Why is our offense not clicking?

[Hawks46]

I'm going to throw out an alternative theory, our defense. Our offense goes up against the most stifling defense this league has witnessed in years.....every freaking practice. Offense's are all about timing and it's difficult to get into any kind of rhythm when you are struggling every practice. I imagine our offensive prowess will pick up as the season progresses and we are able to get our timing down, much like last season.

I have been thinking about this theory for a few weeks now. I think it is a very sound theory. Holmgren used to force the defense to back off in practice while Pete pushes his defense to step it up and stop the offense in practice. A personally believe that Carroll's way in the long run will pay more dividends especially when it comes down to playing hard fought games on the road.

I've never thought of that, but it does make sense.

Personally, I'd go OL. After seeing a bit of Indy rushing against SF, IN SF, I'm thinking our OL just isn't very good. Indy was pretty bad rushing the ball in the first 2 games.

 

[seabowl]

The OL has not jelled like last year. Holes are not as apparent for the running game and Russ is seeing more pressure on passing downs.

 

[Kixkahn]

The only problems we have been truly complaining about is the line. It needs to have a serious boot up the backside next week. At least it is early enough in the season to fix this.

 

[Tical21]

I'm going to throw out an alternative theory, our defense. Our offense goes up against the most stifling defense this league has witnessed in years.....every freaking practice. Offense's are all about timing and it's difficult to get into any kind of rhythm when you are struggling every practice. I imagine our offensive prowess will pick up as the season progresses and we are able to get our timing down, much like last season.

I have been thinking about this theory for a few weeks now. I think it is a very sound theory. Holmgren used to force the defense to back off in practice while Pete pushes his defense to step it up and stop the offense in practice. A personally believe that Carroll's way in the long run will pay more dividends especially when it comes down to playing hard fought games on the road.

I've never thought of that, but it does make sense.

Personally, I'd go OL. After seeing a bit of Indy rushing against SF, IN SF, I'm thinking our OL just isn't very good. Indy was pretty bad rushing the ball in the first 2 games.

Once the season starts, our #1 offense doesn't line up against our #1 defense anymore.

 

[TwilightError]

About Rice, he will not make the team next year if he doesnt seriously start producing. He has had a few good catches but the end zone drop and many ball spinnings (only one got penalized) are not the reason for his massive salary. Pete said in Brock&Danny that the spinning penalty was a good call, so it seems he has been trying to talk to Rice about it but he hasnt taken note. One more and he should be benched. A good player but his effort does not match with his salary right now. I hope he proves me wrong and kills it the rest of the season!

Thanks for fulfilling my hopes Sidney! :th2thumbs:

 

[SoulfishHawk]

45 points

 

[HawkMeat]

The OL has not jelled like last year. Holes are not as apparent for the running game and Russ is seeing more pressure on passing downs.

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Russ looked pretty good despite the line. The Wide Receivers stepped up too yesterday.

The O'line is not very good and blown assignments. O'line typically gets better the more they play together so I am hoping each week protection improves or more designed roll outs to compensate for missing our Pro Bowler.

 

[Seahawkx]

I am still concerned about R.Wilson. I know he had good stats yesterday, but he wasn't playing like a QB that would win us games by himself. He made a few horrible decisions in the passing game, holds the ball too long, and doesn't scramble as often as last year.

I am still wondering why they cant run the read-option more like last year. I don't think the defenses are really afraid of RW's running ability anymore bcz he isn't taking off anymore. That's also why Lynch isn't getting any holes to run through and the o-line is bull-rushed every single down.. Last year when RW was running here and there, the opponent's d-lines were on their feet the whole time and couldn't just bull rush bcz they where afraid Wilson might just run past them. For example last year the game against the Bills and Bears, who were trying to bull rush and blitz as much as possible, but before they knew it, RW was 30 yards down the field. Just my 2cent!

 

[Perfundle]

I am still concerned about R.Wilson. I know he had good stats yesterday, but he wasn't playing like a QB that would win us games by himself. He made a few horrible decisions in the passing game, holds the ball too long, and doesn't scramble as often as last year.

