The Return of Richard Sherman

[Russ Willstrong]

I suppose, I will cheer him on if I must....even in his whiners costume...
In which case I hope he retires a 49er... as thats what he wants.
Maybe he'll play long enough he enters HOF as 49er...
I bet those Twilightzone fans even plan to build their own Sherm statue of "The Tip" outside Levi stadium. Im sure he'll give them their version "the shaft" too.
Please Richard, make this happen. You clearly are better at life than anyone... Dilly! Dilly!

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Very rarely does a credentialed member of the media (beat writer, local or nationally respected reporter) just make something up.

With these stories IMO it's where there's smoke there's fire.

Bottom line, there's a reason Pete and John cleaned house of certain players, and kept others.......and it wasn't 100% talent/cap related. So if you think it's 100% attitude, or 5%, there's still a percentage to assign that the players that are no longer here contributed to their own demise in Seattle with less then amazing attitudes about the direction of the team.

They like to take words out of context that's why Lynch didn't want to talk to the media. they will spin it the way they want to. Look what they did w/ Earl & just went down from there.

Speaking of Earl, if it was about attitude why was he still w/ the Seahawks? They would have shipped him out with the rest of the team. Could it be because Sherman was coming off an injury...Same for Bennett..

We spent an entire off season and up until Earl got hurt trying to ship him out.......and he hasn't been seen in or around the team since.

Should tell you everything you need to know.

Is that fact or assumption? Far as i can tell Schneider/Carol wanted him this season. Earl wanted a new contract or be traded to team that is willing to do it. Unfortunately he got hurt.

Yes Earl wanted an extension, and we weren't going to oblige. Thus all the trade talks, even up until the weekend he got hurt when Kansas City jumped into the mix.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/the-aftermath ... ore-injury

Not sure why you don't think we wanted to trade Earl........when there were literally dozens of reports before the draft, during the draft and up until he got hurt we were trying to trade him.

All lies? We just loved us some Earl complaining and wanted him here?

Like Mike Tomlin said about Bell, we want volunteers, not hostages. Earl didn't want to be here, and we were trying to oblige him.

If you don't believe me, why isn't he here helping out the team like Kam? Dude hasn't been seen since his injury.

 

[pittpnthrs]

If you don't believe me, why isn't he here helping out the team like Kam? Dude hasn't been seen since his injury.

Because he is bitter towards the FO. They wouldnt pay him what he wanted and they didnt let him go because they couldnt get what they wanted. I'm siding with the FO for sure, but I dont believe they did whatever they could to get rid of him either. It was greed on both sides and now neither side will get anything. Everybody lost.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

If you don't believe me, why isn't he here helping out the team like Kam? Dude hasn't been seen since his injury.

Because he is bitter towards the FO. They wouldnt pay him what he wanted and they didnt let him go because they couldnt get what they wanted. I'm siding with the FO for sure, but I dont believe they did whatever they could to get rid of him either. It was greed on both sides and now neither side will get anything. Everybody lost.

I know that, you know that.

rcaido's the one who think we loved us some Earl and wanted him here, and everything was hunky dory.

Everybody did lose, you're right. Hopefully like Sherm, time will heal these wounds and everyone can come back in time and be appreciated and part of the organization, at least celebratory.

 

[Seymour]

If you don't believe me, why isn't he here helping out the team like Kam? Dude hasn't been seen since his injury.

Because he is bitter towards the FO. They wouldnt pay him what he wanted and they didnt let him go because they couldnt get what they wanted. I'm siding with the FO for sure, but I dont believe they did whatever they could to get rid of him either. It was greed on both sides and now neither side will get anything. Everybody lost.

I would not call it greed by the Seahawks. If your car books for $5,000 and is in good condition is that really greed to expect no less than $4,000 for it?

That is all the Seahawks were doing with Earl.
Nobody would take the deal because Earl got in his (and our) own damn way with that Cowboys stunt and his lofty wage demands.

 

[rcaido]

If you don't believe me, why isn't he here helping out the team like Kam? Dude hasn't been seen since his injury.

