This Week's Enemy Fan Forums: The Green Bay Packers

[kearly]

Their offense scares me not one iota. Rodgers is a good QB, but he's a statue back there, and their o-line still isn't great.

Yeah, Rodgers was real mobile the last time you guys played here.....to the tune of 9 sacks. Nice try tho.

Rodgers is definitely not a statue in the pocket, he's one of the more mobile QBs in the league. The reason he's had high sack numbers in the past was because, just like Russell Wilson, he holds the ball longer than anyone else while playing behind horrid protection.

However, since the last time Seattle faced Green Bay, their pass protection has improved dramatically. They now have one of the better young O-lines in the NFL. They also have added a RB worth giving a crap about, which will also help Rodgers avoid sacks.

If Seattle sacks Rodgers five times, I would say our defense played a hell of a game.

 

[kpak76]

The 2012 Hawks/Packers game was all Seahawks, .

All Seahawks? It was a pretty tight game and the Packers had the lead in the 4th. We all know how it ended.

Yes we did, Tate with a game winning TD.

Happens when the reciever gets possesion and has his feet hit the ground before the defender (who was still in the air when Tate set his feet). Anyway you look at it, there was not enough evidence to overturn the original call whether it was a TD or a pick anyways. This part will be overlooked by you and yours of course.

 

[kpak76]

So Apparently, Lynch is a wanna be pretender and Lacy is the real deal... Huh Good to know... i would guess the Packer players are not thinking the same as the fans. but i found this comment entertaining to say the least and pretty much somes up the packer fan knowledge of the Seahawks. None.

Compare the starting RB's for each team.

On one side you have an entitled, arrogant, Ferrari-driving prima-donna whose reputation as a physical runner, in my opinion, is drastically overstated. The vast majority of his highlights from last season feature him taking advantage of a TON of missed tackles. Very few showed him actually running guys over.

On the other side, you have a young, up-and-coming guy who plays with a chip on his shoulder not only for himself, but for his family, who was forced to move into a trailer after Hurricane Katrina, not to mention the fact that his career thus far has been overshadowed by that of the aforementioned prima-donna. Oh yea and unlike prima-donna, this guy likes to knock down anyone who gets in his way.


I'm just spit-balling.

I hope Lacy runs for 100+ yds on Thursday.

Just the fact that the poster there is basing his analysis on highlights just tells you everything you need to know about that post right there.

 

[kpak76]

So Apparently, Lynch is a wanna be pretender and Lacy is the real deal... Huh Good to know... i would guess the Packer players are not thinking the same as the fans. but i found this comment entertaining to say the least and pretty much somes up the packer fan knowledge of the Seahawks. None.

Compare the starting RB's for each team.

On one side you have an entitled, arrogant, Ferrari-driving prima-donna whose reputation as a physical runner, in my opinion, is drastically overstated. The vast majority of his highlights from last season feature him taking advantage of a TON of missed tackles. Very few showed him actually running guys over.

On the other side, you have a young, up-and-coming guy who plays with a chip on his shoulder not only for himself, but for his family, who was forced to move into a trailer after Hurricane Katrina, not to mention the fact that his career thus far has been overshadowed by that of the aforementioned prima-donna. Oh yea and unlike prima-donna, this guy likes to knock down anyone who gets in his way.


I'm just spit-balling.

I hope Lacy runs for 100+ yds on Thursday.

You can't take what one or a few fans say and hold it up as a majority opinion. I doubt most Packers fans really feel that way about Lynch. It's like the guy a few posts back that said Rodgers was a statue in the pocket.....he is a very mobile quarterback anyone that watches football knows that. However, I will not hold his opinion as the opinion of Seahawks fans, because I think most of them do realize the truth about that. In that way I hope you realize that a lot of Packers fans(myself included) realize that Lynch is a great back, and have respect for his ability.

Yeah, Rodgers was real mobile the last time you guys played here.....to the tune of 9 sacks. Nice try tho.

Actually, ARods mobiltiy is very underrated. Sure he's no escape wizard like Wilson but he does move around a lot, and he can gash you if you let him with his legs also. He is not a statue as someone earler tried to point out. He is very much a mobile QB that excells in the pocket. If you wanted to build the perfect prototypical NFL QB you would most likely build ARod.

 

[kpak76]

I'll agree that Rogers is more mobile than folks will give him credit for, he's shifty and buys just enough time in the pocket like say Big Ben.

However i didn't come to my conclusion based on one post, i read all opposing teams boards including GB's, well before the links were posted here, i've been reading crap like this for months, along with our interior D line is soft, and RW is probably the games best Game Manager, all you have to do is keep him in the pocket... blah blah blah. It's obvious Pack fans don't tune into a lot of Seahawk games...

To be fair to Packer fans, no one knows the truth about RW. Its because idiot national writers like Prisco keeps beating the game manager drum and your average NFL fan takes them for their word because they don't have the time or the capabilty to watch all the NFL games. What these fans dont realize is that neither does the writers and they are mostly basing their analysis off the box scores which is a pitiful way to evaluate the NFL.

 

[PackerNation]

To be fair to Packer fans, no one knows the truth about RW.