For example last year the game against the Bills and Bears, who were trying to bull rush and blitz as much as possible, but before they knew it, RW was 30 yards down the field. Just my 2cent!

Amazing, because Wilson's longest run against Chicago was 13 yards!

It's bad enough that fans expect Wilson to be perfect (how did Rodgers look yesterday?) without having false memories of what he actually did last year as well.

I am still wondering why they cant run the read-option more like last year. I don't think the defenses are really afraid of RW's running ability anymore bcz he isn't taking off anymore. That's also why Lynch isn't getting any holes to run through and the o-line is bull-rushed every single down.. Last year when RW was running here and there, the opponent's d-lines were on their feet the whole time and couldn't just bull rush bcz they where afraid Wilson might just run past them.

"Why they can't run it?" They've hardly ran it this year.

 

[Cartire]

I am still concerned about R.Wilson. I know he had good stats yesterday, but he wasn't playing like a QB that would win us games by himself. He made a few horrible decisions in the passing game, holds the ball too long, and doesn't scramble as often as last year.

I am still wondering why they cant run the read-option more like last year. I don't think the defenses are really afraid of RW's running ability anymore bcz he isn't taking off anymore. That's also why Lynch isn't getting any holes to run through and the o-line is bull-rushed every single down.. Last year when RW was running here and there, the opponent's d-lines were on their feet the whole time and couldn't just bull rush bcz they where afraid Wilson might just run past them. For example last year the game against the Bills and Bears, who were trying to bull rush and blitz as much as possible, but before they knew it, RW was 30 yards down the field. Just my 2cent!

I just, just dont know what to say to this...

At this point, nothing will impress you. Doesnt scramble enough? Why would you want him to scramble more if he doesnt have too? I remember when a QB threw for 4 TD's, and people didnt complain about his performance. Oh, and he did that within 2 1/2 QRT's before being taken out.

This comment right here is why these threads should be locked upon creation.

Also request this thread be shacked. There are some other things that need to be said as well.... :3:

 

[Hasselbeck]

Offensive line is the biggest issue IMO. They've been giving up clear shots at Wilson all season.

Once that improves, which could take awhile now with Okung out, everything else should start to click.

The fact we've scored 74 points in the last two games with the offense still looking skittish though is downright incredible though. This team is going to be really scary good soon.

 

[Basis4day]

Offensive line is the biggest issue IMO. They've been giving up clear shots at Wilson all season.

Once that improves, which could take awhile now with Okung out, everything else should start to click.

The fact we've scored 74 points in the last two games with the offense still looking skittish though is downright incredible though. This team is going to be really scary good soon.

Or it means that .net is overreacting?

 

[C-Dub]

45 points

Yeah, it should be closer to 60 or 70 points. We're leaving a lot of points on the field.

 

[Seahawkx]

Amazing, because Wilson's longest run against Chicago was 13 yards!

It's bad enough that fans expect Wilson to be perfect (how did Rodgers look yesterday?) without having false memories of what he actually did last year as well.

Do you really think the seahawks would have won the Chicago game without RW's scrambling?? Seriously?!

"Why they can't run it?" They've hardly ran it this year.

I said "MORE" not why they CANT!

 

[SoulfishHawk]

You know your team is good when there are complaints about "we should have scored more" when they score 45.

 

[Seahawkx]

I just, just dont know what to say to this...

At this point, nothing will impress you. Doesnt scramble enough? Why would you want him to scramble more if he doesnt have too? I remember when a QB threw for 4 TD's, and people didnt complain about his performance. Oh, and he did that within 2 1/2 QRT's before being taken out.

This comment right here is why these threads should be locked upon creation.

Also request this thread be shacked. There are some other things that need to be said as well.... :3:

Man Calm down! I think its allowed for people to express their opinions on a public forum!

This is exactly what I am talking about. Some of you have made RW into P.Manning/Brady status and wont allow anyone to point out a few of his weaknesses. I never said RW sucks or needs to be benched. All I am saying is RW can be a much better QB if he goes back to his dual threat mode and get rid of the ball faster! Now again, this is my opinion so calm the **** down and stop asking for threads to be locked up or shacked!

