Rob Staton: I was wrong about Geno Smith

[Maelstrom787]

You sure were, bud. You sure were.

Too bad he has all the original Geno defenders blocked, so they may not see this.

Props to him for admitting how absurdly incorrect he was, though. A step in the right direction.

 

[Ozzy]

To be fair to Rob Geno looked bad last year, has bounced around the league and beaten out by guys at every stop and has never shown anything remotely close to this good. No one thought he would be anywhere near this successful at this point and that includes the coaching staff. Props to Rob for correcting it because almost no one does in any format whether its religion, politics, sports etc.

It's also still real early. Teams could adjust and Geno could go back to the old Geno. I'm enjoying it while it lasts and hoping for the best.

 

[Maelstrom787]

To be fair to Rob Geno looked bad last year, has bounced around the league and beaten out by guys at every stop and has never shown anything remotely close to this good. No one thought he would be anywhere near this successful at this point and that includes the coaching staff. Props to Rob for correcting it because almost no one does in any format whether its religion, politics, sports etc.

It's also still real early. Teams could adjust and Geno could go back to the old Geno. I'm enjoying it while it lasts and hoping for the best.

The signs were all there, and he blocked the majority of anyone who told him to look closer.

No sympathy. He can hold the L.

Only a few guys out there left who called it pretty correctly for the last few years, like Gee Scott.

 

[Scout]

Geno looked serviceable in relief last year. Not sure where the Geno was bad last year narrative is coming up. I think he has improved a lot since then but in relief I was surprisingly impressed. It actually forced me to watch Geno more closely as a result.

 

[Maelstrom787]

Geno looked serviceable in relief last year. Not sure where the Geno was bad last year narrative is coming up. I think he has improved a lot since then but in relief I was surprisingly impressed. It actually forced me to watch Geno more closely as a result.

Yeah. He improved every single game in relief, and also led the best drive of the season off the bench in the Rams game, when Russ was putrid even before the finger.

And then he was slinging it in the preseason, which people were outright refusing to see. Period. Not even considering it.

No one called MVP level start, but a lot of people called it correctly in that he earned the job and he wasn't getting benched week 6 for Lock like some people thought.

Not to mention the tin foil "they rigged it against Lock crap," which was always insane.

 

[Ozzy]

Ok fair enough I don't think anyone predicted he would be a top 3 quarterback 5 weeks in but maybe I'm wrong?

 

[LeveeBreak]

Geno looked serviceable in relief last year. Not sure where the Geno was bad last year narrative is coming up. I think he has improved a lot since then but in relief I was surprisingly impressed. It actually forced me to watch Geno more closely as a result.

This is where I was at the end of last year. I had doubts about him being more than a serviceable stop-gap to the next QB. Not sure how many Geno threads are needed on the subject, not really my concern. Bottom line is this: If he can keep this going, any hawk fan should be ecstatic, regardless of what thier prior opinions were.

 

[Ozzy]

Yeah. He improved every single game in relief, and also led the best drive of the season off the bench in the Rams game, when Russ was putrid even before the finger.

And then he was slinging it in the preseason, which people were outright refusing to see. Period. Not even considering it.

No one called MVP level start, but a lot of people called it correctly in that he earned the job and he wasn't getting benched week 6 for Lock like some people thought.

Not to mention the tin foil "they rigged it against Lock crap," which was always insane.

You predicted all the signs were there to be a top 3 QB in the league? I have a hard time believing that but props if its true. I saw people thinking he could be good enough or serviceable but I think he's surprised all of us.

 

[BASF]

To be fair to Rob Geno looked bad last year, has bounced around the league and beaten out by guys at every stop and has never shown anything remotely close to this good.

Yes, because Geno had the opportunity to beat out Eli Manning (I believe will get a gold jacket from the veteran's commitee as he is top ten in a few categories) Phillip Rivers (definite HoF) and Russell Wilson (who more than likely is HoF, but perception of him is dropping fast). He did not lose a competition to start for the Jets in 2015. He lost the starting job to being sucker punched (deserved though it may have been). He has lost exactly one QB competition in 2016 for the Jets.

 

[CallMeADawg]

Good on Rob for the mea culpa.

 

[CouchLogic]

Shoot, I thought Geno was going to be bad. He'd just didn't look to be anything more than a backup, damn glad to be wrong about that (for his sake). He seems like a genuine dude, so it's nice to see him rise above everything in his path. It shows he put in the work and is taking advantage of all the opportunities afford to him (how always compete SHOULD be).

 

[ivotuk]

I was hopefully optimistic. I've always been a fan of his (both last name of Smith, which is rare!), and I thought he did a good job last year in relief, considering he had little to no starting reps in practice, and he was not familiar with his receivers.

Still, he had a 68.4% completion, with 5 TDs and 1 INT. I was extremely impressed with his Press Conferences, they blew me away last year. He didn't sound like that earlier in his career, and I believe he has matured since then. I couldn't be happier for him.

As for as Rob Staton goes, love the guy, and respect the work he puts in, but he's been so negative the last 2 years that I quit listening or going to his site. Everything the Seahawks did was bad, and they were going to be at the bottom of the league.

