Watson cleared by Grand Jury.

[AgentDib]

This team is not currently talented enough to where Watson would push us to be a contender. The way to build a talented team is through the draft and that's what they should be focused on.

Our problem has been that we haven't had enough draft capital to keep our roster strength up and this would be another mistake which just delays the necessary rebuild.

 

[rcaido]

Seems like Michael Jackson situation...I feel bad for Watson. i think his career & life is pretty much over.

I like Watson but if i had the choice, i would have kept Russ. Right now, Seahawks shouldn't even spend money on a QB. Just work on the defense and draft a QB.

 

[Yxes1122]

Let’s set aside the sexual assault allegations (which will always be a part of the conversation) and look at it from a football perspective:

1) The trade may cost you more than what you got back for RW. Watson is younger and Carolina is willing to sell the state to land a QB. Both teams are out of conference, Fitterer and Rhule are on the hot seat, and I think they are willing to give Watson anything he wants.

2) You’re right back to being a cash strapped team. How long has Seattle been unable to retain/acquire top end vet talent? And most of that has been laid at Russ’s feet for his cap hit.

3) You presumably traded Russ because he stopped being a good soldier. Wilson wanted to pass more and have a say in personnel. Watson started his hold out because he wanted to pick the GM. It’s welcoming back in the exact same problem.

4) He hasn’t played in a year and may still be suspended.

I get the fear of not having a franchise QB… but why would you get rid of a known quantity to get an unknown, seemingly more controversial quantity. A move like this would signal to me absolute desperation to the point of irrationality. Literally Denver would be more set up to surround Russ with a SB winning roster than Seattle can build around Watson.

It would signal to me a lack of direction and faith in their scouting, coaching, and talent development staffs. And if that is the case, we should’ve fired Pete and kept Russ.

This all coming from a pro Pete guy for a long time.

 

[Tusc2000]

Some of the same posters lambasting Watson for this were also lashing out at Russ, saying he was a two-faced PR guy. Can't win with some people, haters gonna hate.

 

[Tusc2000]

He gets to pick his destinations. I think Miami, guven they were his favorite last year, might be the frontrunner. But then again, we weren't an option for him last year.

His choice

Teams generally don't like to trade stars within their conference, although the Texans are not a good example of how a well-run FO operates.

Look for Tampa Bay to give up a lot to acquire him, they're loaded with weapons.

 

[Rat]

Putting aside all the awful things he clearly did, does it bother anyone else that Watson gave up on his last team? He was refusing to play for the Texans even before his personal life imploded and he had just finished the first year of the 4 or 5 year contract he had just signed. What do you think is going to happen if he has difficulties here? We just dealt with years of that with Russ, except Watson is less obsessed with his image and is less likely to use subtle back channels to force his way out while still trying being viewed as the good guy.

 

[Rat]

Edit: mm misread something.

 

[pmedic920]

For the record:

I think need to take a long look because he’s the best available talent, I don’t think we should over pay (money/picks).

I believe it would be stupid to give up all we got for Russ.

 

[pmedic920]

Putting aside all the awful things he clearly did, does it bother anyone else that Watson gave up on his last team? He was refusing to play for the Texans even before his personal life imploded and he had just finished the first year of the 4 or 5 year contract he had just signed. What do you think is going to happen if he has difficulties here? We just dealt with years of that with Russ, except Watson is less obsessed with his image and is less likely to use subtle back channels to force his way out while still trying being viewed as the good guy.

Just curious.

What are “all the awful things he clearly did”, in your eyes?

 

[John63]

Putting aside all the awful things he clearly did, does it bother anyone else that Watson gave up on his last team? He was refusing to play for the Texans even before his personal life imploded and he had just finished the first year of the 4 or 5 year contract he had just signed. What do you think is going to happen if he has difficulties here? We just dealt with years of that with Russ, except Watson is less obsessed with his image and is less likely to use subtle back channels to force his way out while still trying being viewed as the good guy.

and has a 40+ mil cap hit, may still get suspended, and will have a lawsuit coming or will pay off the women.

