What would it take for you to want Pete fired?

[Tinamedina]

Getting rid of a HC is easy. Finding a top 4 HC to replace him is the problem. When the HC you're getting rid of is a top 10 HC it just amplifies the risk.

No it won't, call eric bieniemy. Any coach that comes in after him will be better because his playbook will be better suited to fit 2021 football.

Remember when everyone was saying Steve Spagnuolo was going to be a great head coach when his D stifled the '07 Patriots in the Super Bowl?

He went 11-41 as a head coach. No coordinator is a guarantee. Certainly not a top 10 guarantee.

With Russell Wilson as the qb, yes it is. Pete Carroll is not a good coach, he just lucked up with Russell Wilson. Eric Bieniemy knows how to strategize and adjust, with Russell Wilson as qb, its a guarantee.

 

[hgwellz12]

Chris made some really salient points in regards to us being a victim of our own successes. Newer Seahawks fans might not understand just how good we've been for the past decade, but it truly is a handicap in a game as brutal as football with a salary cap. It's also the reason that I believe Jody will be hesitant to fire Pete.

I voted "No playoff wins this year". I also want him to bounce if our Defense allows 25+ points per game and Norton doesn't get tossed, regardless of our record.

 

[themunn]

A losing record 2 years in a row

OR

<6 wins with a full strength team (e.g. Wilson doesn't go down in first game of season, Wagner misses 12 games etc.)

 

[getnasty]

Serious question: In 2021 what is the Pete culture?

To me it's not about competition anymore, but the size of your contract.

Always Compete is gone. Get Paid, Go Play is the motto this year

Can you name a postion where someone with a bigger contract is playing and doesn't deserve it?

 

[Tinamedina]

Chris made some really salient points in regards to us being a victim of our own successes. Newer Seahawks fans might not understand just how good we've been for the past decade, but it truly is a handicap in a game as brutal as football with a salary cap. It's also the reason that I believe Jody will be hesitant to fire Pete.

I voted "No playoff wins this year". I also want him to bounce if our Defense allows 25+ points per game and Norton doesn't get tossed, regardless of our record.

People really don't see that the only reason Seahawks win games is BECAUSE Russell Wilson. Take Russell Wilson out of the equation, and Pete Carroll would have been fired just like the Patriots and the Jets.

 

[sdog1981]

We have THREE playoff wins in SIX years. We are in the Marty Shottenheimer pattern and I hate it for my hawks.

So much ignorance to unpack here.

Those 3 wins put the Seahawks 3rd for most playoff wins in since 2015. The only teams with more are Patriots and Chiefs.

Marty never won the big one, but every team he left was significantly worse after he left. Clevland, KC, and SD all went into long periods of losing after he left.

 

[Jville]

This poll is biased and leans way too much to reasons to have him fired. Even the first answer, which allows a vote to keep him shows that bias in a backhanded way. By reading through the prospective answers to the question, one is left with nothing but excuses to get rid of the BEST COACH IN SEAHAWKS HISTORY!

The question is literally what would it take for you to want him fired. It’s not the Should he be fired poll. It looks like you are the I will NEVER want him fired train. It just an opinion and all will vary.

The get rid of the “7 years ago” part of the first possible answer. That qualifying statement screams anti Carroll bias.

Sadly, that wouldn't fix it.

It's a biased poll. Nakedly worded.

 

[toffee]

Here on dot net, old Pete gets fired few times a week. Does take much at all, even after a win, so long the winning was ugly, folks called for old Pete to be fired.

 

[RiverDog]

I voted no playoff wins this year. I didn't want to put a fixed number, but neither did I feel that I wanted to hold my opinion until the end of the year. I want to see some type of improvement rather than another season of mediocrity.

I fully admit that I'm somewhat spoiled, that fan bases like the Lions or Browns would love to be in our predicament of having appeared in the playoffs in 9 out of the past 11 season. But there comes a point when I'm willing to risk a throw of the dice by starting over from scratch if the alternative is continued post season flops.

