hawknation2015
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I picked "The week leading up to the first regular season game." Let's see him prove me wrong, and cost himself money and goodwill in the process.
When Will Kam Report?
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Hopefully he isn't stupid and comes back next week.
I predict Kam will be back on Monday. After the cuts on Saturday, depending who is let go there will be extra cap space and Bam Bam and Michael Bennett will get a monetary thank you; everyone will be happy, and this team with its two electrifying rookies (Frank, and Tyler) will start to carve a road to San Francisco. I hope that I'm prophet on this one. We'll just have to wait and see.
Cyrus12
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if he isnt back for start of reg season start shopping him to the bottom fwellers of the nfl....money is obviously the biggest factor to him so the crap teams can afford to pay him what he wants.
Looks to be sooner rather than later. If this report / speculation is accurate.
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5910/kam-chancellor
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5910/kam-chancellor
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Bprez3":qjh4ecv0 said:
Jason Cole is an idiot.. not putting much into this.
If Glazer/Schefter report something along these lines, then I will give it more weight
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The other thing I am worried about with Kam now is how well he's going to hold up during the season after this hold out. You see so many players get hurt after a holdout because their body simply isn't conditioned properly for the toll of the season.
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Hasselbeck":3q6tcg2k said:
You are correct. We all have seen a player become injured when he is rushed back into the line up after missing TC. However, we must also consider that with the new Player's Agreement, the amount of hitting in TC has been greatly reduced. Yet Kam has missed all of Pre-season as well. If he shows up on Sunday or Monday, I'm sure that he will not see extensive playing time against the Rams.....maybe a 3rd down or so? However....let's not count our chickens before they hatch.
hawkfan68
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I may be way off here but just trying to come up with a solid reason why Kam is still holding out. I was doing some research and saw via the Sportrac.com website that Cary Williams got $7M in guaranteed money on his contract with the Seahawks which is for 3 yr/$18M. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/seattle-seahawks/cary-williams/.
Kam's contract was 4yrs/$28M with $7.825M guaranteed. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/seattle-seahawks/kam-chancellor/. I'm thinking the guarantee monies that were given to Cary Williams didn't sit well with Kam. Maybe he feels that he was slighted in that respect. From all reports, it's the guaranteed money that Kam is most interested in. Also, Cary is 30 years old and will be 33 at the time his contract runs out. Kam is only 27 and will be 30 when his contract runs out. Based on that, he feels underpaid. So I can see where he's coming from in this respect, sort of. I still think he's going about it in the wrong way. His method is hurting him more because he's losing money the longer he holds out.
Kam's contract was 4yrs/$28M with $7.825M guaranteed. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/seattle-seahawks/kam-chancellor/. I'm thinking the guarantee monies that were given to Cary Williams didn't sit well with Kam. Maybe he feels that he was slighted in that respect. From all reports, it's the guaranteed money that Kam is most interested in. Also, Cary is 30 years old and will be 33 at the time his contract runs out. Kam is only 27 and will be 30 when his contract runs out. Based on that, he feels underpaid. So I can see where he's coming from in this respect, sort of. I still think he's going about it in the wrong way. His method is hurting him more because he's losing money the longer he holds out.
MizzouHawkGal
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You can't compare cornerback contracts to safety contracts especially strong safeties just like you can't with tight ends and outside wide receivers. Totally different positions with totally different expectations, duties and responsibilities. Hence the stark difference in pay scale.massari":341yw3ye said:
hawknation2015
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MizzouHawkGal":2qb7c6jb said:
You also can't compare contracts now to contracts that were signed two seasons ago. He agreed to this deal! He needs to stop coveting his neighbor's contract and get his butt back on the field before he loses even more money and respect.
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hawknation2015":2s56i6ln said:
Soooo....what's it going to take to get him back to Virginia Mason Athletic Center? Got any ideas short of a gun?
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massari":19l5u4t0 said:
Good point Massari. I think what you posted here is key. He may feel slighted because of he believes his value to the team is higher. He's been here producing for the Seahawks (as a Seahawk) over someone who hasn't proved themselves as a Seahawk. If they had re-signed Maxwell, I believe that Kam Chancellor would be in training camp and there would be no problems (This is just a guess as I have nothing concrete. I don't know Kam personally). Regardless of positions, it comes down to feeling "valued". Kam, from what I hear and seen of him, is extremely principled type of person. He sticks to his principles. For him it may be more of the principle of feeling disrespected or undervalued (his perception).
It's like someone from the outside coming into an organization getting more money than someone who has contributed to the success of the organization for the past several years and is a key component of that success. I think some of the receivers may have had these feelings about Percy Harvin. Harvin proved to be an idiot and caused many of the issues himself, but I can also see some discontent toward him by the rest of the receivers (ADB, Tate) because of he got such a large deal. These guys are nice people but have a lot of ego and pride. Sometimes ego and pride can get the better of them. Not just them, it can happen to all of us. I've been in a similar situation myself where my ego and pride has got the better of me. I didn't handle it well myself. I did learn from it and should that situation arise again, I'll be able to deal with it better.
Williams plays a different position than Kam, true. But the greater group is called LOB. They are an unit. Now you have an outsider entering that unit and he's got as much in guaranteed money as Kam got. This is where the business side of the NFL becomes a bit personal. When emotions take over, thinking logically goes out the window (in most cases). Honestly, I don't really know of a solution to this because the damage between Kam and the Seahawks is already done. Both parties are feeling disrespected in some way. I do hope that Kam remains a Seahawk. I believe he is good guy and does put the team above anything else when he's on the field and playing.
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With how stubborn Kam is being, I'm starting to think he shows up to play the final 6 games so he can accrue a "full season" of service and get a year knocked off his contract. That will give him more leverage when he does the same thing next year.
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HawkFan72":1gyih1r3 said:
That tactic may give him more leverage next year but a damn sight less money.
Isn't that what it's about at rock bottom. "Respect" is a code word for money.
Try buying his next BMW with leverage.
Very good observation on your part though.
