We survived a Mike Carey game.

[MidwestHawker]

Since I am not good at posting pictures I thought a Mike Carry look alike would Major Payne. Yes the guy is a Dbag. The PI on Earl was a joke. Also RW knee in OT was a horrible call. What do you have to do to show you down? Get in the fetal position? He would probably throw a flag for taunting then..

Pretty sure he spotted the ball where Russell kneeled...it was just that the Bucs kept going and the crew didn't lay on the whistles early enough.

 

[Seahawkfan80]

Probably have to dogpile on top of him...then it would also be taunting. In the netchat...we were all WTF ing too. Yes, we will have to play 2 teams from now on....the opposing team and the reffing team. Can they fine referees for doing bad calls??

 

[Sports Hernia]

Probably have to dogpile on top of him...then it would also be taunting. In the netchat...we were all WTF ing too. Yes, we will have to play 2 teams from now on....the opposing team and the reffing team. Can they fine referees for doing bad calls??

This is Rog Goodell's NFL, they'll probably get bonuses for yesterday's boondoggle.

 

[MysterMatt]

I know we Seahawks fans have never had a huge love affair with refs, but it is worth noting that our team is now good enough to overcome a lot of horrible calls. I really like that.

That said, it's past time the league do something about refs making calls that materially affect the game...and to hold refs accountable in some public fashion when they blow it. Players, coaches, and teams have to eat crap when the screw up, why not the refs? If coaches cannot challenge a play call, then the booth should be able to do so.

 

[AbsolutNET]

PI calls should be like 10 yards from scrimmage awarded to offense and automatic first down. Get rid of these 50 yard penalties at spot of foul because the corner used an arm bar on the receiver.

Couldn't agree more. I've long thought PI should be a 15 yard penalty, and not a potentially game changing judgement call.

 

[MysterMatt]

PI calls should be like 10 yards from scrimmage awarded to offense and automatic first down. Get rid of these 50 yard penalties at spot of foul because the corner used an arm bar on the receiver.

Couldn't agree more. I've long thought PI should be a 15 yard penalty, and not a potentially game changing judgement call.

Or to allow it to be reviewable, given the impact the call can have.

 

[FargoHawk]

PI calls should be like 10 yards from scrimmage awarded to offense and automatic first down. Get rid of these 50 yard penalties at spot of foul because the corner used an arm bar on the receiver.

Couldn't agree more. I've long thought PI should be a 15 yard penalty, and not a potentially game changing judgement call.

Disagree. Then defenders can blatantly and intentionally tackle a WR and only be penalized 15 yards rather than a big gain or penalty.

Also, I feel like they changed this rule in the past 10-15 years for that exact reason.

 

[Polaris]

PI calls should be like 10 yards from scrimmage awarded to offense and automatic first down. Get rid of these 50 yard penalties at spot of foul because the corner used an arm bar on the receiver.

Couldn't agree more. I've long thought PI should be a 15 yard penalty, and not a potentially game changing judgement call.

Disagree. Then defenders can blatantly and intentionally tackle a WR and only be penalized 15 yards rather than a big gain or penalty.

Also, I feel like they changed this rule in the past 10-15 years for that exact reason.

DPI has always been a spot foul for as long as I can remember and I've been following NFL Football since 1983.

I note that in College Ball, DPI is a fifteen yard penalty (or it was until recently) and I haven't noticed a preponderance of dbs tackling wrs.

 

[hawksfansinceday1]

PI calls should be like 10 yards from scrimmage awarded to offense and automatic first down. Get rid of these 50 yard penalties at spot of foul because the corner used an arm bar on the receiver.

Couldn't agree more. I've long thought PI should be a 15 yard penalty, and not a potentially game changing judgement call.

Disagree. Then defenders can blatantly and intentionally tackle a WR and only be penalized 15 yards rather than a big gain or penalty.

Also, I feel like they changed this rule in the past 10-15 years for that exact reason.

DPI has always been a spot foul for as long as I can remember and I've been following NFL Football since 1983.

I note that in College Ball, DPI is a fifteen yard penalty (or it was until recently) and I haven't noticed a preponderance of dbs tackling wrs.

IIRC it's been a spot foul in the NFL for as long as I've been watching the game, since 1964.

 

[BASF]

I also hate Mike Carey as an official, however a lot of the posters in this thread were around last season for the Packers game when a call exactly like this netted us a big gain. Sam Shields grabbed the bottom of Sidney Rice's jersey thus not allowing him to elevate and play the ball. John Gruden didn't see it and flipped out on the broadcast, but a few of us posters pointed it out and most agreed. ET did the same thing Shields did. Lets take a look:



It is the same exact deal, and once again the announcers failed to see the grabbing of the jersey that precipitated the flag. It was pass interference. At the very least it was defensive holding, but by the letter of the rule, this is interference.

 

[Hawkpower]

I also hate Mike Carey as an official, however a lot of the posters in this thread were around last season for the Packers game when a call exactly like this netted us a big gain. Sam Shields grabbed the bottom of Sidney Rice's jersey thus not allowing him to elevate and play the ball. John Gruden didn't see it and flipped out on the broadcast, but a few of us posters pointed it out and most agreed. ET did the same thing Shields did. Lets take a look:



It is the same exact deal, and once again the announcers failed to see the grabbing of the jersey that precipitated the flag. It was pass interference. At the very least it was defensive holding, but by the letter of the rule, this is interference.