I'm also including Russell Wilson in on my contempt if we can't show some improvement, depending on how things turn out. This is his team as much at it is Pete's.

Needless to say, this is a pivotal season for my sticking on the bandwagon.

 

[chris98251]

Chris made some really salient points in regards to us being a victim of our own successes. Newer Seahawks fans might not understand just how good we've been for the past decade, but it truly is a handicap in a game as brutal as football with a salary cap. It's also the reason that I believe Jody will be hesitant to fire Pete.

I voted "No playoff wins this year". I also want him to bounce if our Defense allows 25+ points per game and Norton doesn't get tossed, regardless of our record.

People really don't see that the only reason Seahawks win games is BECAUSE Russell Wilson. Take Russell Wilson out of the equation, and Pete Carroll would have been fired just like the Patriots and the Jets.

No, they would win with Montana, Brady, Young, Manning, Mahomes, etc, Wilson doesn't tackle, catch balls, run the ball regularly between the tackles, block etc.

Wilson helps win games, all those pieces around him and the staff is assembled by Pete and John.

Maybe research great QB's that never won a Super Bowl if you think just a QB wins games.

 

[Fade]

Chris made some really salient points in regards to us being a victim of our own successes. Newer Seahawks fans might not understand just how good we've been for the past decade, but it truly is a handicap in a game as brutal as football with a salary cap. It's also the reason that I believe Jody will be hesitant to fire Pete.

I voted "No playoff wins this year". I also want him to bounce if our Defense allows 25+ points per game and Norton doesn't get tossed, regardless of our record.

People really don't see that the only reason Seahawks win games is BECAUSE Russell Wilson. Take Russell Wilson out of the equation, and Pete Carroll would have been fired just like the Patriots and the Jets.

No, they would win with Montana, Brady, Young, Manning, Mahomes, etc, Wilson doesn't tackle, catch balls, run the ball regularly between the tackles, block etc.

Wilson helps win games, all those pieces around him and the staff is assembled by Pete and John.

Maybe research great QB's that never won a Super Bowl if you think just a QB wins games.

Great QBs win in the regular season. Great teams win in the playoffs.

 

[John63]

Chris made some really salient points in regards to us being a victim of our own successes. Newer Seahawks fans might not understand just how good we've been for the past decade, but it truly is a handicap in a game as brutal as football with a salary cap. It's also the reason that I believe Jody will be hesitant to fire Pete.

I voted "No playoff wins this year". I also want him to bounce if our Defense allows 25+ points per game and Norton doesn't get tossed, regardless of our record.

People really don't see that the only reason Seahawks win games is BECAUSE Russell Wilson. Take Russell Wilson out of the equation, and Pete Carroll would have been fired just like the Patriots and the Jets.

No, they would win with Montana, Brady, Young, Manning, Mahomes, etc, Wilson doesn't tackle, catch balls, run the ball regularly between the tackles, block etc.

Wilson helps win games, all those pieces around him and the staff is assembled by Pete and John.

Maybe research great QB's that never won a Super Bowl if you think just a QB wins games.

I agree it takes a team to win, but as we all know a great QB makes sit much easier and in fact, a large % of those Sb winning teams had great QBs, AS to your thought son all those other QBs you could be right you could also be wrong we will never know. As to your assertion the PC and John putting all those pieces around him etc etc well that make sit sound like you think most of the credit for winning should go to them. The problem is there are huge gaps where the talent around him was limited and yet winning season after winning season. So let snot pretend that PC and John are the lone reason for anything. The reality is as long as we have Wilson and he is healthy we will more than likely always have a winning season. Even when he has to account for over 85% of the offensive yards, and 95% of the offensive Tds and is our leading rusher by a 2-1 margin as well as a passer, and a middle-of-the-road scoring defense.

