RichNhansom":29zxgyo1 said:
This amazes me. The injuries alone this year indicate their is a problem outside the coaching. I love Wilson but his style of play is catastrophic to building and maintaining a solid o-line and will be as long as he continues to hold the ball to long and is forced to scramble all over the back field. When (hopefully not if) Wilson gets better at getting rid of the ball in a normal time frame the line protection will improve. He won't need to scramble around in the back field nearly as much or as long and the injury bug will decrease significantly as well.
I know it is easy to look at the lineman and coaches and say the problem is they are not protecting long enough but you really have to look at what they are being asked to do also and they are being asked to do an absolute ton for a position group.
If Harvin can get and stay healthy we should see an improvement in o-line play simply due to the style of offense he offers. Getting the ball out early and forcing defenses to account for over committing.
I don't truly know how good or bad our line or coach is but I do know they are nit being graded on the same scale as most others in the league by many here.
For the comment about Solari, that is ridiculous. He is working with some of the best o-line talent in the league and Kaep for all his draw backs has been doing a great job of staying in the pocket as long as he can bt even with his O-line he still gets sacked and forced out of the pocket. Solari sucked in Seattle and couldn't develop talent. That has something to do with what he had but it is also a lack of being able to find and develop guys. I would take Cable over solari and day of the week.
Wow, this is a gem. So I suppose it's Wilson's fault that these guys can't run block either? You are acting like the OL's job totally changes with a mobile QB when the only thing they're asked to do is stick with their blocks longer. In the end, it doesn't matter anyway because they haven't been able to consistently give him more than 2 seconds before he HAS to run. Is it also Wilson's fault when he drops back and instantly has interior rushers in his face, or was chased out of the pocket non-stop when Ginger was at LT?
Then your post turns around and tries to make that point that the only reason Solari is good is because of his talent. I submit that, if the talent was better on our OL, there would be better pass pro and better run blocking, so Russell wouldn't feel the need to scramble so often...yeah, genius, I know. What also might help is if we had some larger targets that get open more often, but what can you do.
I will agree that the Cable bashing goes a bit far, but I'm not going to put the blame for poor OL performance on Russell Wilson, no way, no how. If Wilson extends a play with his feet, I don't even consider that in their grading process. Their performance is very poor, even with those plays thrown out of the equation. The fact that Cable does pretty well with bargain basement material is testament to his coaching ability. Cable should share some kudos for how good our D is, because his ability to work with left overs has allowed Pete to focus more resources on D. But the strength of a Cable OL has never been with pass pro and that's what worries me most. I will treat the draft as a hit/miss proposition (Okung Excluded), especially when considering the highest he was allowed to pick was late 1st round during years when most of good OL talent was already off the board.
