Why I think DK will NEVER reach his full potential

[HAWKN'83]

The DK trade talks are swirling and I'm personally for it and my opinion is based on his play, and this interview he had with SS. So pompous, immature, over confident. He's had years to mature and progress his game. He's been given advice by proven winners with multiple rings and he shrugs it off as if he's better. Irritating to say the least.

 

[JPatera76]

This is a short clip from overall a pretty respectful interview between the two including DK.. so i definitely respectfully disagree with your statement tbh. DK is actually a pretty humble and respectful dude in 99% of his interviews.

 

[Chukarhawk]

At this point, DK is what he is. He'll very likely never get any better than he is now. He needs routes where he is catching the ball in stride. His 3 cone and shuttle times show that he is not quick at all. He's blazing fast once he gets going but slow to get going. Average at best hands. Never seen the guy use his height and vertical to go up high and get a ball. Like ever. I love that he is an enthusiastic blocker. He's competitive but seems like he has never been able to properly channel his fire when he gets worked up. I don't see a next level; in fact, he often loses focus and gets taken out of his game by defenders that engage in trash talking and physical play.

To this day I think the biggest mystery is how is this guy not dominant in the red zone with his size when going up against smaller defenders. DK, back of the endzone where only he can't go up and get it. If he misses it, it goes out of bounds.

overall, a good player that had the potential to be really good or great. With his limitations I'm not sure I would call him WR1.

 

[HAWKN'83]

This is a short clip from overall a pretty resourceful interview between the two including DK.. so i definitely respectfully disagree with your statement tbh. DK is actually a pretty humble and respectful dude in 99% of his interviews.

DK, humble? A humble dude doesn't get lazy on his route running. He only admitted such after being called out on it. And it may have been a short clip, but a telling one of everything I already thought about the guy.

 

[jammerhawk]

Once again another thread where Metcalf is characterized as team problem and head case. Every season he gets better and every season he's attracting double teams and stupid uncalled physicality where he gets mugged with cheap shots after the play. Thing is he needs to just stop punching back, and the penalties will come for him and not against him.

I disagree with the OP, everyone is entitled to their own opinion even when it is biased and wrong. Genuinely suspect without him here Geno would be a whole lot worse off.

 

[Chukarhawk]

Once again another thread where Metcalf is characterized as team problem and head case. Every season he gets better and every season he's attracting double teams and stupid uncalled physicality where he gets mugged with cheap shots after the play. Thing is he needs to just stop punching back, and the penalties will come for him and not against him.

I disagree with the OP, everyone is entitled to their own opinion even when it is biased and wrong. Genuinely suspect without him here Geno would be a whole lot worse off.

I don't think he's a head case or a team problem. He becomes A problem when Geno or our Coordinator try and force the offense through him. He's not that kind of receiver.

 

[jammerhawk]

He is still learning to be an NFL WR and to take what is given him.

Apparently Grubb thinks he's the best WR on the team though must be discounting Lockett.

 

[HAWKN'83]

Once again another thread where Metcalf is characterized as team problem and head case. Every season he gets better and every season he's attracting double teams and stupid uncalled physicality where he gets mugged with cheap shots after the play. Thing is he needs to just stop punching back, and the penalties will come for him and not against him.

I disagree with the OP, everyone is entitled to their own opinion even when it is biased and wrong. Genuinely suspect without him here Geno would be a whole lot worse off.

How can someone have a biased opinion on a player on a team they like? Couldn't I say your opinion is biased too? What a weird statement.

 

[jammerhawk]

I'm not biased even though I like Metcalf.

Statistically Metcalf is the top WR on the team with 469 yards receiving and 31 catches. JSN has 33 catches but more than 140 yds less ground gained. Lockett has been less productive so far this year but that might be injury related yet still is ranked in the top 50.

 

[MORGULON]

At this point, DK is what he is. He'll very likely never get any better than he is now. He needs routes where he is catching the ball in stride. His 3 cone and shuttle times show that he is not quick at all. He's blazing fast once he gets going but slow to get going. Average at best hands. Never seen the guy use his height and vertical to go up high and get a ball. Like ever. I love that he is an enthusiastic blocker. He's competitive but seems like he has never been able to properly channel his fire when he gets worked up. I don't see a next level; in fact, he often loses focus and gets taken out of his game by defenders that engage in trash talking and physical play.

To this day I think the biggest mystery is how is this guy not dominant in the red zone with his size when going up against smaller defenders. DK, back of the endzone where only he can't go up and get it. If he misses it, it goes out of bounds.

overall, a good player that had the potential to be really good or great. With his limitations I'm not sure I would call him WR1.

Excellent post imo.

This has been talked about quite a bit and for good reason. I agree , he is what he is , take it as you will. He has some unique physical gifts but where I agree he's an above average WR , he isn't a true ,big money WR1.

Add in the fact he can and does get taken out of his game by the opposition, never seems to be the guy to come through at clutch times and makes stupid decisions at the worst times , I hope JS avoids the trap of giving him a team cap altering contract. Especially since he's almost 30 years old.

Maybe put an offensive line together ?

 

[Chukarhawk]

Excellent post imo.