 

[John63]

Chris made some really salient points in regards to us being a victim of our own successes. Newer Seahawks fans might not understand just how good we've been for the past decade, but it truly is a handicap in a game as brutal as football with a salary cap. It's also the reason that I believe Jody will be hesitant to fire Pete.

I voted "No playoff wins this year". I also want him to bounce if our Defense allows 25+ points per game and Norton doesn't get tossed, regardless of our record.

People really don't see that the only reason Seahawks win games is BECAUSE Russell Wilson. Take Russell Wilson out of the equation, and Pete Carroll would have been fired just like the Patriots and the Jets.

No, they would win with Montana, Brady, Young, Manning, Mahomes, etc, Wilson doesn't tackle, catch balls, run the ball regularly between the tackles, block etc.

Wilson helps win games, all those pieces around him and the staff is assembled by Pete and John.

Maybe research great QB's that never won a Super Bowl if you think just a QB wins games.

Great QBs win in the regular season. Great teams win in the playoffs.

got to win in the regular season to get to the playoffs

 

[907Hawk]

This poll is biased and leans way too much to reasons to have him fired. Even the first answer, which allows a vote to keep him shows that bias in a backhanded way. By reading through the prospective answers to the question, one is left with nothing but excuses to get rid of the BEST COACH IN SEAHAWKS HISTORY!

Not surprising considering who the OP is, Pete is going to leave when he wants to. :irishdrinkers:

 

[Sports Hernia]

I am a Seattle Seahawks fan, I want Pete to hoist his 2nd Lombardi Trophy this year or next.
Pete though has to go against his default tendency to meddle, and of course the team has to stay healthy and execute at a higher level than last year.

 

[scutterhawk]

This thread is 'Childish', and not in a good way "childish" ukeface:
Time for some of y'all to grow some Wee Wee dangles, & quit pretending like you are some sought after Football Gurus, cuz Y'aint. :141847_bnono:

 

[chris98251]

This thread is 'Childish', and not in a good way "childish" ukeface:
Time for some of y'all to grow some Wee Wee dangles, & quit pretending like you are some sought after Football Gurus, cuz Y'aint. :141847_bnono:

True, we should just close the doors, not point in discussing anything if your not working for the Seahawks and an expert.

Damn wasted all these years here thinking that discussing the team, moves of the team, players, games and such was what this place was for. Silly me.........

 

[Maulbert]

This thread is 'Childish', and not in a good way "childish" ukeface:
Time for some of y'all to grow some Wee Wee dangles, & quit pretending like you are some sought after Football Gurus, cuz Y'aint. :141847_bnono:

True, we should just close the doors, not point in discussing anything if your not working for the Seahawks and an expert.

Damn wasted all these years here thinking that discussing the team, moves of the team, players, games and such was what this place was for. Silly me.........

I'd agree with you.... but JayhawkMike is incapable of nuance and discussion.

 

[Tokadub]

There is no realistic scenario I would want Pete fired. It's not gonna happen. He will resign if it get's to that point... I'm confident in that statement.

Right now he has nothing to prove, it's game time. They are gonna try to win RIGHT NOW. I'm not confident they will, but I haven't seen the first stringers.

I'm still NOT confident in the first stringers... but in no way will it be Pete's fault.

Some of our players might just be over paid and no coach could overcome this...

I'm not sure if Mahomes will win again once he gets paid (this season right???)....

Once you overpay a QB like Wilson and Mahomes you gotta be VERY careful to not overpay anyone else or you most likely are done. I think we over paid Jamal Adams which is why I think we are done....

Love to be proven wrong though.

 

[pittpnthrs]

I've wanted him gone for years now. Its evident that the game has passed him by. He gets outcoached on a regular basis. Last season when he openly admitted that he didnt understand how the Bills and the Rams beat him with their game plans,,,,,that was the final straw. That was embarrassing. Sadly Jody wont fire him because she doesnt want bothered with the team and its still making money right now, so everybodys stuck with old Pete and those early round playoff exits until he steps down or runs Wilson out of Seattle.