Why is our offense not clicking?

[Sarlacc83]

My 'ideal' is 90% positive plays. I don't expect 20 yard runs constantly, but the offensive line should pick up their assignments and create positive gains, even if they're a yard or two. The opposing team is going to make great plays once in awhile (something I harp on whenever people claim we should never have lost a game because X player sucks.) but right now they're too frequent for my tastes.

Like I said, prepare to be disappointed almost every game then. That might've been the case for Carroll at USC, but that's pipe dream in a balanced a league as the NFL. As talented as Seattle's offense might be, 90% positive plays essentially means scoring a touchdown on pretty much every drive. and even the 2007 Patriots never approached anything remotely close to that. the fact that you brought up the second half of Atlanta and the second SF game suggests that you do think those high points are achievable every game, when the poor play of the opponent also played a massive part in the outcome.

In the same way, Wilson is going to get sacked any number of times, but we shouldn't be seeing as many free run blitzes as we have. I'm not sure how you'd break down who's at fault without hearing play calls, but it's probably a mix of bad line calls and Wilson holding the ball too long.

Rodgers also holds the ball too long. Brady is not known for his long ball accuracy. Manning can't gun it into a tight pocket with velocity. There are certain aspects of even elite QBs that are basically part of who they are. If you ask them to correct it... well, they might be able to through massive repetition, but that means less repetition for other (as to the coaches, more important) parts of their game, and they might get worse at them as a result.

1) You missed my explanation about what constitutes a positive play. I admittedly forgot to take into account drops/incomplete passes, however, so let's bump that down to 70% to account for completion rate.

2) Manning and Rodgers both take the check down. I don't see that much from Wilson and it might help him from not getting killed.

 

[scutterhawk]

Wilson is unique in that he can keep the play alive when it doesn't work out as planned. He's REALLY good when Plan A fails and he needs to rely on Plan B. That doesn't mean you change your offense to Plan B. It means you need to fix what is wrong with Plan A.

That's a good way of saying it. Our drop back game is pretty lousy, and obviously some of that is pass pro. But he isn't dropping and releasing nearly enough - too much waiting and scrambling. The timing game is non-functioning so far.

That's it in a nut shell, something is not working to anything close to maximum efficiency, and those need to be worked on, so we don't get RW hurt by ignoring the problem.
Yes we won our first three games, and I'm happy as hell about that, BUT, if we don't get these glitches figured out and fixed, we run the risks of getting our treasured QB screwed up.
EVERY Defense that we face the rest of this Season are focusing in on what's wrong with our Offense, and will work their asses off to try'n blow it up before it gets up and running at it's peak.
Now I know that Pete and Co. aren't ignoring the problems, nor are they resting on our wins, so I hope that they can tighten up on the Offense before it messes up some more of our players.

 

[Perfundle]

Manning and Rodgers both take the check down. I don't see that much from Wilson and it might help him from not getting killed.

Taking the check down doesn't prevent you from getting hit, though. For Rodgers, who tends to hold on to the ball until someone comes open, he sometimes throws check downs because he's about to be hit, and then he gets hit afterward anyways.

Also, I wonder if Wilson's height is partly responsible here. Depending on the passing lanes, check downs are more likely to get tipped by the line, or even by the receiver (e.g. his interception yesterday, and his interception last year against SF at home). Rodgers had his last two passes tipped yesterday, and he's short as NFL QBs go.

 

[Sarlacc83]

Manning and Rodgers both take the check down. I don't see that much from Wilson and it might help him from not getting killed.

Taking the check down doesn't prevent you from getting hit, though. For Rodgers, who tends to hold on to the ball until someone comes open, he sometimes throws check downs because he's about to be hit, and then he gets hit afterward anyways.

Also, I wonder if Wilson's height is partly responsible here. Depending on the passing lanes, check downs are more likely to get tipped by the line, or even by the receiver (e.g. his interception yesterday, and his interception last year against SF at home). Rodgers had his last two passes tipped yesterday, and he's short as NFL QBs go.

An important factor here is that Rodgers has spent time off the field with various maladies including concussions. I don't want that to happen to Russell.

And you are correct, it won't stop him from getting hit completely. But if you know the QB is going to run around instead of dumping the ball off, you (as a DE or LB) aren't going to exercise any caution, either.

 

[Cartire]

Manning and Rodgers both take the check down. I don't see that much from Wilson and it might help him from not getting killed.

Taking the check down doesn't prevent you from getting hit, though. For Rodgers, who tends to hold on to the ball until someone comes open, he sometimes throws check downs because he's about to be hit, and then he gets hit afterward anyways.

Also, I wonder if Wilson's height is partly responsible here. Depending on the passing lanes, check downs are more likely to get tipped by the line, or even by the receiver (e.g. his interception yesterday, and his interception last year against SF at home). Rodgers had his last two passes tipped yesterday, and he's short as NFL QBs go.

An important factor here is that Rodgers has spent time off the field with various maladies including concussions. I don't want that to happen to Russell.

And you are correct, it won't stop him from getting hit completely. But if you know the QB is going to run around instead of dumping the ball off, you (as a DE or LB) aren't going to exercise any caution, either.

RW has plenty of dump offs after scrambling. Lb's are not going to be any less cautious as they would others QB's when it comes to risking the dump off. If anything, its part of RW's game.

 

[seahawks08]

it is hard to protect scrambling quarterbacks, for that you need a fast and athletic line that can adapt and adjust, which then can become a problem for the running game to stop blitzes. So RW tendency is normally to move around the pocket to find a throwing lane and when a QB does that, it is harder for the line to get an angle on a blitz not knowing where he will be at a given point of time. I have been watching this for a while and it is a problem hard to fix. Getting positive plays in every down is what we strive on, so the coaches will not stop RW from scrambling. It keeps the defenses guessing and also break down, so I think we will see the line breakdown and RW being hurried when the play does not go as designed. To minimize damages though and to protect RW, RW will have to keep building on his already wonderful skills of escaping pressure, but keep changing it up so that there is no tape on the he building a pattern that defenses can game plan on. The whole team is adapting to him and it will only get better in my opinion.

 

[hawkfan68]

Well, if OL is the issue then Jared Gaither is available. He's a left tackle and has proven experience in the NFL. He's huge at 6'9 and 340 pds. http://www.nfl.com/player/jaredgaither/2507311/profile. Definite upgrade strength wise over McQ.