This has been talked about quite a bit and for good reason. I agree , he is what he is , take it as you will. He has some unique physical gifts but where I agree he's an above average WR , he isn't a true ,big money WR1.

Add in the fact he can and does get taken out of his game by the opposition, never seems to be the guy to come through at clutch times and makes stupid decisions at the worst times , I hope JS avoids the trap of giving him a team cap altering contract. Especially since he's almost 30 years old.

Maybe put an offensive line together ?

I will say late last year he had multiple, clutch 4th quarter catches that kept winning drives going on 3rd down. Down the stretch he was pretty clutch last year. He needs less hitch route and more posts, slants and go routes. Those shorter routes that require him to stop and catch the ball are NOT complementary to his game, He really struggles to get separation in these situations. Use his speed.

 

[MORGULON]

Once again another thread where Metcalf is characterized as team problem and head case. Every season he gets better and every season he's attracting double teams and stupid uncalled physicality where he gets mugged with cheap shots after the play. Thing is he needs to just stop punching back, and the penalties will come for him and not against him.

I disagree with the OP, everyone is entitled to their own opinion even when it is biased and wrong. Genuinely suspect without him here Geno would be a whole lot worse off.

Sounds like some of us disagree regarding DK.

That's cool and the reason .NET is such a cool place .

I admit , the reasons you gave are compelling , you say that he draws double teams (agreed) , without DK , Geno would be worse off than he appears to be now ( not sure about this , I think it hurts Geno spreading the ball around) .

I think it's detrimental to Lockett and JSN , Fant, Bobo and lessons their involvement and contributions. Takes them out of the game mentally.

DK pouting on the sidelines (you saw that right?) and yelling at the coordinator, running lazy routes , not using his superior size to his advantage , the penalties and the astronomical contract he is going to command make it hard for me to like him being a part of the Seahawks moving forward. He's almost 30 y.o.
but people speak of him like he's a young pup finding his way. He's not young , just immature.

I don't hate DK like some have said on here, I just like the Seahawks more.

 

[toffee]

At this point, DK is what he is. He'll very likely never get any better than he is now. He needs routes where he is catching the ball in stride. His 3 cone and shuttle times show that he is not quick at all. He's blazing fast once he gets going but slow to get going. Average at best hands. Never seen the guy use his height and vertical to go up high and get a ball. Like ever. I love that he is an enthusiastic blocker. He's competitive but seems like he has never been able to properly channel his fire when he gets worked up. I don't see a next level; in fact, he often loses focus and gets taken out of his game by defenders that engage in trash talking and physical play.

To this day I think the biggest mystery is how is this guy not dominant in the red zone with his size when going up against smaller defenders. DK, back of the endzone where only he can't go up and get it. If he misses it, it goes out of bounds.

overall, a good player that had the potential to be really good or great. With his limitations I'm not sure I would call him WR1.

I agree, and yes, DK would make an excellent WR2. Just the way Ole Miss did it with AJ as WR1 and DK as WR2.

Come to think of it, he was productive when Lockett was WR1, maybe time to focus on JSN as #1a, and make DK #1b?

 

[rcaido]

I never got the pompous immature vibe from DK. Just a dude who can be emotionally unstable if things don't go his way. I only want him traded because I don't believe paying WR that type of money.

 

[WmHBonney]

I'm sick of seeing DK get mugged on most plays and there are no flags because it's just like Hack-a-Shack. The refs don't give him anything.

 

[JPatera76]

I'm sick of seeing DK get mugged on most plays and there are no flags because it's just like Hack-a-Shack. The refs don't give him anything.

And the minute he reacts flags go everywhere. Hell look back at the London game, he was fighting for the ball, but would get flagged. Or when the official was following him back to the huddle and flagged him smh It feels like 9/10 when he does go for a ball, one of his hands is always being held down but not flag

 

[Rat]

I agree, DK is never going to reach his potential. That's because his potential is so absurdly ridiculous, that it'd be almost impossible to. How many WRs has the NFL ever seen with his physical gifts? He looks like a cheat code at times.

He's a phenomenal player that any team would be lucky to have. His passion is inspiring. It actually speaks highly of his character that despite how intensely he clearly feels things, he always stops short of deflecting blame. He wants to win and he cares about his teammates. I hope he stays in Seattle and continues to re-write our receiving record books.

 

[Hawknight]

IMHO I believe it would be best to serve the best interests of both sides. I agree that DK may have not reached his career potential, but we may not be the team to help him reach that point in his career. Our team is rebuilding whether you accept that or not. Geno is NOT the QB to propel any team to the playoffs..period. With that being said...DK deserves an opportunity to play for a team with a high opportunity of success who may need a his potential to take them into the playoffs and beyond and provide him a fair chance to pad his stats for a Hall of Fame type career. For the Seahawks it would be an opportunity to trade in his skills while he still has a high value to build this team for the future and bring our salary cap into an opportunity to sign talent across the board. This is no knock on the Seahawks or DK, but only to recognize that this may be the right time for both sides to depart ways. Again..just my humble opinion.

 

[m0ng0]

Because he walks around wearing pants like this?

 

[getnasty]

Not sure DK'S fitness and what he feeds his body is any sort of a concern. Penalties, route running, high pointing, better hands maybe. I'm fine with the fuel going into that body.