The Hawkstorian's All-Time Numeric Roster

[Hawkstorian]

I'll have to skip Friday & Saturday, so we'll be back with #59 on Sunday. Linebackers! More centers!

 

[Kennedyin92]

Aaron Curry!

 

[Bill Assumpcao]

Go Hawks,
BillA

 

[Seahawk Sailor]

Regarding #61 and #60, hard to go wrong with Tobeck and Unger. Both solid players.

As far as the Tony Dorsett trade goes, I was too young to really understand the implications of that other than "we could have had him as a Seahawk!" And everybody wanted his trading card back in the day. Seahawks cards were obviously at a premium with us youngsters in Eastern Washington, but the guys like Tony Dorsett were coveted as well. I'm sure I still have an old Dorsett card or two in the box.

 

[Hawkstorian]

Well yeah, I was a kid too, so there's no way I could have perspective beyond Cowboy fans constantly teasing Seahawk fans.

 

[volsunghawk]

Can't remember where I heard it, but I was certain that Dorsett was on record as not wanting any part of Seattle. Maybe that was a factor in the trade decision.

 

[3Girls'HawkDad]

Didn't we some how end up with Largent because of the Dorsett trade?

That makes it pretty easy to swallow.

I don't think Dorsett would have been THE Tony Dorsett behind those early Seahawks lines. It's funny to hear young whipper snappers bitch about our lines now when they should have seen what Zorn had to put up with.

 

[Hawkstorian]

Largent came in '76, Dorsett was traded in '77 so no relationship there. You may be thinking about Ahmad Rashad whom the Seahawks traded to Minnesota about the same time they traded for Largent.

 

[hawksfansinceday1]

I was 20 when Dorsett refused to play for the Hawks. He did refuse/make it clear he would NOT play in Seattle and forced the trade. Hated him ever since (as a player, not a person of course.....it is sports/entertainment after all).

 

[drdiags]

Can't remember where I heard it, but I was certain that Dorsett was on record as not wanting any part of Seattle. Maybe that was a factor in the trade decision.

I was 20 when Dorsett refused to play for the Hawks. He did refuse/make it clear he would NOT play in Seattle and forced the trade. Hated him ever since (as a player, not a person of course.....it is sports/entertainment after all).

Saw a recent video with Dorsett where he admitted that he knew he had nothing but idle threats and if the Seahawks had drafted him, he would have played here. Sort of like what Gary Wichard (?) and the Boz tried prior to the supplemental draft, where they voiced their desire not to play here because it was a small market for their brand.

Guess Dorsett and his agent bluff was too much for the Seahawks to risk. Thing is the Seahawks FO was an old Dallas FO guy. It isn't like they were total newbs, but yeah, the team were a bunch of dorks.

 

[Hawkstorian]

#59

First	Last	College	Pos	Years	Games	Starts
Ken	Hutcherson	Livingston	LB	1976	0	0
Charles	MCShane	Cal Lutheran	LB	1977-1979	29	0
Terry	Rennaker	Stanford	LB	1980	15	0
Rodell	Thomas	Alabama State	LB	1981-1982	19	1
Blair	Bush	Washington	C	1983-1988	88	84
Joe	Cain	Oregon Tech	LB	1989-1992, 1997	69	13
Mitch	Frerotte	Penn State	G	1993-1994	0	0
Tyronne	Stowe	Rutgers	LB	1995-1996	6	6
Darrin	Smith	Miami	LB	1998-1999	29	26
Tim	Terry	Temple	LB	2000-2002	38	8
Tracy	White	Howard	LB	2003-2004	21	2
Julian	Peterson	Michigan State	LB	2006-2008	52	51
Aaron	Curry	Wake Forest	LB	2009-2011	37	32
Adrian	Moten	Maryland	LB	2011	2	0

I went back and forth as to whether to include Ken Hutcherson on this list. He never played a regular season game for Seattle and yet for years he would be in the news, sometimes referred to "ex-Seahawk" Ken Hutcherson -- which I always thought was a bit of a half-truth. However, looking into the early news articles, I think it's very safe to assume that if he hadn't been hurt in pre-season he would have made the team and probably started. My approach to the all-time roster is I'm including guys like Hutcherson and Nate Odomes who never played, but probaby would have. He was a very talented linebacker who's career was derailed by injuries. His post-Seahawk life was spent as a well-known pastor in Seattle and on the national stage. He passed away just a few months ago at the young age of 61.

