Woolen, How Much

[chris98251]

Well day one gone. salaries drop pretty drastically and then again in day three. You have to be really special to hold out and get the money after that, I don't see that in Woolen due to his lack of focus and need to taunt. Defensive coaches hate that shit, and there are a lot of defensive coaches in the league, also he was benched as well, and I am sure that is being looked at. 20 Million a year for a possible head case?

 

[TwistedHusky]

Despite the mistakes, still one of our best cover guys.
In fact, in the game he got that taunting call (which was still ridiculous considering how much taunting the RAMS were doing...) - he made several key plays after that call that kept the Rams from coming back.

We are better with him than without him. But great cover corners are EXPENSIVE. My hope is that great cover corners that make boneheaded plays occasionally after the play...are cheaper.
Keeping him would be amazing. Likely not possible, but still.

I am butthurt about losing Bryant though. But somehow keeping Woolen after all this would lessen the sting.

 

[keasley45]

Despite the mistakes, still one of our best cover guys.
In fact, in the game he got that taunting call (which was still ridiculous considering how much taunting the RAMS were doing...) - he made several key plays after that call that kept the Rams from coming back.

We are better with him than without him. But great cover corners are EXPENSIVE. My hope is that great cover corners that make boneheaded plays occasionally after the play...are cheaper.
Keeping him would be amazing. Likely not possible, but still.

I am butthurt about losing Bryant though. But somehow keeping Woolen after all this would lessen the sting.

Agree

 

[chris98251]

Despite the mistakes, still one of our best cover guys.
In fact, in the game he got that taunting call (which was still ridiculous considering how much taunting the RAMS were doing...) - he made several key plays after that call that kept the Rams from coming back.

We are better with him than without him. But great cover corners are EXPENSIVE. My hope is that great cover corners that make boneheaded plays occasionally after the play...are cheaper.
Keeping him would be amazing. Likely not possible, but still.

I am butthurt about losing Bryant though. But somehow keeping Woolen after all this would lessen the sting.

You talk shit if you back it up consistently and I am ok with it, Woolen seemed to talk shit and then go out and have his ass handed to him is my issue with his play most the time.

 

[rjas77]

Despite the mistakes, still one of our best cover guys.
In fact, in the game he got that taunting call (which was still ridiculous considering how much taunting the RAMS were doing...) - he made several key plays after that call that kept the Rams from coming back.

We are better with him than without him. But great cover corners are EXPENSIVE. My hope is that great cover corners that make boneheaded plays occasionally after the play...are cheaper.
Keeping him would be amazing. Likely not possible, but still.

I am butthurt about losing Bryant though. But somehow keeping Woolen after all this would lessen the sting.

Fair points..but after that taunting penalty in the NFCCG he gave up a TD the next play.

Then it took the Rookie Emmanwori to get in his face. In the end we won, but we would have coasted to the Super Bowl without the penalty.

Then he gave up the first TD in the Superbowl.

Is he better (all things considered) then 10M/yr. In my opinion no…and this is his contract year.

He should not be on the roster next year

 

[Mike D in 332]

So why would the Seahawks want HIM back then?

That could've cost us the friggin' SuperBowl.

I'd rather not have him have another boneheaded moment that ends up actually costing us next season.

Let him be someone else's problem.

I disagree, but this is such a legitimate point of view that it’s hard for me to argue at all

 

[Mike D in 332]

Woolen is definitely one of those "wait and see" types of decisions. If someone is dumb enough to offer him a $20M/year contract, then let him walk. Make him come back to us on his knees begging. Otherwise, don't let the door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya.

Without the vitreal, that’s what I’m talking about. There’s a situation where the market won’t pay him or we will and he knows that he’ll be successful with us. right?

 

[ivotuk]

Less than Jobe, who outplayed him and had zero taunting penalties to Riqs 3, 1 of which almost lost us the NFCCG & the Superbowl.

 

[glenwo2]

I disagree, but this is such a legitimate point of view that it’s hard for me to argue at all

You disagree that the taunting penalty could've cost us the Superbowl?

If Darnold wasn't balling out in that game, Woolen's antics would've crushed the Hawks hopes and dreams.

And Woolen would've been chased out of Seattle by all the fans with actual Pitchforks in their hands.

I get that he can be had if he comes back for the league minimum or something like that but there comes a point where it's addition by subtraction when you don't bring back someone who hurts the team moreso than he helps it.

 

[Floridahawk79]

Mike is done with him.

 

[Tusc2000]

I think his boneheaded unsportsmanlike penalty in the NFCCG may be affecting his offers.

THIS. I wouldn't take Riq back for any price. Time to move on.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

He was already on my sh** list, then he pulled that SELFISH crap in the NFC Championship. Nope. Good player when he's actually focused, but HELL NO. He put himself in front of the team and if it wasn't for Spoon bailing his a** out, we don't even make the SB.

 

[Natethegreat]

Despite the mistakes, still one of our best cover guys.
In fact, in the game he got that taunting call (which was still ridiculous considering how much taunting the RAMS were doing...) - he made several key plays after that call that kept the Rams from coming back.

We are better with him than without him. But great cover corners are EXPENSIVE. My hope is that great cover corners that make boneheaded plays occasionally after the play...are cheaper.
Keeping him would be amazing. Likely not possible, but still.

I am butthurt about losing Bryant though. But somehow keeping Woolen after all this would lessen the sting.

Reek gave up a TD after his penalty.

 

[Trackhawk]

A reasonable contract for the Hawks to take on would be in the 3-year, 8-10 million AAV range. I'm sure he has pipe dream of 18-20. I'm happy to let him test the market, and if someone else wants to pay him that, then good riddance. Sometimes the realization that you didn't just cost your team, you cost yourself 20-30 million dollars is enough to finally jar some sense into a bonehead.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

So he can get even more lazy?

 

[Sperrydogg]

Ok. We just signed Jobe for $8 million APY. McDuffie is getting over $30 million.
Woolen has not signed. How much would you be willing to pay him to come back? Would take him back at a reasonable salary, say 10-12 million APY? Would you not sign him no matter what?
Personally, anything under 12 million APY 3 years with 20 million or less guaranteed and I say get it done right now. Also, no guarantees beyond year two for me.

How could he get more than jobe

 

[Ozzy]

I personally think they've moved on as well because he's just a headache for a coach like Macdonald but its possible if the cost came way down they would bring him back.

When the ref was telling Mike he would get him the number of the guy who had a personal foul and Mike saying "I already know" sort of told me everything I need to know about how Mike views Woolen lol.

 

[Mistashoesta]

He posted this on X 30 mins ago..

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Do the dots represent how many times he's gonna' taunt the opponent and cost his team in 2026?

 

[Ostatehawk]

You disagree that the taunting penalty could've cost us the Superbowl?

If Darnold wasn't balling out in that game, Woolen's antics would've crushed the Hawks hopes and dreams.

And Woolen would've been chased out of Seattle by all the fans with actual Pitchforks in their hands.

I get that he can be had if he comes back for the league minimum or something like that but there comes a point where it's addition by subtraction when you don't bring back someone who hurts the team moreso than he helps it.

I am guessing that the percentage of Seattle area residents that own a pitch fork is relatively small. Now - torches...........

Not to threadjack - obviously.