 

[Cartire]

Amazing, because Wilson's longest run against Chicago was 13 yards!

It's bad enough that fans expect Wilson to be perfect (how did Rodgers look yesterday?) without having false memories of what he actually did last year as well.

Do you really think the seahawks would have won the Chicago game without RW's scrambling?? Seriously?!

"Why they can't run it?" They've hardly ran it this year.

I said "MORE" not why they CANT!

First, he clearly didnt say that winning Chicago wasnt because of Wilson. But Wilson NEEDED to scramble in Chicago to win. He hasnt needed to do that for us to win here, so why do you want him to do it so much?

Second, we DONT NEED to run the read-option more. Were winning games handily. Why do you want us to put all of our bag of tricks on the table for everyone to study if we DONT NEED to. Why put Wilson in more risk then he needs to be? I know as a fan you want to see 71-0 blowouts every game, but lets just be reasonable.

Oh, and lets not forget, for as great as RW was in Chicago, he made a lot of those runs on 3rd and longs. So it wasnt like he/they were just marching down the field without being challenged. Take off the nostalgia goggles. I know its been a year, but RW was great yesterday, and this idea that, unless hes perfect, he's not clicking, or whatever, is horse poop.

 

[Sarlacc83]

Offensive line is the biggest issue IMO. They've been giving up clear shots at Wilson all season.

Once that improves, which could take awhile now with Okung out, everything else should start to click.

The fact we've scored 74 points in the last two games with the offense still looking skittish though is downright incredible though. This team is going to be really scary good soon.

Or it means that .net is overreacting?

Possibly. Or it means that we saw what this team did last year and we're not seeing the same results. Maybe we'd like to see a repeat of the good part of 2012?

 

[Cartire]

I just, just dont know what to say to this...

At this point, nothing will impress you. Doesnt scramble enough? Why would you want him to scramble more if he doesnt have too? I remember when a QB threw for 4 TD's, and people didnt complain about his performance. Oh, and he did that within 2 1/2 QRT's before being taken out.

This comment right here is why these threads should be locked upon creation.

Also request this thread be shacked. There are some other things that need to be said as well.... :3:

Man Calm down! I think its allowed for people to express their opinions on a public forum!

This is exactly what I am talking about. Some of you have made RW into P.Manning/Brady status and wont allow anyone to point out a few of his weaknesses. I never said RW sucks or needs to be benched. All I am saying is RW can be a much better QB if he goes back to his dual threat mode and get rid of the ball faster! Now again, this is my opinion so calm the **** down and stop asking for threads to be locked up or shacked!

It is a public forum. so if your going to express your opinion, be prepared to back it up. Dont expect to just post without being challenged. It is PUBLIC after all.

And making RW into Manning/Brady status. Are you high right now. First, do you even watch those two play? Because Manning is notorious for making horrible decisions at key moments just as much as he is for making great decisions. But I dont think people are in the Broncos forums wondering whats wrong with him. Same goes for Brady. Infact, the first 2 weeks, Brady was horrible. And guess what, both those guys CAN be better qb's.

Your knickpicking a 45 point win and getting called out on it. Own up to it.

 

[Cartire]

Offensive line is the biggest issue IMO. They've been giving up clear shots at Wilson all season.

Once that improves, which could take awhile now with Okung out, everything else should start to click.

The fact we've scored 74 points in the last two games with the offense still looking skittish though is downright incredible though. This team is going to be really scary good soon.

Or it means that .net is overreacting?

Possibly. Or it means that we saw what this team did last year and we're not seeing the same results. Maybe we'd like to see a repeat of the good part of 2012?

Its a pure nostalgia thing. The 58-0 win over AZ last year, RW was far worse then yesterdays game. But as time goes on, people dont recall the bad things that happened in games, they only remember the good things. As of right now, everyone thinks that from Chicago on, RW was posting perfect passer ratings and never taking a sack.