I think if Rob became more positive, pointing out the good and the bad, he'd be a much better journalist. But I'm not going to listen to Gloom and Doom. See enough of that on here.

I've gotten very selective about who's posts I read. The poor posts have taught me one thing though, to be a better poster myself, and to treat other posters opinons with respect, even if I strongly disagree. I think I've learned to have a conversation with them, as opposed to trying to trash their post, as I used to do. I see others on here doing the same thing.

Makes for an actual conversation, as opposed to a Billboard sign stating one's opinion.

 

[Maelstrom787]

You predicted all the signs were there to be a top 3 QB in the league? I have a hard time believing that but props if its true. I saw people thinking he could be good enough or serviceable but I think he's surprised all of us.

You're being very dishonest in how you're attempting to reframe my comments, bud.

Directly from the reply of mine you quoted:

"No one called MVP level start, but a lot of people called it correctly in that he earned the job and he wasn't getting benched week 6 for Lock like some people thought."

 

[BlueTalon]

To be fair to Rob Geno looked bad last year, has bounced around the league and beaten out by guys at every stop and has never shown anything remotely close to this good. No one thought he would be anywhere near this successful at this point and that includes the coaching staff.

The coaching staff was telling us, early and consistently, that Geno was doing well. Personally, I took it all with a grain of salt since there's a lot of that kind of talk during training camp and preseason.

Regarding Geno's time in the rest of the league, I believe this year represents the first time since the Jets that Geno has had a legitimate shot at the starting job in an open competition that he could win on his merits.

 

[Own The West]

It’s nice to see Stanton giving credit where credit is due. That said, we’ll see where Geno is at the end of the season.

My guess is he’ll fall back to the middle of the pack — which is just fine. I fully expect us to draft a young guy to push him. Geno’s 32, so I don’t think our FO is going to stop looking for his replacement. If Geno wants to test the FA market it may be sooner than later too.

 

[Ozzy]

You're being very dishonest in how you're attempting to reframe my comments, bud.

Directly from the reply of mine you quoted:

"No one called MVP level start, but a lot of people called it correctly in that he earned the job and he wasn't getting benched week 6 for Lock like some people thought."

But you keep arguing with me when I say no one expected this so while your words may differ your actions seem to say otherwise. No worries we just disagree on this and can move on. His success has been a surprise to me and to most people and I think its somewhat at least, warranted. If others sort of saw this coming like yourself then props to you. I didn't.

 

[Ozzy]

I was hopefully optimistic. I've always been a fan of his (both last name of Smith, which is rare!), and I thought he did a good job last year in relief, considering he had little to no starting reps in practice, and he was not familiar with his receivers.

Still, he had a 68.4% completion, with 5 TDs and 1 INT. I was extremely impressed with his Press Conferences, they blew me away last year. He didn't sound like that earlier in his career, and I believe he has matured since then. I couldn't be happier for him.

As for as Rob Staton goes, love the guy, and respect the work he puts in, but he's been so negative the last 2 years that I quit listening or going to his site. Everything the Seahawks did was bad, and they were going to be at the bottom of the league.

I think if Rob became more positive, pointing out the good and the bad, he'd be a much better journalist. But I'm not going to listen to Gloom and Doom. See enough of that on here.

I've gotten very selective about who's posts I read. The poor posts have taught me one thing though, to be a better poster myself, and to treat other posters opinons with respect, even if I strongly disagree. I think I've learned to have a conversation with them, as opposed to trying to trash their post, as I used to do. I see others on here doing the same thing.

Makes for an actual conversation, as opposed to a Billboard sign stating one's opinion.

Good post. I personally like Rob and think we're pretty spoiled to have him cover out team. He has done a great job with the draft stuff. I have seem him get a little more negative for sure. I sort of get it he gets a ton of hate mail or shitty responses and I think he gets tired of it but ultimately if he learned to ignore stuff he would probably be more respectful in his exchanges. But I agree we all need to do better at times, myself included.

 

[jammerhawk]

Lots of folks were wrong about Geno, but he has done an excellent job of proving he is capable of playing well, his detractors have been shown to not know much but are at least slowly admitting they were wrong.

I was wrong about him and have already eaten my crow. I hope he just keeps it up to make his value high and he gets his payday. For the team it’s all positive, and if he gets away in FA it will be for a quality Comp pick. I’d want to try to keep him as with him we know the position is capably staffed and then adding a good young player to develop, makes for a brighter future.

Most of us thought the O would suck this season and the D wouldn’t, but we were wrong on that too. Geno being kept would allow an early pick to spent on improving the D.

 

[Maelstrom787]

But you keep arguing with me when I say no one expected this so while your words may differ your actions seem to say otherwise. No worries we just disagree on this and can move on. His success has been a surprise to me and to most people and I think its somewhat at least, warranted. If others sort of saw this coming like yourself then props to you. I didn't.

There's a difference between "I didn't expect him to be this good" and "I very loudly believed Geno Smith was the worst quarterback alive, would lose his job to Drew Lock, and spent the entire off-season deliberately clowning those who were bringing up film-supported defenses of Geno's play."

 

[Ozzy]

Alright, that wasn't me but ok.