The one move I'd love to see, unlikely as it is

[Sac]

I'd love to see Tate get an extension. He and RW have great chemistry.

 

[Jville]

I'm thinking that a 5/25 type deal would probably get it done for Tate right now, perhaps less.

I just don't see it happening without a corresponding cap move.

#1 "Over The Cap" currently ranks the Seahawk receiver group as the most expensive WR group in the NFL. That's in spite of the fact the Seahawks remain a run first offense. Something is going to have to give. The Percy Harvin cap number makes a huge jump in 2014.

#2 A 5/25 type deal implies a commitment to Tate as a core player. His body of work over his first 3 years falls well short of inspiring that kind of commitment. It's going to take a solid 2013 season to warrant a multi-year commitment.

#3 IMO Tate's value is tied to how consistent and productive he can be on the outside in 2013. The team (as well as the league) has a surplus of cheaper receivers who can play out of the slot as well as make contributions on special teams.

 

[Atradees]

Tate had some elusive moves this past year. Could be in for some cash on a team. We are paying Rice, Tate and Miller....and Harvin.

I just dont know.

 

[CEHawk]

These might be an indication of friendship... :0190l:

 

[SE174]

John Clayton thinks that Tate is likely to NOT be on the roster next year, unless he accepted 2-3M/yr, which he thinks is highly unlikely.

http://mynorthwest.com/?nid=577&a=9957740&p=13&n=

 

[seahawksTopGear]

I was against the Percy Harvin trade because I believed we had what we needed in Tate and I figured Percy would cost too much to keep Tate. My argument was that when talking strictly about the wr role Tate was 80% as good as Harvin and quickly getting better.

Now that the trade has happened a surprise! Harvin came much cheaper than I expected. Why not dream about keeping both?

 

[Cartire]

I honestly see the hawks first trying to restructure Rice. As good as he is, the production doesnt equal his pay, and he has to know that. Rather or not he will accept it is up to him, and im sure he could get a better deal elsewhere if he was released.

With either a release or restructure of Rice, a Tate extension is very plausible.

 

[SouthSoundHawk]

Lock him up! He's on a great upswing, and it would be stupid to let him walk. That is of course he asks for more money than he's worth, he could be replaced if need be.

 

[bestfightstory]

As much as I was glad to see us grab Percy and eliminate the possibility of him going to the Niners, I really wouldn't want Golden on the Niners, either.

Although with our dbacks, neither PH nor GT scare me, the Niners do play 14 other games each year.

 

[Cartire]

As much as I was glad to see us grab Percy and eliminate the possibility of him going to the Niners, I really wouldn't want Golden on the Niners, either.

Although with our dbacks, neither PH nor GT scare me, the Niners do play 14 other games each year.

I dont think Golden would pull a Jennings. I think if he was released, he would try to go outside the division. I dont know any of this for sure, but its my gut. Unless the 9ers offered a ridiculous contract that no one else could match. Which, with their receivers, who knows.

 

[sutz]

He's actually coming into his prime. Getting him to sign a 5 year extension now would lock him up until he's nearly 30, which is often a magic number for football player ages, not in a good way. Sure, WRs may play longer, maybe, but still, it's his prime years coming up and I'd love to see him play at least those as a Seahawk.

 

[Hawks46]

I would think if we couldn't keep Tate, we'd try to restructure Rice and try again.

We seriously need Tate. Him and Harvin at the same time is going to be something special to watch. Tate is a tremendous downfield blocker, and if Harvin ends up being a decent df blocker as well, we could have some fun with Harvin, Tate, and Miller all out in routes downfield together. It would be damn near like throwing a 20 yard screen pass downfield.

Tate is seriously underrated. I think he's every bit as elusive as Harvin; Percy is more explosive, but Tate is stronger, high points the ball better, and has mega elite balance. I haven't seen balance like that since Barry Sanders, and maybe no one else.

 

[Bigpumpkin]

Does someone on this message board work in our Front Office? How do we know that a "deal" isn't in the "works" right now? Remember...."It takes two to tango"! How do we know that John and Pete are not already talking to his agent? A lot can happen in the next five weeks.

 

[Missing_Clink]

I don't think an extension happens for Tate unless Rice's contract is restructured or cut. There is no way they pay huge money to all of Harvin, Rice and Tate. I'd much rather keep Tate long term than Rice if I had to choose. Rice is too big of an injury risk for my tastes

 

[HawkAroundTheClock]

I was intrigued by Tate back in college. Part of that was the fact there was a Golden Domer named Golden, but then his highlights spoke volumes about his ability. He looked tough, crafty, speedy, and dynamic. 2012 was not a fluke. That's just how this guy plays football. Perhaps he needed some time to adjust to the NFL game because he forewent his senior year.

Or maybe it had more to do with 2012 being his first year in the league with a better-than-average QB getting him the ball. On that tip, I haven't seen enough Jimmy Clausen games to say with any authority, but I wonder if Jimmy's stock was overinflated because of how good Golden was. He won the Biletnikoff Award as the nation's best WR after his junior year. (former winners include Bobby Engram, Randy Moss, Larry Fitzgerald, Calvin Johnson, Michael Crabtree (twice), etc.)

