WR Jermaine Kearse re-signs with Seahawks 3yrs/13.5m

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HawkGA":343ewqrf said:
I'm happy for Kearse, but I'm not really a fan of the deal. To me it's not an overpay/underpay thing so much as we simply have other areas of need and we actually have okay depth at the WR position. I'd like to see a Baldwin extension and go into the season with Baldwin, Lockett, and then good ol' competition for the rest of the WR slots. To me it feels like Kearse is more of a luxury and I'm not sure the team can afford that luxury.

Bingo.
 

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A year ago, I would have been annoyed by this, even after the clutch plays. But in 2015, Kearse really found himself a nice niche as a short-yardage option in Bevell's new system. You need one of those guys for the spread to really work.

I don't think a few games of production will force Pete to change his philosophy

He changed his philosophy for an entire nine games last year, and the results were hard to argue with.

And given the loss of continuity on the OL with Sweezy and maybe Okung walking away), you can bet that Pete won't be relying on pass protection this year either. He'll need a quick-flashing option for Wilson, and Kearse is just that.

Now we need to make sure he doesn't let off the gas now that he has a contract.
 

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Kearses deal Will end when Locketts contract comes up and that is when we no longer can afford him. Now we are good. They will find a way to extend Baldwin.
 

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I think we overpaid a bit. I don't think anyone else had interest in him, and this was probably the weakest WR free agent class ever
 

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http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/seattle-seah ... ne-kearse/

First year is guaranteed, but it basically amounts to a two year contract with lower cap hit in year's one and two (2.5 and 4.0 respectively). I doubt he sees that third year salary.

As far as Okung goes, we still have about $7 million in cap remaining now and $12 million going into the season (Top 51). A percentage of that will go towards rookies, but there is still enough there to squeeze Okung in if they want. But I don't think they want to at what he will get.
 

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I am glad to see this. Kearse is clutch. We don't need fancy receivers.
 

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McGruff":1ttwnpcb said:
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/seattle-seahawks/jermaine-kearse/

First year is guaranteed, but it basically amounts to a two year contract with lower cap hit in year's one and two (2.5 and 4.0 respectively). I doubt he sees that third year salary.

As far as Okung goes, we still have about $7 million in cap remaining now and $12 million going into the season (Top 51). A percentage of that will go towards rookies, but there is still enough there to squeeze Okung in if they want. But I don't think they want to at what he will get.


I like it a little better after seeing the numbers. Still not a huge fan of it but don't absolutely hate it either.
 

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This signing amounted to the Hawks offering him this lowball deal two weeks ago, Jermaine thinking he was going to get more in free agency, getting ignored completely and coming back.

Which is fine with me, Kearse has great chemistry with Russell, has made some clutch catches for us and is a model teammate...........and the contract is small.
 

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I think people underestimate Kearse's skill run blocking

PC does not (he may overestimate but for his scheme kind of important)
 

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I think everyone needs to keep it Kearse's contract in perspective. (Expounding on what Mcgruff said above)

Year Cap Hit
2015 (This year) $2,356,000
2016 $2,633,333
2017 $4,033,333
2018 $6,833,334

Kearse is getting a raise to stay as he should going into his second contract. This deal is SUPER team friendly. That cap hit is 1.7% of total cap this year. Plus, we can save $5mil if we cut him before the 2018 season. His contract ends the same year as Lockett's rookie deal and if the kid keeps playing like he is, he'll be getting big money once Kearse is off the books.

Also, ADB's going to make $4mil this year with a $5.6mil cap hit. It's not a big slight against him in any way. In fact, when Baldwin signed his 3 year deal, he accounted for 2.2% of the cap that year. He's always been more "valued" to the team. That being said, he's going to make a lot more money next year. Like Marvin Jones money. But that's another thread.
 

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I'm fine with the signing. At least Russ and Kearse are familiar with each other. Also, I have zero confidence in Richardson and the others behind him.
 

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We had the best receiving core I've ever seen for the Seattle Seahawks in my lifetime last year.

Your young arent you?
 

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When you see that Chris Hogan just got a $4M APY and front-loaded deal from the Patriots, I don't see how you can consider Kearse's deal an overpay. The market is out of whack, and Seattle still got pretty decent terms.
 

