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Unlikely, considering FO history, but if they did, do you see anyone enticing enough they just might do it?
Natethegreat":ei5sk27h said:You guys act like a receiver has never improved before. I distinctly remember Tate struggling with rout running for a while and didn't Kearse have the dropsies as well? I absolutely guarantee KB will not last past the first round with the potential he has. The fact we even have a shot at him at 32 is a testament to how strong the draft class is for receivers this year(and overall really).
I would be ecstatic if he lasted to our pick and I imagine Pete and John would be too(especially considering how much Pete likes receivers like him). In fact I think this might be the year we would make a move to go get the receiver they want. It not like they have been afraid to make a move for someone they like before( Harvin).
Natethegreat":7dpgqlhn said:Bottom line is its a chance to get top shelf talent with the last pick in the first(assuming he lasts which is doubtful anyway). A man with his talents won't last till the second let alone the third round mentioned earlier thats just absurd. You can pick up good lineman interior lineman late into the draft however its far tougher to pick up elite receivers with the kind of measurables he has.
drrew":2qp8wvkf said:Natethegreat":2qp8wvkf said:Bottom line is its a chance to get top shelf talent with the last pick in the first(assuming he lasts which is doubtful anyway). A man with his talents won't last till the second let alone the third round mentioned earlier thats just absurd. You can pick up good lineman interior lineman late into the draft however its far tougher to pick up elite receivers with the kind of measurables he has.
I don't care too much about measurables, I care about production, and if you look at the top ten NFL receivers this past season, while you have your early first round picks in Calvin Johnson and AJ Green you also have the following
Antonio Brown 6th rd 195th pick
Alshon Jeffery 2nd rd 45th pick
Brandon Marshall 4th rd 119th pick
Vincent Jackson 2nd rd 61st pick
It is not 'far tougher' to pick up an elite receiver than it is an elite lineman early in the draft. Brandon Marshall and Vincent Jackson are every bit the extreme size WR that Benjamin can only dream of becoming, and they went 119th and 61st respectively.
To me, Kelvin Benjamin screams Jonathan Baldwin, and that's not a player I waste a roster spot let alone a draft pick on.
ImTheScientist":1lkv6594 said:Will you now please point to the number of first round WRs that are impact guys in the last 10 years? Not really fair to point out a few instances of it happening. Fact is a 1st round WR is more likely to be a stud than a 2nd, 4th, or 6th round guy.
Look they have 7 rounds for a reason. We can all pick out late round prospects that turned out very well. The fact still remains that every GM out there values elite receivers higher than elite interior lineman. You don't see a whole lot of guards and centers being snatched up in the first round for a reason.drrew":20ql25aq said:Natethegreat":20ql25aq said:Bottom line is its a chance to get top shelf talent with the last pick in the first(assuming he lasts which is doubtful anyway). A man with his talents won't last till the second let alone the third round mentioned earlier thats just absurd. You can pick up good lineman interior lineman late into the draft however its far tougher to pick up elite receivers with the kind of measurables he has.
I don't care too much about measurables, I care about production, and if you look at the top ten NFL receivers this past season, while you have your early first round picks in Calvin Johnson and AJ Green you also have the following
Antonio Brown 6th rd 195th pick
Alshon Jeffery 2nd rd 45th pick
Brandon Marshall 4th rd 119th pick
Vincent Jackson 2nd rd 61st pick
It is not 'far tougher' to pick up an elite receiver than it is an elite lineman early in the draft. Brandon Marshall and Vincent Jackson are every bit the extreme size WR that Benjamin can only dream of becoming, and they went 119th and 61st respectively.
To me, Kelvin Benjamin screams Jonathan Baldwin, and that's not a player I waste a roster spot let alone a draft pick on.
Mr.Hawkbrah":25css0kq said:Idk about trading up only cause we need Draft Capitol for cheap rookies but how about another "reach"... Let's say kb goes too early and we pick up Coleman who could go in the 50s.
Attyla the Hawk":3r7y9jxr said:Mr.Hawkbrah":3r7y9jxr said:Idk about trading up only cause we need Draft Capitol for cheap rookies but how about another "reach"... Let's say kb goes too early and we pick up Coleman who could go in the 50s.
Agreed. I don't like the lack of picks later.
But I also don't regard players as being reaches, if it's expected that we can't get him with our next available pick. All teams have different needs and players don't go simply by some assumed ranking. If Coleman is a late 40s early 50s overall kind of guy, and we like him a lot -- then taking him at 32 if we have to isn't really a reach.
Mr.Hawkbrah":282y3ot8 said:I've warmed up to trading back but sometimes I think they try to get too cute and would prefer to get exactly what they want and not risk it. Clearly I'm in no position to judge what they do though.
And I totally agree on your reaching explanation, I put that in quotes so certain other people in this thread spared me their insight.