Highlights of the highlights in this college video:
@ 0:15, slicing through 3 defenders, then springboard-leaping over a 4th for the score (very familiar, extraordinary stuff)
@ 3:15, jumping into the band, Michigan State's band (lol)
@ 4:55, cutting all the way across the field and dodging 7 defenders along the way. SEVEN.
@ 5:25, a hail mary against Wazzu... guess who's outpositioned and outnumbered, but undeterred... (again, familiar and extraordinary)

[youtube]ikQaUdZrET8[/youtube]
[urltargetblank]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikQaUdZrET8[/urltargetblank]

When we drafted Tate we were an absolute mess at WR and I was stoked. I thought he could be our Steve Smith, but after 3 seasons he's proven to be more like a Harvin-Smith hybrid in that he's equally dangerous down the sideline, deep middle, getting the ball in space near the LOS, mid-field passes, and even on end-arounds out of the backfield. I'm so pumped & jacked to see Percy and Golden on the field in Seahawks uniforms. If we witness a Tate-to-Harvin TD pass, my head might explode.

I'm with Kearly and others; lock him up!

FUN FACT: in addition to Earl Thomas and Walter Thurmond, Golden Tate is also a "3". His dad was Golden Tate, Jr., a 5th-round draft pick in 1984.
[urltargetblank]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_NFL_Draft#Round_five[/urltargetblank]\

Nice write up.

Not that I doubt you, but where does the evidence that he is best buds with Wilson come from?

As noted with visual evidence by CEHawk, the couples hang out a lot. They're often back-n-forth on Twitter talking about getting together and having a great time. :th2thumbs:

 

[onanygivensunday]

Several have mentioned that signing Harvin makes Tate expendable... but the problem with that logic is they don't play the same position.

Harvin is a slot receiver and Tate is not. Tate plays outside and Baldwin currently is our slot receiver (even though Rice occasionally lines up as the slot receiver depending on the match-ups).

Hard to tell at this point in time what should/will happen.

Ideally, after the season the Hawks re-structure Rice's contract and the Hawks are then able to extend Tate.

If Rice won't re-structure and the Hawks release him as a result, then we better hope that Harper steps up to play the X next year.

 

[NYCoug]

Several have mentioned that signing Harvin makes Tate expendable... but the problem with that logic is they don't play the same position.

Harvin is a slot receiver and Tate is not. Tate plays outside and Baldwin currently is our slot receiver (even though Rice occasionally lines up as the slot receiver depending on the match-ups).

Hard to tell at this point in time what should/will happen.

Ideally, after the season the Hawks re-structure Rice's contract and the Hawks are then able to extend Tate.

If Rice won't re-structure and the Hawks release him as a result, then we better hope that Harper steps up to play the X next year.

I agree with you 100%. I keep reading that Tate is now "redundant" with Percy in the mix and I just don't get it. Do very good football players at skill positions that are about to enter the prime of their career ever become redundant? I didn't even know that was possible. If so, load me up with redundancy all day, every day. Plus, like anygivensunday points out, Tate plays more outside than Harvin and while both excel with the rock in the open field and at making guys miss/running through cornerbacks, Tate is much better at high-pointing the ball and going up and being a beast on jump balls more so than Percy. Golden's more like Steve Smith (Panthers) in that regard. Golden certainly brings his own, unique game to the table.

If anyone becomes expendable it's Dougie Fresh and even then I think Doug is the ideal #4 WR and probably won't command much on the open market to make him too tough to keep.

I'll add to your post that next year's draft is looking like it'll have some impressive X prospects next year. Jordan Matthews and Brandon Coleman immediately jump out. Hopefully Sid erupts this season and makes his contract # for next season (2014) look like a bargain though. That's what I'm bankin on.

 

[dbmack]

FUN FACT: in addition to Earl Thomas and Walter Thurmond, Golden Tate is also a "3". His dad was Golden Tate, Jr., a 5th-round draft pick in 1984.
[urltargetblank]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_NFL_Draft#Round_five[/urltargetblank]\

Percy Harvin is also a "3"

http://www.seahawks.com/news/articles/a ... 8f1e691183

 

[BocciHawk]

Random aside. The FO absolutely could restructure Tate and extend him, and then go to Rice and ask him to restructure... there's a lot more leverage in that situation as the threat that they might cut Rice becomes VERY legitimate as a threat i.e. take a cut or you're gone gets a lot more play if you know they've got too much tied up in the WR position.

It doesn't necessarily have to be Rice first, then Tate, is all I'm saying.

 

[HawkAroundTheClock]

FUN FACT: in addition to Earl Thomas and Walter Thurmond, Golden Tate is also a "3". His dad was Golden Tate, Jr., a 5th-round draft pick in 1984.
[urltargetblank]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_NFL_Draft#Round_five[/urltargetblank]\

Percy Harvin is also a "3"

http://www.seahawks.com/news/articles/a ... 8f1e691183

Sweet! Thanks, I missed that one on .com.