This is what happens with Balance

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John63":snvc3hqj said:
tersal":snvc3hqj said:
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This is what happens with balance on O...they need that run game...

This is the start of the defensive turn around...

The coaching staff should be commended on the job they did coaching up Flowers and Reed..


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Agreed teams were blitzing the Hawks like crazy pass protection has never been a strength for the hawks the last eight or nine years. The best way to slow down a pass rush is to run the ball effectively. Let Russ cook was fun now it is time to get back to balance on offense.

You still dont get it. It was not just the Rbs injuries it wa s a change the game scheme..

Last night

Quick passing
moving the pocket
Wilson running early
screens
changing tempo
changing when they snap it

The prior 4 games none of those thighs were happening.

As to let Russ Cook you do realize if not for 2 Dk drops Wilson has about 300 yards and 4 tds that is cooking, and hate to tell you that will not change, and FYI without letting Rush Cook we do not win those 5 games. Also, FYI Wilson is avg 35 pass attempts per game, last year it was 32 not much of a difference is it now.

even this last game that you are saying is a reason for balance. Not really balanced, 31 rush attempts, but 10 were by Wilson and not designed runs. SO that means 21 actual called run plays and 38 actual called pass plays. not totally balanced. It is not just about balance it is about doing enough that they have to respect the run game, this slows them up enough to help our Oline pass block.

Do you have anything to quantify your claim of a full shift to a quicker scheme? Russell Wilson's time to throw was 3.05 seconds, slightly above his average of 2.96 for the year. You're going against your introductory post by relying solely on the eye test here.
 

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John63":1rnbeylz said:
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Bmore covered it quite nicely.

I marveled at some of the bombs in the shootout games but honestly I wasn’t excited so much as dreadful, knowing we’d live or die on one stop and one bomb at the end, and knowing we were the Falcons/Saints - teams that garner offensive accolades and get smoked in the divisional round by teams with NFL defenses.

I was more excited in the first quarter if this game than I had been all season.

When I saw flowers in tighter coverage I raised an eyebrow. When he made plays in that coverage my heart started speeding up.

When I saw Dunlap get home I pumped my fist and nodded sagely. When I saw collier get home I laughed out loud and grinned and thought hey we might have something.

KJ breaking down and smothering a Murray run.

Finally, when Hyde busted through a good hole for 10 or 15 with a third string center out there I said to myself hey this is fun again. The team Im watching has every bit the shot at glory this year as any other team.

It was one game. But that’s one game more of solid, non-embarrassing defense and run right at you offense than we’ve seen all season. Have to start with that.

Knowing Pete, this is how he wants to play. So I have hope we’ll see more of it. And Russ may have enjoyed cooking but he didn’t enjoy his last few outings of throwing the ball to the other team, so I think he may just say to himself yeah, okay, this is better. I can still get my 300 and 3 TDS and limit risk and WIN

Yeah don't agree what we saw was a return to the game plan of the first 5 games. IF DK does not drop 2 passes Wilson has close to if not over 300 yards and 3-4 tds. We saw screens, quick passing, QB running early, moving the pocket and tempo changing, snap changing offense like the first 5 games. Why they got away from it who knows, hopefully they stick with it now.
Inaccurate. The first 5 games we did not run the ball with nearly as much frequency.

Whatever other adjustments were made, a running game is the reason Wilson wasn't pressing and throwing to the wrong colored jerseys.
 

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hawk45":1ww2ij2y said:
John63":1ww2ij2y said:
hawk45":1ww2ij2y said:
Bmore covered it quite nicely.

I marveled at some of the bombs in the shootout games but honestly I wasn’t excited so much as dreadful, knowing we’d live or die on one stop and one bomb at the end, and knowing we were the Falcons/Saints - teams that garner offensive accolades and get smoked in the divisional round by teams with NFL defenses.

I was more excited in the first quarter if this game than I had been all season.

When I saw flowers in tighter coverage I raised an eyebrow. When he made plays in that coverage my heart started speeding up.

When I saw Dunlap get home I pumped my fist and nodded sagely. When I saw collier get home I laughed out loud and grinned and thought hey we might have something.

KJ breaking down and smothering a Murray run.

Finally, when Hyde busted through a good hole for 10 or 15 with a third string center out there I said to myself hey this is fun again. The team Im watching has every bit the shot at glory this year as any other team.

It was one game. But that’s one game more of solid, non-embarrassing defense and run right at you offense than we’ve seen all season. Have to start with that.

Knowing Pete, this is how he wants to play. So I have hope we’ll see more of it. And Russ may have enjoyed cooking but he didn’t enjoy his last few outings of throwing the ball to the other team, so I think he may just say to himself yeah, okay, this is better. I can still get my 300 and 3 TDS and limit risk and WIN

Yeah don't agree what we saw was a return to the game plan of the first 5 games. IF DK does not drop 2 passes Wilson has close to if not over 300 yards and 3-4 tds. We saw screens, quick passing, QB running early, moving the pocket and tempo changing, snap changing offense like the first 5 games. Why they got away from it who knows, hopefully they stick with it now.
Inaccurate. The first 5 games we did not run the ball with nearly as much frequency.

Whatever other adjustments were made, a running game is the reason Wilson wasn't pressing and throwing to the wrong colored jerseys.
In correct in the first 5 games we avg 19 carries per game without Wilson's. In this game we had 21 without Wilson. As I said a return to the game plan of the first 5 games.
 

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To me the difference was our line on both sides of the ball beat the water out of them. Thats what won the game.
It seems we threw more short passes than we did in any game this year but it still comes down to turnovers and winning in the trenches.
 

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tersal":29bvizde said:
LTH":29bvizde said:
This is what happens with balance on O...they need that run game...

This is the start of the defensive turn around...

The coaching staff should be commended on the job they did coaching up Flowers and Reed..


LTH
Agreed teams were blitzing the Hawks like crazy pass protection has never been a strength for the hawks the last eight or nine years. The best way to slow down a pass rush is to run the ball effectively. Let Russ cook was fun now it is time to get back to balance on offense.
The thing is, Russ can still “cook” on offense. He has more control than ever at the LOS now that he and Schotty are in their third year of working together. And he has as good of a WR combo as anyone with DK and Tyler. Add in the catch ability of our RBs and TEs and he still has plenty of weapons at his disposal.
 
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