Because he is bitter towards the FO. They wouldnt pay him what he wanted and they didnt let him go because they couldnt get what they wanted. I'm siding with the FO for sure, but I dont believe they did whatever they could to get rid of him either. It was greed on both sides and now neither side will get anything. Everybody lost.

I know that, you know that.

rcaido's the one who think we loved us some Earl and wanted him here, and everything was hunky dory.

Everybody did lose, you're right. Hopefully like Sherm, time will heal these wounds and everyone can come back in time and be appreciated and part of the organization, at least celebratory.

That is how you viewed it. I viewed it as the FO wanted to keep Earl until the end of the season when his "contract ended". Then decide to retain him or let him go. If they wanted him gone they would have traded him before the season started without all the distraction. Just like what you supposedly imply w/ Sherman & Bennett.

They knew his value so decided to keep him. I think the way the team started & how Earl was killing it teams started offering more worth then to keep him so they entertain the trade talks.

This doesn't mean he was a cancer to the locker room. It was just business. The same for Sherman & Bennett. They didn't clean house because of attitude it was due to salary/age/injury/unknown

 

[Mad Dog]

Carroll anticipated a warm welcome for Sherman on Sunday.

"I think he's loved around here for all the great stuff that he did," Carroll said, adding that Sherman "did a lot of great stuff here. I don't think our fans think any differently than I do about that."

Middle linebacker Bobby Wagner agreed.

"He should be received with the loudest cheer that they can possibly cheer and the warmest of welcomes," said Wagner, a teammate of Sherman's for six seasons. "It's not like he said, 'I hate this team, I want to leave.' It was the business side of everything. So I would be surprised if they booed. If anybody booed, they didn't like him when he was here. I think he deserves the applause. He was a part of the team that helped bring the city the first football championship. I wouldn't expect anything other than respect."

That sums up the great respect that Sherm deserves. Way too much hate on him in this thread along with revisionist history to fit a negative agenda against him. He's one of the fiercest competitors we ever have had here and it's a shame Schneider refused to match the SF offer. I hope Sherm continues to play at a high level and also hope he doesn't get hurt overexerting himself Sun.

Totally loved him as a player, reasonable respect as a human being but absolutely thought the FO did the right thing in not matching SF's contract offer. I am much more in favor of hungry developmental players on D and putting some good players on the OL. I am not in favor of paying top dollar to aging CB's coming off major injuries.

If I ever meet him in person I will thank him profusely for his years as a Seahawk. I absolutely will not be cheering for him this weekend as he is an enemy combatant.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

That sums up the great respect that Sherm deserves. Way too much hate on him in this thread along with revisionist history to fit a negative agenda against him. He's one of the fiercest competitors we ever have had here and it's a shame Schneider refused to match the SF offer. I hope Sherm continues to play at a high level and also hope he doesn't get hurt overexerting himself Sun.

What's the revisionist history........just about every Sherman outburst and disruption was caught on camera.

- screaming at his own teammates
- yelling at his coaches
- threatening a reporter
- his "kumbaya" statement
- the numerous come to jesus meeting he had to have with Pete

I love Sherm, wish him well, and look forward to the day he can come back after his career and stand next to the rest of the LOB to take their rightful place in the Ring of Honor.

But if you think there was nothing to him being a royal pain in the ass, and that's one of the reasons he's no longer here? I don't know what team or player you were following the past 2-3 years.

 

[West TX Hawk]

That sums up the great respect that Sherm deserves. Way too much hate on him in this thread along with revisionist history to fit a negative agenda against him. He's one of the fiercest competitors we ever have had here and it's a shame Schneider refused to match the SF offer. I hope Sherm continues to play at a high level and also hope he doesn't get hurt overexerting himself Sun.

What's the revisionist history........just about every Sherman outburst and disruption was caught on camera.

