The Hawkstorian's All-Time Numeric Roster

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It's crazy that we have such a lackluster group of guys who wore #'s 88 - 85!
You would thinkg we would have accidently lucked up into a decent player who would wear any of those numbers over the decades!

By the way, Love what you'vef doing here Hawkstorian!!! Look forward to this each day. Great work!

And I really only disagree with not choosing Rufus and maybe Metzelaars as their respective numbers MVP.
 
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If I grouped #84 through #88 together players at #84 would be 1, 2 & 3.

There are some very good players at #85-#88 but nobody who jumps out as a clear winner.
 

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Hawkstorian":1ru5lwvt said:
Ok more Tulsa Seahawk WR history -- Paul Johns was signed out of Tulsa as an undrafted FA in 1981 and became the first 85 in Seahawk history. Johns fast became a productive receiver and punt returner, but his career was ended by a neck injury, forcing his retirement. He has remained a part of the Seahawk organization ever since.

Johns is in charge of the Alumni program for the Seahawks. He has a suite on game days and invites select alumni to come watch the games as a reward for their work in the community or the Seahawks organization. I was fortunate to get to visit that box last season and watch a game (even though I am not an alumni). Craig Terrill, Robbie Tobeck, Alex Bannister, and Red Bryant & Jacob Green's families were all in there (Red obviously wasn't there). Johns is a super nice guy and loves the Seahawks. I will always be thankful for the chance to meet him.
 
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#84
FirstLastCollegePosYearsGamesStarts
SamMcCullumMontana StateWR1976-19819178
SamClancyPittsburghDE1982-1983160
DwightScalesGrambling StateWR198440
DannyGreeneWashingtonWR1985-198640
LouisClarkMississippi StateWR1987-19925615
KelvinMartinBoston CollegeWR1993-19943229
JoeyGallowayOhio StateWR1995-19997267
RufusFrenchMississippiTE1999-200000
BobbyEngramPenn StateWR2001-200811874
T.J.HoushmandzadehOregon StateWR20091616
SeanMcGrathHenderson StateTE201240

I told you it would get better...

If you want to appreciate Seahawks history, you probably already know about Jim Zorn and Steve Largent and some of the great defensive players in the '80s and '90s but there's a name you need to know about and that's Sam McCullum. McCullum was an expansion draft choice who caught the first TD pass in Seahawk history and if that doesn't impress you then he went ahead and caught the second team TD also. He was a fixture in the offense right along Largent and was even named MVP by his teammates in 1980. He was often referred to a "Slow Sam" but he managed nearly 15 yards per reception, a number that would hold up very well even in today's explosive passing games.

McCullum was also famous as the team's union rep leading into the strike-shortened 1982 season. McCullum was cut just as the season was about to begin in a move many believed to be motivated not by his production on the field. It was a horribly way to end what was a very good Seahawk career and at least he did get to raise the 12th man flag in 2005 (although it was pre-season which is BS he deserves another shot!).

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The next #84 was a defensive lineman, Sam Clancy, who played one year before bolting for the USFL. He was the only lineman in team history to wear a number in the 80s as the practice was winding down league-wide. **edit** turns out there was another DL-man who wore #82, see that post. Clancy was drafted as a TE which is why he wore #84.

Danny Greene was a former Husky who caught the TD on one of the craziest plays in team history. Monday Night Football vs. the LA Rams in 2005, Dave Krieg fumbled the snap, kicked the ball and somehow managed to pick it up and throw the ball to Greene for the score. Probably the only highlight you'll see of Greene in a Seahawk uniform.

Kelvin Martin is a cautionary tale of overpaying marginal players on Superbowl winning teams. Just saying.

Our most recent #84 was TE Sean McGrath who played 4 games at the end of 2012 but was cut at the end of the last training camp. He seemed to do OK in Kansas City so not sure why we couldn't have used him.

While McCullum is a old-timers favorite, the MVP at #84 really comes down to two guys who currently reside 4th and 5th in all-time receiving yards in team history (McCullum is 8th).

Bobby Engram was a surprise cut by the Bears in 2001 and was snatched up by the Seahawks. He went on to become Mr. Reliable on 3rd downs and was one of Matt Hasselbeck's favorite targets during the high powered offenses of the early part of this century. Engram would top the list at quite a few other roster numbers in this series....

.... and I know some of you aren't going to l like it....

But the greatest #84 in team history is Joey Galloway and I don't want to hear any bitching about it.

In Galloway's too brief Seahawk career he was nothing short of electric. He brought a dimension to Seahawk football that we never even knew existed. If you didn't see Galloway play imagine a little bit of what Percy Harvin has shown and that's similar to what Galloway did. When a guy has moves and speed on the field that defenders haven't seen before it just makes them look stupid, and Galloway had all that.

