Vrabel & Russini

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Sucks that Russini loses her job and Vrabel basically has no consequences barring a couple of days away.

Doubt anymore happens unless more comes out soon and it's damning. At some point it becomes a major distraction.
 

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Wow, such a lot of ink spilled over an NFL coach having an affair. The compulsive need to put people down so they are humbled by their marital foibles is a sad byproduct of a puritanical society.

I suspect Vrabel will have more fallout than the gotcha media has already piled on.
 
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This story wouldn't be nearly as big of a deal if he was cheating with a flight attendant or a waitress. Like I said before, the adultery is only half the story. We hear about it all the time with famous people and it usually blows over quickly. But the fact that an NFL head coach was banging an NFL insider makes it a huge deal. He could be accused of media manipulation and obviously the career advantages she must have gained from sleeping with Vrabel (and perhaps other prominent figures) is very troubling. She is a cheater in every sense of the word.
 

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Wow, such a lot of ink spilled over an NFL coach having an affair. The compulsive need to put people down so they are humbled by their marital foibles is a sad byproduct of a puritanical society.

I suspect Vrabel will have more fallout than the gotcha media has already piled on.
Or it's the offseason and there's not much to talk about in Dullsville.
 

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This story wouldn't be nearly as big of a deal if he was cheating with a flight attendant or a waitress. Like I said before, the adultery is only half the story. We hear about it all the time with famous people and it usually blows over quickly. But the fact that an NFL head coach was banging an NFL insider makes it a huge deal. He could be accused of media manipulation and obviously the career advantages she must have gained from sleeping with Vrabel (and perhaps other prominent figures) is very troubling. She is a cheater in every sense of the word.
Bingo!

It's a huge conflict of interest that is absent in other occupations. That's why the NYT suspended Russini as soon as the story broke and quite likely why she quit, ie to avoid getting fired.
 

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Bingo!

It's a huge conflict of interest that is absent in other occupations. That's why the NYT suspended Russini as soon as the story broke and quite likely why she quit, ie to avoid getting fired.
Really only a moral dilemma on her side. She essentially prostituted herself in exchange for information. The conflict of interest is on his side. He gave up protected employer information for personal gain.
 

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Really only a moral dilemma on her side. She essentially prostituted herself in exchange for information. The conflict of interest is on his side. He gave up protected employer information for personal gain.
I agree that there is a huge moral dilemma on Russini's part in that she basically exchanged sex for access to a subject of her reporting.

However, there is also an ethical conflict between Russini's interests and that of her employer. Her employer demands out of their employee's commendable business ethics in pursuit of their reporting, that they won't offer gifts, services, or other forms of unauthorized compensation, especially that in which their competitors don't have access to, in order to leverage an advantage over their competitors.

By engaging in a romantic relationship with an NFL head coach, Russini was exercising her sex/looks/charm, or whatever in order to gain an advantage over her competitors. It's no different than if she knew someone on an admission board at Harvard and got them to accept Vrabel's son.

The NYT requires journalists to avoid any situation that could compromise independence — or even look like it might. This includes personal relationships with sources, gifts, favors, or anything that could bias reporting.

 
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I agree that there is a huge moral dilemma on Russini's part in that she basically exchanged sex for access to a subject of her reporting.

However, there is also an ethical conflict between Russini's interests and that of her employer. Her employer demands out of their employee's commendable business ethics in pursuit of their reporting, that they won't offer gifts, services, or other forms of unauthorized compensation, especially that in which their competitors don't have access to, in order to leverage an advantage over their competitors.

By engaging in a romantic relationship with an NFL head coach, Russini was exercising her sex/looks/charm, or whatever in order to gain an advantage over her competitors. It's no different than if she knew someone on an admission board at Harvard and got them to accept Vrabel's son.

The NYT requires journalists to avoid any situation that could compromise independence — or even look like it might. This includes personal relationships with sources, gifts, favors, or anything that could bias reporting.

I think you mean they expect their employees to not get caught. Kind of a mission impossible situation. Do what you need to do to get the story but we will disavow and fire you if you get caught.
 

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I think you mean they expect their employees to not get caught. Kind of a mission impossible situation. Do what you need to do to get the story but we will disavow and fire you if you get caught.
Yeah, everything is legal if you don't get caught.

The New York Times has been in business for 173 years. They are arguably one of the most trusted news organizations in the country if not the world. They're not going to risk their reputation and credibility by allowing their reporters to collect information by sleeping with their subjects.
 
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