The Hawkstorian's All-Time Numeric Roster

[hawksfansinceday1]

No brainer. Jeff Bryant was the man.

I still get a little sad when I think about how sure I was that Pork Chop was gonna make us forget about Hutch.

This on both accounts.

 

[Anonymous]

Aahhhh, Pork Chop...

 

[drdiags]

My man Boogie. Chuck Knox loved Jeff Bryant.

 

[Hawkstorian]

#76

First	Last	College	Pos	Years	Games	Starts
Steve	August	Tulsa	T	1977-1984	101	94
Jon	Borchardt	Montana State	G	1985-1987	43	4
Bill	Hitchcock	Purdue	T	1991-1994	51	39
Steve	Hutchinson	Michigan	G	2001-2005	73	73
Russell	Okung	Oklahoma State	T	2010-2013	52	52

**edited because I frequently get my Big-10 schools confused**

An interesting and short group: all offensive linemen who played at least three years and four guys who all started for extended periods. No cup-o-coffee guys that we see on most of the other numbers.

Steve August was a number one pick who started at right tackle for most of six seasons. On many all-time teams he is considered the best right tackle in team history, although I'd probably take Sean Locklear ahead of him. His career came abruptly to an end during the 1984 as he was traded to Pittsburgh after a crappy game against Oakland.

Russell Okung was drafted high in the first round to be the left tackle for the next 10 years, but he has suffered from both injuries and comparisons to Walter Jones. Instead of comparing him to Walt I think we got to compare him a to Paul McQuistan this year and frankly I'm pretty happy with how our season ended.

It's interesting that this morning the subject of Steve Hutchinson came up and the circumstances of his departure. I'm not one to get too upset when a player leaves over money or contracts. Many Seattle fans were inconsolable over the way Alex Rodriguez left the Mariners and remained bitter for years after. My feeling is this: we are fans and we enjoy the games but we don't really know what goes on in the business side. We don't know how much players are asking for. We don't know their medical background or the chemistry in the locker room. Sure it's disappointing the way Hutch left, but he trusted his agent and did what he thought was best for himself, which is all any of us would do.

And NONE of this in any way impacts the indisputable fact that he is the greatest #76 in team history.

 

[Zebulon Dak]

HUUUUUUUUTCH!!!!!

 

[TestMo1337]

Correction, Hutch went to Michigan not Wisconsin.



Great list. Keep 'em coming!!!

 

[Kennedyin92]

I think it's a bit of a shame that we vilify Hutchinson for what happened. Ruskell is the moron who instigated the entire proceeding. Hutchinson had no particular reason for loyalty to the Hawks, he's was just another paid mercenary.

 

[Hawkstorian]

Correction, Hutch went to Michigan not Wisconsin.

Chris McIntosh went to Wisconsin does that count?

 

[MidwestHawker]

I think it's a bit of a shame that we vilify Hutchinson for what happened. Ruskell is the moron who instigated the entire proceeding. Hutchinson had no particular reason for loyalty to the Hawks, he's was just another paid mercenary.

I would agree that he shouldn't be entirely vilified, though I'll also say that him not being loyal to us is ample reason to not be particularly loyal in return.

There are players like Kevin Mawae who leave us and we can only shrug, because we couldn't afford to pay him what he was worth. This might happen with Michael Bennett also, and if he does then I will hold him no ill will. But the team was fully ready to commit to Hutch and pay him everything he was worth, and he decided to make Minnesota home instead in what could have been financially equal situations. In that way, he disowned us. I'm fine with disowning him in return.

 

[Kennedyin92]

I think it's a bit of a shame that we vilify Hutchinson for what happened. Ruskell is the moron who instigated the entire proceeding. Hutchinson had no particular reason for loyalty to the Hawks, he's was just another paid mercenary.

I would agree that he shouldn't be entirely vilified, though I'll also say that him not being loyal to us is ample reason to not be particularly loyal in return.

There are players like Kevin Mawae who leave us and we can only shrug, because we couldn't afford to pay him what he was worth. This might happen with Michael Bennett also, and if he does then I will hold him no ill will. But the team was fully ready to commit to Hutch and pay him everything he was worth, and he decided to make Minnesota home instead in what could have been financially equal situations. In that way, he disowned us. I'm fine with disowning him in return.

Understood, but I think we as fans expect too much loyalty from the players. I will be vilified for saying this, but A-Rod had no particular attachment to Seattle and I don't blame him. He wasn't born here, he wasn't raised here, and neither was Hutch. As much as I hated that Hutch chose the Vikings, he had 49 million reasons to do so. No matter how long he played here, he would always have played in the humongous shadow of Walter Jones.

 

[MidwestHawker]

Understood, but I think we as fans expect too much loyalty from the players. I will be vilified for saying this, but A-Rod had no particular attachment to Seattle and I don't blame him. He wasn't born here, he wasn't raised here, and neither was Hutch. As much as I hated that Hutch chose the Vikings, he had 49 million reasons to do so. No matter how long he played here, he would always have played in the humongous shadow of Walter Jones.

Again, re: the bolded, not really. We weren't being outbid in that case.

I agree that it's perfectly fine for a player to leave for more money. But obviously once a player shows that he's not loyal to us, we don't owe them any continued loyalty in return. It's a two-way street.

 

[Seahawk772002]

Cut and pasted from Kennedyin92 and MidwestHawker comments.

There are players like Kevin Mawae who leave us and we can only shrug, because we couldn't afford to pay him what he was worth. This might happen with Michael Bennett also, and if he does then I will hold him no ill will. But the team was fully ready to commit to Hutch and pay him everything he was worth, and he decided to make Minnesota home instead in what could have been financially equal situations. In that way, he disowned us. I'm fine with disowning him in return.