 

[bigskydoc]

While I would rather have a committed Watson than a Wandering Eyes Wilson, we simply had to give up too much to dump good old Wandering Eyes to go out and spend our limited draft capital on acquiring a known franchise QB.

Also, WEW is still taking up a big chunk of cap space.

Unless we can get Watson on the cheap (draft and dollars), I would rather roll the dice, and pick up Eric Barriere with pick 40, or 72.

Maybe his body won't hold up to the toll of the NFL. Who cares? At worst, he would be a cheap sacrificial lamb, who can hold down the spot while we build a team around him, before bringing a franchiser on board.

His upside is RG3, maybe Lamar Jackson, and that is good enough, arguably perfect, for what Pete wants to do.

 

[Tusc2000]

Putting aside all the awful things he clearly did, does it bother anyone else that Watson gave up on his last team? He was refusing to play for the Texans even before his personal life imploded and he had just finished the first year of the 4 or 5 year contract he had just signed. What do you think is going to happen if he has difficulties here? We just dealt with years of that with Russ, except Watson is less obsessed with his image and is less likely to use subtle back channels to force his way out while still trying being viewed as the good guy.

Tbh, I'm less concerned about all that. Pete is used to coaching a myriad of different and difficult personalities and making it work -- at least for a while. The Texans' coaching staff? Eh, not so much.

 

[Mizak]

Miami, Carolina, Tampa Bay, Seattle………… out of the four, which one makes the most sense to Watson, who has a no trade clause?

 

[massari]

Miami, Carolina, Tampa Bay, Seattle………… out of the four, which one makes the most sense to Watson, who has a no trade clause?

Not sure how the Bucs could afford Watson unless they pull a rabbit out of the hat like the Rams when they got Stafford and others last offseason

Miami and TB are probably his top 2 choices, and it's doubtful he'd ever want to play for Carroll

 

[Rat]

Miami, Carolina, Tampa Bay, Seattle………… out of the four, which one makes the most sense to Watson, who has a no trade clause?

It sounded like the Miami interest was more of a connection with Brian Flores. I don't know that the new guys there are going to want to deal with that. I don't see how Carolina could possibly afford him without gutting their whole team, thanks to other poor QB decisions they've made. Tampa would have to be the most attractive situation, but can they realistically pay him? I guess possibly, teams can usually find ways to get under the cap if they really need to.

I'm worried we're going to be the last ones standing with this. I'd rather trade for Tua if Watson ends up in Miami. He'd be an excellent buy low candidate.

 

[John63]

So he was not cleared they chose not to prosecute. Huge diference. Cleared would be them coming out and saying he is cleared, or him getting tried and found not guily. They can still go back and try him if they find more info or want to. That is not cleared.

 

[John63]

Miami, Carolina, Tampa Bay, Seattle………… out of the four, which one makes the most sense to Watson, who has a no trade clause?

It sounded like the Miami interest was more of a connection with Brian Flores. I don't know that the new guys there are going to want to deal with that. I don't see how Carolina could possibly afford him without gutting their whole team, thanks to other poor QB decisions they've made. Tampa would have to be the most attractive situation, but can they realistically pay him? I guess possibly, teams can usually find ways to get under the cap if they really need to.

I'm worried we're going to be the last ones standing with this. I'd rather trade for Tua if Watson ends up in Miami. He'd be an excellent buy low candidate.

40+ mil cap hit, has not played in over a year, and despite what some think at least Wilson was willing to play. Watson just said no I am not playing. Add to that probable lawsuit coming, and who knows if they decide to prosecute him later when they have more info or worse he comes here and does the same thing.

 

[pmedic920]

So he was not cleared they chose not to prosecute. Huge diference. Cleared would be them coming out and saying he is cleared, or him getting tried and found not guily. They can still go back and try him if they find more info or want to. That is not cleared.

Correct but you need to keep in mind, the “they” you speak of is a Grand Jury.


It’s not like the “they” is some hometown or corrupt police dept.

 

[massari]

We got no chance at him. Time to move on.

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[Elemas]

I can’t fathom how some of you “we need a game manager” folks are now wanting Watson? Like PC, you’re just….

Whatever.