jammerhawk":dx37366r said:Was unsure why he dropped to to #49, but believe he was very good value at that pick.
He's going to make us all happy with how he can control the interior DLine. I'd bet he's also possibly a lot better as a pass rusher than he was given credit for being by some draft 'experts'.
Krieg's list":ho63fw3v said:I'm sorry, but this was a very poor article. In fact, it actually managed to dampen my enthusiasm over this pick.
The first half of the article can be summarized as "Jarran Reed is a steal because lots of people not actually drafting for NFL teams thought he was really good and he was mocked much higher than SEA selected him and I think he's a total stud." Which is obviously ridiculous reasoning... except, apparently, when it's what you want to hear. :roll:
It goes on to show a few clips of Reed doing nothing particularly impressive, holding his position against single blocks (with no push) and making a tackle when the play comes right at him. This in itself isn't as worrisome as the fact the author handpicked these clips, implying they are at the very least typical-- or even worse, exceptional-- plays for Reed.
The second half of the article suddenly tries to bolster the "steal of the draft" claim by asserting that DT is a critical, underrated part of the Seattle defense, and clips are provided from a game that Mebane missed against KC where Charles tore up the SEA defense. Of course, both clips are clearly Malcolm Smith's responsibility (Wagner was also out), and in fact the DTs got good playside push in the first clip.
By far the best part of the post were the 2 comments by "jacobstevens", who offers better analysis and much more realistic expectations for Reed's performance in the NFL.
I understand people wanting to get excited about anything Seahawks, but praising a deeply flawed article because it tells you what you want to hear is lazy and irresponsible. And then these same people freak out all over these boards when SEA struggles, because in their minds they had overhyped the level of talent on the Hawks and fail to understand how razor-thin the talent discrepancy between NFL teams actually is.
Krieg's list":28m2ujv1 said:I'm sorry, but this was a very poor article. In fact, it actually managed to dampen my enthusiasm over this pick.
The first half of the article can be summarized as "Jarran Reed is a steal because lots of people not actually drafting for NFL teams thought he was really good and he was mocked much higher than SEA selected him and I think he's a total stud." Which is obviously ridiculous reasoning... except, apparently, when it's what you want to hear. :roll:
It goes on to show a few clips of Reed doing nothing particularly impressive, holding his position against single blocks (with no push) and making a tackle when the play comes right at him. This in itself isn't as worrisome as the fact the author handpicked these clips, implying they are at the very least typical-- or even worse, exceptional-- plays for Reed.
The second half of the article suddenly tries to bolster the "steal of the draft" claim by asserting that DT is a critical, underrated part of the Seattle defense, and clips are provided from a game that Mebane missed against KC where Charles tore up the SEA defense. Of course, both clips are clearly Malcolm Smith's responsibility (Wagner was also out), and in fact the DTs got good playside push in the first clip.
By far the best part of the post were the 2 comments by "jacobstevens", who offers better analysis and much more realistic expectations for Reed's performance in the NFL.
I understand people wanting to get excited about anything Seahawks, but praising a deeply flawed article because it tells you what you want to hear is lazy and irresponsible. And then these same people freak out all over these boards when SEA struggles, because in their minds they had overhyped the level of talent on the Hawks and fail to understand how razor-thin the talent discrepancy between NFL teams actually is.
Mistashoesta":229rf86o said:Jordan Hill, is that you!?
Krieg's list":3p6r69au said:I'm sorry, but this was a very poor article. In fact, it actually managed to dampen my enthusiasm over this pick.
The first half of the article can be summarized as "Jarran Reed is a steal because lots of people not actually drafting for NFL teams thought he was really good and he was mocked much higher than SEA selected him and I think he's a total stud." Which is obviously ridiculous reasoning... except, apparently, when it's what you want to hear. :roll:
It goes on to show a few clips of Reed doing nothing particularly impressive, holding his position against single blocks (with no push) and making a tackle when the play comes right at him. This in itself isn't as worrisome as the fact the author handpicked these clips, implying they are at the very least typical-- or even worse, exceptional-- plays for Reed.
The second half of the article suddenly tries to bolster the "steal of the draft" claim by asserting that DT is a critical, underrated part of the Seattle defense, and clips are provided from a game that Mebane missed against KC where Charles tore up the SEA defense. Of course, both clips are clearly Malcolm Smith's responsibility (Wagner was also out), and in fact the DTs got good playside push in the first clip.
By far the best part of the post were the 2 comments by "jacobstevens", who offers better analysis and much more realistic expectations for Reed's performance in the NFL.
I understand people wanting to get excited about anything Seahawks, but praising a deeply flawed article because it tells you what you want to hear is lazy and irresponsible. And then these same people freak out all over these boards when SEA struggles, because in their minds they had overhyped the level of talent on the Hawks and fail to understand how razor-thin the talent discrepancy between NFL teams actually is.
Krieg's list":3rfvissm said:I'm sorry, but this was a very poor article. In fact, it actually managed to dampen my enthusiasm over this pick.
The first half of the article can be summarized as "Jarran Reed is a steal because lots of people not actually drafting for NFL teams thought he was really good and he was mocked much higher than SEA selected him and I think he's a total stud." Which is obviously ridiculous reasoning... except, apparently, when it's what you want to hear. :roll:
It goes on to show a few clips of Reed doing nothing particularly impressive, holding his position against single blocks (with no push) and making a tackle when the play comes right at him. This in itself isn't as worrisome as the fact the author handpicked these clips, implying they are at the very least typical-- or even worse, exceptional-- plays for Reed.
The second half of the article suddenly tries to bolster the "steal of the draft" claim by asserting that DT is a critical, underrated part of the Seattle defense, and clips are provided from a game that Mebane missed against KC where Charles tore up the SEA defense. Of course, both clips are clearly Malcolm Smith's responsibility (Wagner was also out), and in fact the DTs got good playside push in the first clip.
By far the best part of the post were the 2 comments by "jacobstevens", who offers better analysis and much more realistic expectations for Reed's performance in the NFL.
I understand people wanting to get excited about anything Seahawks, but praising a deeply flawed article because it tells you what you want to hear is lazy and irresponsible. And then these same people freak out all over these boards when SEA struggles, because in their minds they had overhyped the level of talent on the Hawks and fail to understand how razor-thin the talent discrepancy between NFL teams actually is.
Krieg's list":jyehw3pj said:Mistashoesta":jyehw3pj said:Jordan Hill, is that you!?
:lol: :lol: Although if Hill is worried about one of the rookies, I suspect it's Jefferson.
Sorry if I came across as down on Reed. I really just didn't care for the article itself and thought it did a poor job of supporting its premise. Reed will probably be a solid player for us, but "steal of the draft" is a huge stretch regardless, based on the value of run-stuffing DTs alone. As Kearly has pointed out in regard to this pick, it's a buyer's market for FA run-stuffers, so using a mid-2nd round pick isn't a good moneyball move. The savings between a 2nd round rookie contract and a capable FA vet is relatively small. We all hope Reed will become a stud 3-down DT, but he hasn't really shown anything to make it seem likely at this point.
kobebryant":cuzqulpp said:Steal is an entirely subjective term as well, hard to quantify.
Lords of Scythia":3n5zuyxq said:I'm liking "obviously the best run defender in the draft" and "every down brute force". That was a great article. Thanks for posting.
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