Bobby says Russ tried to recruit him to Denver 1 week before trade

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Pete & John did their due diligence when they scouted & then Drafted Russ...His durability wasn't an issue in the early years there, Pete & John would be absolute fools to NOT try and find someone to take Wilsons' place in the line-up if he'd gotten hurt, now would they not?
Some of y'all act like Pete & John HATED RW and that's just over the top silly to me.
Pete & John ARE ON THE HOOK for keeping ALL their options open for the betterment of the team, and THAT is how you get & stay on top...Sounds like Wilson didn't really want to "Always Compete"
To tither around with every other aspect of the team, but 'Hands-Off' at the Quarterback position? I don't think that that's how it's done in the NFL.
Another Example: Aaron Rodgers got p*ssed & worked up when the Packers Drafted Love....It didn't mean that they were disrespecting Aaron, it's just how the NFL rolls...Does anyone actually believe that they were disrespecting Favre when they brought in Rodgers? LOL Maybe that's why he went to play for the Vikings??
But Pete didn't have the balls to bring in real competition at QB position. NE did that when they had Brady the GOAT, and they benefited by trading Jimmy G for picks. I always wonder over the years why didn't we do that? John seems to have good eyes for QBs,
 

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This what? If you'd asked me doe a year ago if i'd intended to break off my wedding engagement, I would have said no, absolutely not.. if you'd asked me a month before said engagement was broken, I'd still have said no, absolutley not. But there are two sides. Two intentions. And if a bridge can't be built to mend ties, it doesn't matter what one party intends or not. Eventually, not intending to, will become ' ok, let's do it' .

To try to spin PC as the villain in this is nuts. But for many in the league and in our fanbase the dude, despite all the great he's done for the team, the city, still has to fight through the perception of being deceptive, or disloyal, going back to his very announcement as HC. He came here with a target on his back from USC... he lies, he's carried by his assistants, he can't be trusted, etc etc etc.

Bobby's feelings got involved. His emotions clouded his professional judgement. There are emotions on both sides, but when you're an executive in charge of running a franchise, fielding a winner, and balancing the books, emotions are set aside. John conducted himself the way he should have. Both sides knew it was 'business'. Bobby, the agent, should have, without emotion, represented his client. He couldn't. There's no 'wrong' here. It's just unfortunate.

Re Russ... Russ is who he's been rumored to be. He will smile and say and do whatever is 'right' for the camera. That's fine. But i take issue with the way he handled last season and his dishonesty in saying he had no idea he was being traded. He initiated the conversation. He knew about it. He wanted Denver, recruited teammates to go with him well before the trade... and then looked into the camera and said he had no idea until the FO told him he was being moved... like the day before?

That's not a leopard. That's a chameleon. Change your look entirely to benefit yourself in whatever environment you are in.

Wish Bobby was here for half the money he had.

Let Denver deal with Russ.

One thing I know is there likely won't be a Russel Wilson interview where he's as honest about what really went down, the way Bobby just did. Two great players, both. One great Seahawk.
Let me help you when someone right this and uses an upward arrow that means he agrees with the post he quoted. As to the rest of your post opinions vary yours could be right or wrong.
 

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Marshawn 'The Beast' Lynch was also a "Key Piece", as well as that all world Defense featuring the 'LOB'.
There were NUMEROUS "Key Pieces", it wasn't just Wilson there all by his lonesome who sealed that SB Trophy.
AND, had the LOB not been injured while going against the Patriots the following SB, they'd very likely hold Brady from making that 10-point comeback, & maybe would have secured that 2nd Lombardi.
He did not say the only key piece he simply said a key piece.
 

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Pete & John did their due diligence when they scouted & then Drafted Russ...His durability wasn't an issue in the early years there, Pete & John would be absolute fools to NOT try and find someone to take Wilsons' place in the line-up if he'd gotten hurt, now would they not?
Some of y'all act like Pete & John HATED RW and that's just over the top silly to me.
Pete & John ARE ON THE HOOK for keeping ALL their options open for the betterment of the team, and THAT is how you get & stay on top...Sounds like Wilson didn't really want to "Always Compete"
To tither around with every other aspect of the team, but 'Hands-Off' at the Quarterback position? I don't think that that's how it's done in the NFL.
Another Example: Aaron Rodgers got p*ssed & worked up when the Packers Drafted Love....It didn't mean that they were disrespecting Aaron, it's just how the NFL rolls...Does anyone actually believe that they were disrespecting Favre when they brought in Rodgers? LOL Maybe that's why he went to play for the Vikings??
Thats an opinion, perhaps right probably wrong.
 

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Let me help you when someone right this and uses an upward arrow that means he agrees with the post he quoted. As to the rest of your post opinions vary yours could be right or wrong.
I was clear, John. But as always, thanks for your consistency and 'help'.
 

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This what? If you'd asked me doe a year ago if i'd intended to break off my wedding engagement, I would have said no, absolutely not.. if you'd asked me a month before said engagement was broken, I'd still have said no, absolutley not. But there are two sides. Two intentions. And if a bridge can't be built to mend ties, it doesn't matter what one party intends or not. Eventually, not intending to, will become ' ok, let's do it' .