- screaming at his own teammates
- yelling at his coaches
- threatening a reporter
- his "kumbaya" statement
- the numerous come to jesus meeting he had to have with Pete

I love Sherm, wish him well, and look forward to the day he can come back after his career and stand next to the rest of the LOB to take their rightful place in the Ring of Honor.

But if you think there was nothing to him being a royal pain in the ass, and that's one of the reasons he's no longer here? I don't know what team or player you were following the past 2-3 years.

Did he push the limits? Without question. Did he become a PIA at times? Yes, granted. But people are now making him out to be a Harvinesque cancer which he was not. There's a difference. By all accounts his teammates had tremendous respect for him. And his actions weren't a whole lot different from Lynch or Bennett and neither of them have encapsulated the pure hate many here seem to have for Sherm.

As to some of Sherm's antics that people are so hung up in arms about:

Sherm calling out Bevell: Honestly I commend him for having the guts to do so. The soft local media sure as hell didn't. Carroll was blind as a bat with Cabevell and maybe Sherm brought to the limelight the problems that many of the players had with Bevell. Not appropriate for a player to do so? Well sometimes you just have to take a stand.

Sherm's comments with the sports radio guy: Don't care, that guy was a jackass anyway. Sherm threatening to take away press credentials? Too far there Sherm.

Sherm yelling "you suck" after picking off Wilson in practice: Don't care. If Wilson or others are truly offended by this, it's becoming a nation of panzies.

Sherm's frustrations/yelling after broken coverages: Just that-frustration with himself and idiots like Simon not knowing what the hell they were supposed to do.

Sherm's comments post SF signing: Understand the disappointment and hurt this ultimate competitor felt after Schneider refused to match a team friendly, incentive- laden contract that SF offered. Sherm was pissed and understandably so. Other injured players were given incentive deals and he wasn’t-a player who gave it his absolute all and accomplished so much for Sea.

Sherm is highly emotional, similar to Earl, and he's still learning things in life. But for people to trash him and rewrite him into having been Percy's twin is flat wrong. He's still a very effective player and IMO we'd be much better having him than Griffin starting this year.

Bottom line: If you expect your favorite NFL players to represent the highest of values or to exhibit nothing but gratefulness to the team that cut them, you'll be consistently disappointed.

 

[Seymour]

The ending isn't about being grateful to the team that cut him or not. It's about putting yourself above the team and coaches and not being able to shut your mouth when you are causing one distraction after another.

Sherman could not shut his mouth about "the pass" because he was too weak minded to be able to get past it like most people. He let it get the best of him, and calling out Bevell and Wilson and acting like god himself is what got him axed. Good riddance IMO. I liked the 2013 Sherman, and could not stand the 2015 and on Sherman. They are 2 different people.

He is gone because they had no choice because he questioned all authority and quit buying in.....forget the injury. That was just the icing on the cake.

Boo the hell out of him, he is tainted....damaged goods, Diva, and now the enemy.... ukeface:

 

[HawkRiderFan]

Also his smarts. He had the ability to read route combinations and be right in advance of where the QB would go with the ball. Did lots of film study to help too. There would the rare time he was burned by it he was right most of the time.

It will be an interesting cat and mouse game on Sunday. The Hawks know that he will be looking to make a play so will they try and burn him on a pump fake / double move type play? At the same time, he might anticipate they would try and do that to him and not bite....maybe even try and bait Russ into thinking he bit and throwing a ball to an area he's expecting.

 

[Mad Dog]

That sums up the great respect that Sherm deserves. Way too much hate on him in this thread along with revisionist history to fit a negative agenda against him. He's one of the fiercest competitors we ever have had here and it's a shame Schneider refused to match the SF offer. I hope Sherm continues to play at a high level and also hope he doesn't get hurt overexerting himself Sun.

What's the revisionist history........just about every Sherman outburst and disruption was caught on camera.

- screaming at his own teammates
- yelling at his coaches
- threatening a reporter
- his "kumbaya" statement
- the numerous come to jesus meeting he had to have with Pete

I love Sherm, wish him well, and look forward to the day he can come back after his career and stand next to the rest of the LOB to take their rightful place in the Ring of Honor.