After Hutcherson, what a long list of names, some of whom you may recall and most of which you wouldn't. The most recent #59 (other than Korey Toomer whom I'm not counting) was Adrian Moten, who was handed #59 8 weeks after Aaron Curry was shipped to Oakland.

The top #59 in history was Blair Bush, the former UW Husky center. The Seahawks traded a #1 pick to Cincinatti for Bush, who started at center for most of 6 seasons, which were the peak of the Chuck Knox years. In 1989 he was given the "Plan B" treatment and signed with Green Bay and later the Rams. He spent less than half of his 14 year career in Seattle.

 

[Ad Hawk]

This sounds fair; I'm a bit surprised you didn't at least give a nod Peterson's short, but consistent role here.

 

[Hawkstorian]

This sounds fair; I'm a bit surprised you didn't at least give a nod Peterson's short, but consistent role here.

I was actually going to just point out that a bunch of fans bought #59 jerseys and got screwed when he switched to #98.

 

[Seahawk Sailor]

This sounds fair; I'm a bit surprised you didn't at least give a nod Peterson's short, but consistent role here.

I was actually going to just point out that a bunch of fans bought #59 jerseys and got screwed when he switched to #98.

I have a #59 Peterson jersey myself. If you're going to wear a #59, hey, at least it ain't Aaron Curry. I wasn't really too cognizant of the players and their numbers back then, especially linemen, so I really don't remember Blair Bush. I do have fond memories of Peterson's time here, though. Guy was a beast.

 

[Phteven]

I didn't know about the history between Dorsett and the hawks. I was a kid in Texas, at the time. My dad was always a cowboys fan, and so was I up until we moved to Seattle inI 1983.

 

[bdrr1510]

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[Hawkstorian]

#58

First	Last	College	Pos	Years	Games	Starts
Don	Hansen	Illinois	LB	1976	2	0
Terry	Beeson	Kansas	LB	1977-1981	76	67
Bruce	Scholtz	Texas	LB	1982-1988	103	102
Greg	Clark	Arizona State	LB	1992	2	0
Bobby	Spitulski	Central Florida	LB	1992-1995	26	1
Daryl	Hardy	Tennessee	LB	1997	2	0
Toran	James	North Carolina A&T	LB	1998	0	0
Scott	Fields	Southern Cal	LB	1999	2	0
Isaiah	Kacyvenski	Harvard	LB	2000-2006	95	23
Marquis	Cooper	Washington	LB	2006	2	0
Dexter	Davis	Arizona State	DE	2010-2012	18	0
John	Lutulelei	Nevada-Las Vegas	LB	2013	2	0

Don Hansen was a 10 year veteran with Minnesota and Atlanta when he came to Seattle in the expansion draft. Really not the kind of player you're looking to build a franchise with. He played two games then was traded to Green Bay, although I can't for the life of me find out what we got in return.

The most recent #58 was John Lutulelei, who was the star of pre-sesaon in 2013 but cut when Bruce Irvin came of suspension and was claimed by Jacksonville.

There are 3 players in history who have been very good at this number. Terry Beeson was the starting MLB in the late '70s and led the team in tackles for three straight years. He was arguable the team's best defensive player in those years but injuries wound his career down way too early, otherwise I think history would remember him much better.

Bruce Scholtz was an inside LB in 3-4 defenses of the mid-80s and another tackling machine. He also was very good in pass coverage with a big wingspan. Unfortunately, when you think of the very good teams of that era, Scholtz seems a little down the list of memorable players.

Isaiah Kacyvenski was a special teams ace who could never quite establish himself as an every down defender. However, if you ever saw the NFL Films piece on his journey at Harvard and his relationship with his dad, you couldn't help root for him.

Scholtz had the longer career and played on better teams, but Beeson is one of the better defenders in team history and my MVP.

 

[Seahawks1Fan]

Absolutely love this thread Hawkstorian and really appreciate all the time and effort it took to put this together and I've agreed on nearly every one of your choices for MVP but I thinbk I've got to give the slight nod to Scholtz on this one. I agree with your sentiments on Beeson and I agree that it's a close decision but the longer career plus the fact that Scholtz was on our first playoff team kinda make me lean towards him on #58.

Could be I'm just being a little nostalgic about our first playoff team that makes me give Scholtz the edge!!
I totally admit that!!!

Again, great work on this list. I look forward to it each day.

 

[IndyHawk]

Scholtz wins this but not by much..

 

[SalishHawkFan]

Beeson, for me was our first "Beast" in that I called him Terry Beaston back in the day. Soon as I saw the names on that list, I thought the MVP should be Beeson. I can understand people going for Scholtz, but it should be Beeson IMO.