As much as I hated that Hutch chose the Vikings, he had 49 million reasons to do so. No matter how long he played here, he would always have played in the humongous shadow of Walter Jones.

In my dream scenerio we would have kept both Kevin and Hutch.

Three realities:

1. Both players got paid, did best for their families.

2. Neither were on a Super Bowl Championship and both would have played in shadow of Walt in Seattle, both became marquee o linemen for their franchises(Kevin in NY and Hutch in Minny.

3. Seahawks are Super Bowl Champions.

 

[Seahawk Sailor]

Regarding #76:

Yes, he was the most talented at that number to play for the Seahawks. But no, he's one of a few players who will probably remain on my blacklist until the end of times. Can't fault a player for leaving for more money, but that wasn't the case at all. Minnesota's horrible "poison pill" aside, he could have taken the exact same paycheck (because we matched everything but the guarantee) and have come out with more money than with Minnesota, because of Washington's lack of income tax. He chose to personally stiff the team, and left the team far worse than it could have been following a dream season. He chose to stick it to us, vindictively, when he could have been a key piece of our team that might have allowed us to return to the Super Bowl in 2006. With him here then, the offense doesn't break down and come up just short as it did during several critical points in that season. With him, we could have been Super Bowl champions seven years ago.

The fact that he purposely spited us with that left as a possibility will keep him from being the best #76 to play as a Seahawk. I'll give the nod to Super Bowl Champion Russell Okung over Hutch, talent or no.

 

[Hawkstorian]

I certainly can't disagree with either perspective. At this point I would prefer Hutch discussion go in the other thread so we don't get too far off track here.

Also, the "countdown" will be taking a day off. #75 will appear tomorrow.

 

[Zebulon Dak]

Also, the "countdown" will be taking a day off. #75 will appear tomorrow.

:428226_SadEmoticon:

 

[Seahawk Sailor]

Also, the "countdown" will be taking a day off. #75 will appear tomorrow.

:428226_SadEmoticon:

He's doing that on purpose, just so's we have an extra day to bitch about Hutch. 8)

 

[MidwestHawker]

Unfortunately the lingering Hutch debate only even exists because that group of players never ended up winning a SB. If they had won the title in '05, my guess it hat even those who are hardest on Hutch would tend to shrug and say, "But I can't be mad at him, he was a big part of our first championship." Unfortunately XL went how it went and it changes everything we look back on.

 

[hawksfansinceday1]

Unfortunately the lingering Hutch debate only even exists because that group of players never ended up winning a SB. If they had won the title in '05, my guess it hat even those who are hardest on Hutch would tend to shrug and say, "But I can't be mad at him, he was a big part of our first championship." Unfortunately XL went how it went and it changes everything we look back on.

Agree with this.
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Oh, and huck Futch.

 

[Hawkstorian]

#75

First	Last	College	Pos	Years	Games	Starts
Dave	Tipton	Stanford	DE	1976	12	12
Alden	Roche	Southern	DE	1977-1978	22	12
Robert	Hardy	Jackson State	DT	1979-1983	54	53
Adam	Schreiber	Texas	G	1984	8	0
Mike	Wilson	Georgia	T	1986-1989	62	62
Keith	Millard	Washington State	DE	1992	2	0
Howard	Ballard	Alabama A&M	T	1994-1998	74	74
Chris	McIntosh	Wisconsin	T	2000-2002	23	13
Sean	Locklear	North Carolina St	T	2004-2010	107	87
Mike	Person	Montana State	T	2012-2013	1	0

Dave Tipton was an expansion pick from San Diego who started 12 of 14 games in 1976 but was cut the following summer.

The 1976 expansion produced some very good players for the Seahawks, including the late Dave Brown, who was an early ring of honor inductee. The draft was originally scheduled for January but was delayed for two months over concerns the players union may attempt to prevent players from being selected. That delay also wound up delaying the college draft.

There were 26 existing teams at the time, each team protected 29 players. Once a player was selected from that team they could protect two more. Overall each existing team had three players selected by Seattle and Tampa Bay for a total of 78 players, or 39 each side. When the draft was over the draft list was presented alphabetically, so we don't know the order of selection, unless someone else out there knows?

Robert Hardy had one of the best nicknames in team history, "Heartburn" and in my opinion was as good or better than his fellow draftee whom we will discus tomorrow.

The Seahawks traded a #2 draft pick for Keith Millard in 1992 but knee problems kept him out of training camp and he was cut after 2 games. I'd say it was a terrible trade but the Seahawks had no clue how to draft back then so I doubt it hurt them much.

The most recent #75 was Mike Person whom you may recall played the part of the 6th o-lineman in the opening game this year. It apparently didn't work too well and he was gone the following week.

Two right tackles who played opposite Walter Jones vie for the MVP at #75. "House" Ballard was a free agent from those great Buffalo teams who played four solid years for Seattle helping protect a couple of QBs (Friesz & Moon) who frankly needed protecting. He was a warrior and a true leader in those years.

Sean Locklear settled nicely into the RT position and became an excellent pass protector. Someone also once quoted me a stat that said Shaun Alexander gained more yards running to the right than to the left those years but who knows. Locklear also didn't commit any penalties in SBXL that I could see.

Locklear is a worthy choice, but "House" is one of my unsung favorites in team history so he gets my vote.

 

[Kennedyin92]

Loved Howard Ballard, the anchor of the offensive line. Had no idea until a couple of years ago that he played for those Bills teams.