire.

That's interesting. Do you have a link that might contribute to the conversation?

We are all working with limited information. In general, I don't believe that adding more experience to the front office is a bad thing.

 

[Fade]

A scout who worked with Grigson in Philadelphia said Grigson was the worst scout he had ever been around, and cited that he gave Von Miller a 2nd rd grade. He wasn't surprised that he was a train-wreck as a GM.

He is terrible, stop white knighting & damage controlling people. It is pathetic.

Other than maybe taking the tactic of doing the opposite of whatever he says this is a bad hire.

That's interesting. Do you have a link that might contribute to the conversation?

We are all working with limited information. In general, I don't believe that adding more experience to the front office is a bad thing.

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Grigson comments start at 11:25.

John Middlekauff brings his unique perspective as a former NFL scout, NFL analyst and radio host.

 

[hawknation2018]

A scout who worked with Grigson in Philadelphia said Grigson was the worst scout he had ever been around, and cited that he gave Von Miller a 2nd rd grade. He wasn't surprised that he was a train-wreck as a GM.

He is terrible, stop white knighting & damage controlling people. It is pathetic.

Other than maybe taking the tactic of doing the opposite of whatever he says this is a bad hire.

That's interesting. Do you have a link that might contribute to the conversation?

We are all working with limited information. In general, I don't believe that adding more experience to the front office is a bad thing.

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Grigson comments start at 11:25.

John Middlekauff brings his unique perspective as a former NFL scout, NFL analyst and radio host.

Thanks, appreciate it.

 

[Rat]

Curious hire. He's kind of really awful, and it makes me question the judgment of our front office to give Grigson any kind of role, but that role shouldn't be large enough to take the team down.