But if you think there was nothing to him being a royal pain in the ass, and that's one of the reasons he's no longer here? I don't know what team or player you were following the past 2-3 years.

Did he push the limits? Without question. Did he become a PIA at times? Yes, granted. But people are now making him out to be a Harvinesque cancer which he was not. There's a difference. By all accounts his teammates had tremendous respect for him. And his actions weren't a whole lot different from Lynch or Bennett and neither of them have encapsulated the pure hate many here seem to have for Sherm.

As to some of Sherm's antics that people are so hung up in arms about:

Sherm calling out Bevell: Honestly I commend him for having the guts to do so. The soft local media sure as hell didn't. Carroll was blind as a bat with Cabevell and maybe Sherm brought to the limelight the problems that many of the players had with Bevell. Not appropriate for a player to do so? Well sometimes you just have to take a stand.

Sherm's comments with the sports radio guy: Don't care, that guy was a jackass anyway. Sherm threatening to take away press credentials? Too far there Sherm.

Sherm yelling "you suck" after picking off Wilson in practice: Don't care. If Wilson or others are truly offended by this, it's becoming a nation of panzies.

Sherm's frustrations/yelling after broken coverages: Just that-frustration with himself and idiots like Simon not knowing what the hell they were supposed to do.

Sherm's comments post SF signing: Understand the disappointment and hurt this ultimate competitor felt after Schneider refused to match a team friendly, incentive- laden contract that SF offered. Sherm was pissed and understandably so. Other injured players were given incentive deals and he wasn’t-a player who gave it his absolute all and accomplished so much for Sea.

Sherm is highly emotional, similar to Earl, and he's still learning things in life. But for people to trash him and rewrite him into having been Percy's twin is flat wrong. He's still a very effective player and IMO we'd be much better having him than Griffin starting this year.

Bottom line: If you expect your favorite NFL players to represent the highest of values or to exhibit nothing but gratefulness to the team that cut them, you'll be consistently disappointed.

I'm almost certain Sherman did not spell out the incentive ladenness of his SF contract with Schneider. It probably more went down like," Hey John, SF offered me a 39 million 3 year deal. Will you match?"

 

[Sgt. Largent]

That sums up the great respect that Sherm deserves. Way too much hate on him in this thread along with revisionist history to fit a negative agenda against him. He's one of the fiercest competitors we ever have had here and it's a shame Schneider refused to match the SF offer. I hope Sherm continues to play at a high level and also hope he doesn't get hurt overexerting himself Sun.

What's the revisionist history........just about every Sherman outburst and disruption was caught on camera.

- screaming at his own teammates
- yelling at his coaches
- threatening a reporter
- his "kumbaya" statement
- the numerous come to jesus meeting he had to have with Pete

I love Sherm, wish him well, and look forward to the day he can come back after his career and stand next to the rest of the LOB to take their rightful place in the Ring of Honor.

But if you think there was nothing to him being a royal pain in the ass, and that's one of the reasons he's no longer here? I don't know what team or player you were following the past 2-3 years.

Did he push the limits? Without question. Did he become a PIA at times? Yes, granted. But people are now making him out to be a Harvinesque cancer which he was not. There's a difference. By all accounts his teammates had tremendous respect for him. And his actions weren't a whole lot different from Lynch or Bennett and neither of them have encapsulated the pure hate many here seem to have for Sherm.

As to some of Sherm's antics that people are so hung up in arms about:

Sherm calling out Bevell: Honestly I commend him for having the guts to do so. The soft local media sure as hell didn't. Carroll was blind as a bat with Cabevell and maybe Sherm brought to the limelight the problems that many of the players had with Bevell. Not appropriate for a player to do so? Well sometimes you just have to take a stand.

Sherm's comments with the sports radio guy: Don't care, that guy was a jackass anyway. Sherm threatening to take away press credentials? Too far there Sherm.