You do know that Russell Wilson was a Badger, right? As in, The Wisconsin Badgers. A lot of Packer fans also happen to be Badger fans as well.

We know all about Russell Wilson and how good he is. It's not a big secret or anything. A lot of us have been following him since his college days and even watching him and other Badgers (like J.J. Watt) since they went to their new respective teams in the NFL.

The only surprise for me was how fast he secured the starting job and how well he came out of the gate. I always thought this guy had NFL talent and he does not disappoint. I liked him better than RG3 because Wilson is smarter and does not put his body through unnecessary abuse. He knows how to use his offensive weapons, when to run and when to slide.

We will have to see what Capers has lined up to keep Wilson and the offense at bay. I suspect Clay Matthews will be coming after him all night long.

 

[wissportstalk]

Greetings Seahawk fans ! Another link for your collection http://wisconsinsportstalk.com/index.php

We talk about everything from Packers to Badgers and Brewers.


Just a couple notes on the game GB is going to have a tough time with Seattle's defensive speed however if Rodgers can catch the switch from man press to cover 3 and capitalize we might give you a run for your money.

Always tough to come into Seattle and play.... believe we will give you a battle though. Best of luck and hope both teams come out healthy. :229031_cheers:

 

[Laloosh]

Greetings Seahawk fans ! Another link for your collection http://wisconsinsportstalk.com/index.php

We talk about everything from Packers to Badgers and Brewers.


Just a couple notes on the game GB is going to have a tough time with Seattle's defensive speed however if Rodgers can catch the switch from man press to cover 3 and capitalize we might give you a run for your money.

Always tough to come into Seattle and play.... believe we will give you a battle though. Best of luck and hope both teams come out healthy. :229031_cheers:

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Question: (see below) Seriously?

Re: Official Week 1 Green Bay vs Seattle Thread
« Reply #17 on: Today at 08:50:22 AM »
I really think this game comes down to how the refs call the game. If they call it tight like they did all pre-season, the Seattle secondary will have more difficulty with the passing game than the Packers. The entire rule enforcement emphasis is because of how physical they play and how much down field contact they use to gain the advantage. The Packers run game is much improved and the passing game is without question one of the best in the game.

http://wisconsinsportstalk.com/index.ph ... 66.15.html

 

[Polaris]

Greetings Seahawk fans ! Another link for your collection http://wisconsinsportstalk.com/index.php

We talk about everything from Packers to Badgers and Brewers.


Just a couple notes on the game GB is going to have a tough time with Seattle's defensive speed however if Rodgers can catch the switch from man press to cover 3 and capitalize we might give you a run for your money.

Always tough to come into Seattle and play.... believe we will give you a battle though. Best of luck and hope both teams come out healthy. :229031_cheers:

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Question: (see below) Seriously?

Re: Official Week 1 Green Bay vs Seattle Thread
« Reply #17 on: Today at 08:50:22 AM »
I really think this game comes down to how the refs call the game. If they call it tight like they did all pre-season, the Seattle secondary will have more difficulty with the passing game than the Packers. The entire rule enforcement emphasis is because of how physical they play and how much down field contact they use to gain the advantage. The Packers run game is much improved and the passing game is without question one of the best in the game.

http://wisconsinsportstalk.com/index.ph ... 66.15.html

Indeed did Packer Nation (or the Nation as a whole) miss the fact that during the preseason, the big, bad, mauling Legion of Boom wasn't flagged once for defensive holding (and I don't think they were flagged for PI either but I might have missed one....at the very least they were flagged the least in the league)?

 

[Kaiser]

Rodgers got sacked 8 times last time they played at the clink. that was before avril and bennett were here. discount double check your helmet and flak jacket for this one aaron pedostache.

 

[kearly]

Indeed did Packer Nation (or the Nation as a whole) miss the fact that during the preseason, the big, bad, mauling Legion of Boom wasn't flagged once for defensive holding (and I don't think they were flagged for PI either but I might have missed one....at the very least they were flagged the least in the league)?

The LOB gave up quite a few yards and TDs though. I think the Packers fan was making a reference to defensive decline in the secondary in the new passing environment, rather than referring to penalties. And I think he's 100% right.

 

[Laloosh]

Indeed did Packer Nation (or the Nation as a whole) miss the fact that during the preseason, the big, bad, mauling Legion of Boom wasn't flagged once for defensive holding (and I don't think they were flagged for PI either but I might have missed one....at the very least they were flagged the least in the league)?

The LOB gave up quite a few yards and TDs though. I think the Packers fan was making a reference to defensive decline in the secondary in the new passing environment, rather than referring to penalties. And I think he's 100% right.

He also said that our secondary would have a harder time than theirs would. That's what made me wince...

 

[kpak76]

To be fair to Packer fans, no one knows the truth about RW.

You do know that Russell Wilson was a Badger, right? As in, The Wisconsin Badgers. A lot of Packer fans also happen to be Badger fans as well.

We know all about Russell Wilson and how good he is. It's not a big secret or anything. A lot of us have been following him since his college days and even watching him and other Badgers (like J.J. Watt) since they went to their new respective teams in the NFL.