I'm not happy about how he left, and his holdout was a huge black eye that can never be healed, but Dallas didn't give up two #1s because they were stupid. If Galloway hadn't blown out his knee his first year in Dallas he'd be either IN or on his way to the hall of fame.

Galloways numbers in 3 1/2 years are about the same as Engram's in 7 years only with more touchdowns and more electric special teams.

I loved Engram as much as the next guy, but there just isn't any other choice here.

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Because he also deserves it here's second place:

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What, no love for Housh? :sarcasm_off:

Thanks for this, Hawkstorian, this will help pass the days leading up to next season.
 

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Bobby was maybe the 2nd most consistently reliable receiver this team has ever had. But Galloway was a true top tier talent, a game changer, maybe the single greatest play maker in the history of this team. I too wish we could have found a way to keep him around.
 

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Before #84 was posted, my head said Galloway, but my heart said Engram. Or maybe it was the other way around. Anyway, I looked up their careers and was surprised to find Galloway wasn't a Seahawk for as long as I thought, while Engram was a Seahawk for longer than I thought. Weird, that.

I own both their jerseys, so I'm equally biased in favor of both. Galloway's, I believe, was the first jersey I ever bought. He was an amazingly talented player. But Engram was clutch. He was a badly-needed safety valve for Hasselbeck, and a key reason we made it to SBXL*.

To me, the greatest #84 comes down to a decision between these two guys. For me, that decision is a push.
 

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I think for 'Best Seahawk at his number' no one represents #84 better than Engram.
 

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This one was a hard one for me too...but I had to go with Galloway too. He was just that dynamic a player. Second would be Bobby without a doubt....and a very close second...Like by a nostril hair. :mrgreen:

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I must add my voice to the chorus of those who went with Galloway. While no one can refute Engram's consistency and his value to our organization, based on pure athletic talent alone, Galloway was special. I vividly remember watching the draft and being disappointed as I watched the 49ers draft J.J. Stokes, as he was projected to be a the next Jerry Rice. However, I happily ate crow later on as I watched Galloway inject life into the Hawks and Stokes was never more than mediocre his entire career.
 

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I remember Sam and he was decent but Galloway was a huge playmaker ,so he is #1..
 
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#83
FirstLastCollegePosYearsGamesStarts
SteveRaibleGeorgie TechWR1976-1981848
ChrisCastorDukeWR1983-1984260
RayButlerSouthern CalWR1985-1988439
RodJonesWashingtonTE198940
TreyJunkinLouisiana TechTE/LS1990-1995922
RonnieWilliamsOklahoma StateTE1996143
TyreeDavisCentral ArkansasWR1997131
RobertWilsonFlorida A&MWR1997-1999180
KarstenBaileyAuburnWR1999-2000110
RyanHannamNorthern IowaTE2002-2005565
DeionBranchLouisvilleWR2006-20105443
StephenWilliamsToledoWR201340
RicardoLocketteFort Valley StWR2011, 2013131

In the Seahawks first ever college draft they had the 2nd overall pick, then THREE second round picks, THREE third round picks and THREE fourth round picks and THREE fifth round picks. Could you imagine what John Schneider could have done with all those draft choices? All told the Seahawks had 25 draft picks in 17 rounds, including a QB from Washington named Chris Rowland who was Warren Moon's backup.

Unfortunately, it's tough to build a team with that many rookies and most of those young players failed to contribute much to the future success of the team. One guy who did manage to carve out a nice career was a WR from Georgia Tech named Steve Raible but even his success was mainly on special teams and as a backup. Raible went on, of course, do to the color analysis for the Seahawk radio broadcast alongside the wonderful Pete Gross and he eventually took the job as play-by-play broadcaster. Raibles calls of the 2013 post-season games and Superbowl will be lodged in our minds for many years to come.

Here's Raible "back in the day".

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In years past your long snapper used to a backup lineman or TE. The first time I remember a guy staying on the team to do solely that job was Trey Junkin, who started out as a backup TE, even catching a pass here and there. Since then we've always had a guy who just did the long snapper job, but Junkin was our first ever true specialist.

The most recent #83 is Ricardo Lockette, who fills a role now similar to Raible's back then: Run fast on special teams and catch a pass once in a while. Maybe he has a career in broadcasting?

The MVP at #83 was probably the only guy I can ever remember who was both traded FROM and TO the same team. Deion Branch probably didn't have the career we expected from him, but he did manage to climb to 9th all-time in career receiving yards and touchdowns.

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Galloway was the only Seahawk jersey I owned up until I got a Russell Wilson this year. The sting I felt when Galloway left made me uneasy about buying a jersey ever since, but Wilson broke me out of it.
 
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