Sherm yelling "you suck" after picking off Wilson in practice: Don't care. If Wilson or others are truly offended by this, it's becoming a nation of panzies.

Sherm's frustrations/yelling after broken coverages: Just that-frustration with himself and idiots like Simon not knowing what the hell they were supposed to do.

Sherm's comments post SF signing: Understand the disappointment and hurt this ultimate competitor felt after Schneider refused to match a team friendly, incentive- laden contract that SF offered. Sherm was pissed and understandably so. Other injured players were given incentive deals and he wasn’t-a player who gave it his absolute all and accomplished so much for Sea.

Sherm is highly emotional, similar to Earl, and he's still learning things in life. But for people to trash him and rewrite him into having been Percy's twin is flat wrong. He's still a very effective player and IMO we'd be much better having him than Griffin starting this year.

Bottom line: If you expect your favorite NFL players to represent the highest of values or to exhibit nothing but gratefulness to the team that cut them, you'll be consistently disappointed.

If you agree with all of this, then don't call it "revisionist history." It wasn't revisionist, it was accurate.

I also couldn't disagree with you more as far as Sherman's tantrums being acceptable, or even understandable.........and obviously Pete and John agree with me, which is why he's not here anymore.

There's no place on a team sport at any level for negative players that undermine what their coach and organization is trying to accomplish.

It's why the Patriots are now approaching year #20 of their insanely successful run, you either fall into line or you're gone. Period.

Hopefully Pete learned this very valuable lesson, you either buy in, or you're gone.

 

[chris98251]

As far as Sherman saying you suck to Wilson, if you ever played sports and practiced against someone you taunt and flip crap all the time, QB's are always having players try to rattle them also. This was such a big non issue that people just want to try and make one about.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

As far as Sherman saying you suck to Wilson, if you ever played sports and practiced against someone you taunt and flip crap all the time, QB's are always having players try to rattle them also. This was such a big non issue that people just want to try and make one about.

I was always cool with this........and anything else that stays in the locker room or on the practice field. I played sports all the way through college, I understand how alpha male athletes tick.

It's when players start going public, that crosses the line for me.

 

[Seymour]

Sherman is such a turd.

Just listened to his interview on 950 and he was asked if he was prepared to take on Russell given what he is capable of doing?

"Ya I've also seen him throw 5 picks, so there are both sides to that"....

That was it, no respect given. All hate.

What a complete ass! Anyone that doesn't see the Sherman hate towards Wilson is blind as a bat. ukeface:

 

[GLio14]

Sherman is such a turd.

Just listened to his interview on 950 and he was asked if he was prepared to take on Russell given what he is capable of doing?

"Ya I've also seen him throw 5 picks, so there are both sides to that"....

That was it, no respect given. All hate.

What a complete ass! Anyone that doesn't see the Sherman hate towards Wilson is blind as a bat. ukeface:

It's really hard to cheer for him with his bitterness.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/nwagoner/status/1068261685604114432[/tweet]

And yet, he completely ignores that everyone that was drafted from this class is on the roster currently.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Sherman is such a turd.

Just listened to his interview on 950 and he was asked if he was prepared to take on Russell given what he is capable of doing?

"Ya I've also seen him throw 5 picks, so there are both sides to that"....

That was it, no respect given. All hate.

What a complete ass! Anyone that doesn't see the Sherman hate towards Wilson is blind as a bat. ukeface:

Ha, would you expect anything less?

This is Sherman's act, he has to create that chip on his shoulder, real or self created.................in order to work himself into a lather.

So this is his part, the poor disrespected martyr that was unfairly treated in Seattle.

 

[Seymour]

Yep no doubt. He also made damn sure to throw in that he really didn't expect to get cut after giving his all for 7 years then getting injured and something about lack of respect.

Hey asshat.....you were let go because of your mouth, not your ankle! For someone that "is so smart", he sure lacks objectionable self survey. :roll:

 

[SpokaneHawks]

I want to see Wilson get after Sherman. He can be beat on quick throws and I want to see Russ target him early and see if he might get a little rattled.