The only surprise for me was how fast he secured the starting job and how well he came out of the gate. I always thought this guy had NFL talent and he does not disappoint. I liked him better than RG3 because Wilson is smarter and does not put his body through unnecessary abuse. He knows how to use his offensive weapons, when to run and when to slide.

We will have to see what Capers has lined up to keep Wilson and the offense at bay. I suspect Clay Matthews will be coming after him all night long.

Ok, I'll take it back. There are a good number of you who knows a little about Wilson. However going to your fans MB, I've seen the term "game manager" in a derogatory way, thrown out to describe him more than once. A good number of you dont know Russell Wilson still.

 

[MizzouHawkGal]

Indeed did Packer Nation (or the Nation as a whole) miss the fact that during the preseason, the big, bad, mauling Legion of Boom wasn't flagged once for defensive holding (and I don't think they were flagged for PI either but I might have missed one....at the very least they were flagged the least in the league)?

The LOB gave up quite a few yards and TDs though. I think the Packers fan was making a reference to defensive decline in the secondary in the new passing environment, rather than referring to penalties. And I think he's 100% right.

Unless they were rope a doping which I believe is true.

 

[Laloosh]

Indeed did Packer Nation (or the Nation as a whole) miss the fact that during the preseason, the big, bad, mauling Legion of Boom wasn't flagged once for defensive holding (and I don't think they were flagged for PI either but I might have missed one....at the very least they were flagged the least in the league)?

The LOB gave up quite a few yards and TDs though. I think the Packers fan was making a reference to defensive decline in the secondary in the new passing environment, rather than referring to penalties. And I think he's 100% right.

Unless they were rope a doping which I believe is true.

When Sherm took his eyes off of the receiver and was beaten for a 15 yard pickup twice against CHI, I didn't get the impression that he did it on purpose. Maybe a little rust but he was just trying to avoid being beaten deep from what I could tell.

I think it goes w/out saying that every team will have a harder time covering receivers. I just think it's absurd that people think it turns our top ranked secondary into a middle of the pack or sub-par secondary, which was implied in that post I quoted.

 

[Polaris]

Indeed did Packer Nation (or the Nation as a whole) miss the fact that during the preseason, the big, bad, mauling Legion of Boom wasn't flagged once for defensive holding (and I don't think they were flagged for PI either but I might have missed one....at the very least they were flagged the least in the league)?

The LOB gave up quite a few yards and TDs though. I think the Packers fan was making a reference to defensive decline in the secondary in the new passing environment, rather than referring to penalties. And I think he's 100% right.

Marshall is a darn good receiver, and when the LOB was playing, Chicago's vaunted offense scored all of zero points. That's the third preseason game and it was being played at the Clink and thus IMO the most indicative.

As for the last one (Raiders), in a way I'm happy it happened because it was a healthy reality check, but in truth Seattle simply played badly that day, and most of our people were sitting that day (and those that were on defense had a bad day) and the Raiders played very well...and it wasn't in Seattle.

I would also point out that compared with the rest of the league (and this is the point in question) the LoB was affected the least.

 

[themunn]

Indeed did Packer Nation (or the Nation as a whole) miss the fact that during the preseason, the big, bad, mauling Legion of Boom wasn't flagged once for defensive holding (and I don't think they were flagged for PI either but I might have missed one....at the very least they were flagged the least in the league)?

The LOB gave up quite a few yards and TDs though. I think the Packers fan was making a reference to defensive decline in the secondary in the new passing environment, rather than referring to penalties. And I think he's 100% right.

We played last year's 1st, 4th and 5th ranked passing attacks, and by my reckoning, gave up 0 passing TDs in the first half of those 3 games, and 1 rushing TD - in a game that Chancellor, Wagner, Smith and Irvin all sat out.

If you want to worry about the yards given up against Oakland be my guest, but don't forget that Matt Schaub was the only player to put up more than 300 yards against the LoB in 19 games in 2013 (355 yards). What does that mean? Nowt.

 

[chris98251]

I think we were playing off and zone all pre season to work on it and position, I also think it was as KC Girl says a sort of rope a dope, don't give the league a bunch of ammunition to justify a rule focus that was put into place because of us, we are a physical defense and didn't play that way pre season but did in practice. We come out with bump and run and clean up hits on receptions to send a message. Not being in the headlines all pre season and not being foremost in penalties during the pre season should make less focus I hope on us and flags.

 

[BlueTalon]

This game won't be close... Once again, this is a team that has no idea what they're walking into. Just as the Broncos found out 7 months ago - they're walking right into a buzzsaw.

This is what I think also.

 

[Seahwkgal]

I had fun reading through these posts. The one thing that many Packer fans don't seem to realize is our best weapon is on his 3rd year and 20xs better than the one in the game they can't let go of. Our best weapon has many weapons of his own that Fudgepacker(well, I might as well start name calling since all I see from them is sea-hag and sea-chicken-figured I would get that out of the way) fans don't seem to regard. I am sure they are all aware of Percy but they will be introduced to Kearse. Being from Wisconsin, I cannot believe that more Fudgers aren't well aware of how dangerous DangeRuss is.
The wake-up call will happen Thursday night.