I dont see Thomas grabbing the jersey.

The ref likely used "Arm bar" as his excuse to throw the flag, but if you actually watch the play, his progress wasnt impeded. Thomas' arm contact was more incidental than anything.

 

[sc85sis]

I'm not big on conspiracy theories. And even though I'm not the most optimistic person in the world, I find myself not wanting to believe a ref is deliberately trying to hose a team. I do think it's possible though that a ref has an unconscious bias that could affect his officiating. And I wouldn't be at all shocked to find that's the case with Mike Carey and the Hawks.

 

[sekiuHAWK]

Since I am not good at posting pictures I thought a Mike Carry look alike would Major Payne. Yes the guy is a Dbag. The PI on Earl was a joke. Also RW knee in OT was a horrible call. What do you have to do to show you down? Get in the fetal position? He would probably throw a flag for taunting then..

Lmao... Too funny. The sad part about this is that I could actually see this happen. Reminds me of the Hass penalty during the Super Bowl during the int after the holding call

 

[MidwestHawker]

I'm not big on conspiracy theories. And even though I'm not the most optimistic person in the world, I find myself not wanting to believe a ref is deliberately trying to hose a team. I do think it's possible though that a ref has an unconscious bias that could affect his officiating. And I wouldn't be at all shocked to find that's the case with Mike Carey and the Hawks.

Pay attention to the officiating when you see Mike Carey work non-Seahawk games and you'll see lots of incompetence there too. I don't think he's biased against us. I think he's biased toward calling games as tight as possible so that he can maximize the amount of time he gets to spend talking on the screen and feeding his own ego in the process, and if you call Seahawk games super tight you'll find a lot of penalties on our team. In 2006, he 100% screwed Cincy out of a game against Tampa when he called a completely bogus roughing the passer call against them when the Bucs were on 4th down of their last drive and had thrown an incomplete pass that would effectively end it. It has nothing to do with an anti-Seahawks grudge. He's just horrible, and it's completely inexcusable that the NFL hasn't demoted if not fired him yet.

 

[MidwestHawker]

Here's the snippet from that game:

The Bucs drove 54 yards in nine plays after a punt for the winning score. Gradkowski had a 15-yard completion to Clayton, as well as a pair of 10-yarders to Michael Pittman. But the key to the march -- as far as the Bengals were concerned -- was the roughing-the-passer call that wiped out a fumble on a sack by Bengals defensive end Justin Smith.

"I don't think I've ever seen a roughing-the-passer on a sack," Palmer said. "We all need to go see the film on that."

Yep, it was our favorite referee who made that ridiculous call too. I couldn't find it on YouTube but I remember how bad it was.

 

[cesame]

Here's the snippet from that game:

The Bucs drove 54 yards in nine plays after a punt for the winning score. Gradkowski had a 15-yard completion to Clayton, as well as a pair of 10-yarders to Michael Pittman. But the key to the march -- as far as the Bengals were concerned -- was the roughing-the-passer call that wiped out a fumble on a sack by Bengals defensive end Justin Smith.

"I don't think I've ever seen a roughing-the-passer on a sack," Palmer said. "We all need to go see the film on that."

Yep, it was our favorite referee who made that ridiculous call too. I couldn't find it on YouTube but I remember how bad it was.

Here's a different one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4utf-X0qJT0

 

[Bigpumpkin]

I'm not big on conspiracy theories. And even though I'm not the most optimistic person in the world, I find myself not wanting to believe a ref is deliberately trying to hose a team. I do think it's possible though that a ref has an unconscious bias that could affect his officiating. And I wouldn't be at all shocked to find that's the case with Mike Carey and the Hawks.

Pay attention to the officiating when you see Mike Carey work non-Seahawk games and you'll see lots of incompetence there too. I don't think he's biased against us. I think he's biased toward calling games as tight as possible so that he can maximize the amount of time he gets to spend talking on the screen and feeding his own ego in the process, and if you call Seahawk games super tight you'll find a lot of penalties on our team. In 2006, he 100% screwed Cincy out of a game against Tampa when he called a completely bogus roughing the passer call against them when the Bucs were on 4th down of their last drive and had thrown an incomplete pass that would effectively end it. It has nothing to do with an anti-Seahawks grudge. He's just horrible, and it's completely inexcusable that the NFL hasn't demoted if not fired him yet.

You left yourself "wide open" for a political retort right there!

 

[davidonmi]

I also hate Mike Carey as an official, however a lot of the posters in this thread were around last season for the Packers game when a call exactly like this netted us a big gain. Sam Shields grabbed the bottom of Sidney Rice's jersey thus not allowing him to elevate and play the ball. John Gruden didn't see it and flipped out on the broadcast, but a few of us posters pointed it out and most agreed. ET did the same thing Shields did. Lets take a look:



It is the same exact deal, and once again the announcers failed to see the grabbing of the jersey that precipitated the flag. It was pass interference. At the very least it was defensive holding, but by the letter of the rule, this is interference.

I would answer with that happens on every play, the rice call was terrible and so was that one. I was happy that they called PI on the shields at the time but I knew it wasn't a good call

 

[HawkHack]

According to the Internet Anagram Server:

MIKE CAREY = EEK AIM CRY.

I'll let you make of that what you will.

 

[TwilightError]

Has anyone got video of the ET PI?

Someone mentioned the Lockete "catch". It makes me wonder if Carey maybe is not biased but just plain incompetent?