To try to spin PC as the villain in this is nuts. But for many in the league and in our fanbase the dude, despite all the great he's done for the team, the city, still has to fight through the perception of being deceptive, or disloyal, going back to his very announcement as HC. He came here with a target on his back from USC... he lies, he's carried by his assistants, he can't be trusted, etc etc etc.

Bobby's feelings got involved. His emotions clouded his professional judgement. There are emotions on both sides, but when you're an executive in charge of running a franchise, fielding a winner, and balancing the books, emotions are set aside. John conducted himself the way he should have. Both sides knew it was 'business'. Bobby, the agent, should have, without emotion, represented his client. He couldn't. There's no 'wrong' here. It's just unfortunate.

Re Russ... Russ is who he's been rumored to be. He will smile and say and do whatever is 'right' for the camera. That's fine. But i take issue with the way he handled last season and his dishonesty in saying he had no idea he was being traded. He initiated the conversation. He knew about it. He wanted Denver, recruited teammates to go with him well before the trade... and then looked into the camera and said he had no idea until the FO told him he was being moved... like the day before?

That's not a leopard. That's a chameleon. Change your look entirely to benefit yourself in whatever environment you are in.

Wish Bobby was here for half the money he had.

Let Denver deal with Russ.

One thing I know is there likely won't be a Russel Wilson interview where he's as honest about what really went down, the way Bobby just did. Two great players, both. One great Seahawk.
This ^
 

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Let me help you when someone right this and uses an upward arrow that means he agrees with the post he quoted. As to the rest of your post opinions vary yours could be right or wrong.
And only YOUR OPINIONS are right? Guess again John.
 

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Let me help you when someone right this and uses an upward arrow that means he agrees with the post he quoted. As to the rest of your post opinions vary yours could be right or wrong.
It's a lazy, sad post-padding nonsense reply that wouldn't have been tolerated before because it adds nothing to the conversation.

Also, write*. Not "right." Furthermore, it would be writes* in this scenario.

You can agree and still add to the topic rather than just HAHA THIS THIS THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^. How about the like button, hmm?
 

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Marshawn 'The Beast' Lynch was also a "Key Piece", as well as that all world Defense featuring the 'LOB'.
There were NUMEROUS "Key Pieces", it wasn't just Wilson there all by his lonesome who sealed that SB Trophy.
AND, had the LOB not been injured while going against the Patriots the following SB, they'd very likely hold Brady from making that 10-point comeback, & maybe would have secured that 2nd Lombardi.
I admire your restraint in finishing that last sentence without the "that Wilson threw away" that would have been absolutely accurate. Carroll gave Wilson the chance to be the hero on the biggest stage and Wilson failed.

As far as the foreknowledge and recruiting, of course both of them knew what was going to happen and discussed it. This is ultimately a business and both knew that it was good business for the Seahawks to move on from them.
 

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But Pete didn't have the balls to bring in real competition at QB position. NE did that when they had Brady the GOAT, and they benefited by trading Jimmy G for picks. I always wonder over the years why didn't we do that? John seems to have good eyes for QBs,
Like I said though, for the first few years, Pete
But Pete didn't have the balls to bring in real competition at QB position. NE did that when they had Brady the GOAT, and they benefited by trading Jimmy G for picks. I always wonder over the years why didn't we do that? John seems to have good eyes for QBs,
"Didn't have the balls"? okay then, WHO did YOU have in mind that would have had the chops, to come in and challenge Russell 'The Franchise Quarterback' Wilson for the leadership roll there???
The fact that Pete & John were even testing the waters on Mahomes & the like p*ssed Wilson off enough to want to bail on the Seahawks, right? LOLOL
Basically what I'm saying is, that I don't hate Wilson for looking out for his own best interests, just as I don't hate Pete Carroll for "looking out for the best interest" of our Seattle Seahawks, eh?
 
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And once AGAIN John, it's every bit as >>VALID & CORRECT<< as YOUR ONE SIDED & Biased "OPINION", AGAINST PETE CARROLL eh?? The sword of truth cuts BOTH WAYS.
And I said "Thats an opinion, perhaps right probably wrong." notice the part where I said could be right and noplace did I say is wrong or definitely wrong.

Let me help yo

I said could be right it could be
I also said probably wrong that is my opinion.

you are correct the truth doe scut both ways which is why I said he could be right.
 

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And I said "Thats an opinion, perhaps right probably wrong." notice the part where I said could be right and noplace did I say is wrong or definitely wrong.

Let me help yo

I said could be right it could be
I also said probably wrong that is my opinion.

you are correct the truth doe scut both ways which is why I said he could be right.

Do you mean as opposed to the year before where they were looking to trade him, or several years earlier when it got leaked they were looking to trade him? Wilson more than likely after being told they were looking to trade him several times said fine I dont want to but if you're going to try to trade me, here is where I will go. To me this was a tit for tat between PC and Wilson.
Going back to this post about a supposed "LEAK that they were looking to trade him", do you have VERIFICATION of this actually happening, or is this your way of covering for your ongoing defensive stance on Wilson?
Hey look, IF you have something let's see it, otherwise, it's purely speculation or hear-say & likely didn't happen.
 
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