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Tech Worlds":9g7o0dox said:
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A year ago, I would have been annoyed by this, even after the clutch plays. But in 2015, Kearse really found himself a nice niche as a short-yardage option in Bevell's new system. You need one of those guys for the spread to really work.
People keep talking about this spread.

I have no confidence that we are going to suddenly do it and damn the power running game that Pete loves. He loves physical football, the spread isn't that. I don't think a few games of production will force Pete to change his philosophy. When we couldn't run the ball with Tavaris a few years ago he went shot gun, hurry up. That worked well but he didn't stick with it.

I just need to see more before I think this team is suddenly different in philosophy than the smash mouth running team we have had.

We're not going to morph into the 2008 Patriots or 2013 Broncos - but we're not going to only allow Wilson to throw it 20 times a game either.

Marshawn Lynch was a rare talent in that he actually got stronger the longer the game went on. I love Thomas Rawls, but I don't think he's that type of workhorse back. Conversely, the offense really took off when it ran through Wilson with Rawls adding a lethal dose of yards behind him.

So yeah, having 3 WR's you can count on is important.. especially when Richardson and Graham are recovering from season ending injuries.. and in the case of Graham, an injury that is a very difficult one to come back from 100%.

Factor in the things you can't chart with statistics.. his clutch gene, his ability to get open when Russell is scrambling for his life.. the trust and chemistry he has with Russell... his ability to block.. the fact he's LOVED in the locker room by his teammates.. and it's a no brainer to me why they brought him back.
 

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Hasselbeck":2ixhmi1t said:
Tech Worlds":2ixhmi1t said:
MontanaHawk05":2ixhmi1t said:
A year ago, I would have been annoyed by this, even after the clutch plays. But in 2015, Kearse really found himself a nice niche as a short-yardage option in Bevell's new system. You need one of those guys for the spread to really work.
People keep talking about this spread.

I have no confidence that we are going to suddenly do it and damn the power running game that Pete loves. He loves physical football, the spread isn't that. I don't think a few games of production will force Pete to change his philosophy. When we couldn't run the ball with Tavaris a few years ago he went shot gun, hurry up. That worked well but he didn't stick with it.

I just need to see more before I think this team is suddenly different in philosophy than the smash mouth running team we have had.

We're not going to morph into the 2008 Patriots or 2013 Broncos - but we're not going to only allow Wilson to throw it 20 times a game either.

Marshawn Lynch was a rare talent in that he actually got stronger the longer the game went on. I love Thomas Rawls, but I don't think he's that type of workhorse back. Conversely, the offense really took off when it ran through Wilson with Rawls adding a lethal dose of yards behind him.

So yeah, having 3 WR's you can count on is important.. especially when Richardson and Graham are recovering from season ending injuries.. and in the case of Graham, an injury that is a very difficult one to come back from 100%.

Factor in the things you can't chart with statistics.. his clutch gene, his ability to get open when Russell is scrambling for his life.. the trust and chemistry he has with Russell... his ability to block.. the fact he's LOVED in the locker room by his teammates.. and it's a no brainer to me why they brought him back.

He's like the anti-Harvin in every regard.
 

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I like Kearse,
The dude has performed at high level and competed all the way from the practice squad to get to this position.
Well done!
 

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Hasselbeck":165q2g1h said:
austinslater25":165q2g1h said:
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Fade":165q2g1h said:
QB's make the receivers, besides Richardson is a 2nd round pick. This tacitly admits Richardson is a bust because he is hardly ever going to see the field as a 4th WR. Unless you want to bench Kearse.

No?

We're heading to a spread type offense .. I guess I missed the rule that having a really good 4th string WR is frowned upon in such a situation.
It's not that, it's that you have HUGE holes in the line and paying possibly your 4th/5th option in the passing game over 4 million dollars doesn't make sense.

Ok.. so name some QUALITY linemen we can sign for 3/13.5M

In case you missed it ... average linemen are getting paid out the backside right now.

Huh. For all the people that said they don't like it because the money should have gone to the OL instead, not a single person responded to this post.
 

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Well I love Hasselbeck but it's not unanswerable. Some of that money could go towards a lineman. You don't necessarily have to trade contracts straight across. I like Okung especially with so many other moving pieces on the line so if that money could of gone towards resigning Okung then that's a debate worth having.
 
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