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SO I was looking at the videos of the so-called experts on the game last night. You would think Ne won. Its unbelievable 95% about Cam. very little on anything else. Wilson out plays him and nope all Cam. DK has a great game nope Cam, Defense come sup big nope Cam. Its hilarious how little respect the team, Wilson or any of the players get.
 

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John63":x9oe2m7h said:
SO I was looking at the videos of the so-called experts on the game last night. You would think Ne won. Its unbelievable 95% about Cam. very little on anything else. Wilson out plays him and nope all Cam. DK has a great game nope Cam, Defense come sup big nope Cam. Its hilarious how little respect the team, Wilson or any of the players get.
The one thing that cures disrespect is winning another Lombardi trophy.
Do that and they don’t have a choice.
 

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I've seen plenty of praise for both quarterbacks. I'm not sure where this arbitrary 95% is from.

And, not to be rude, but who cares? Ignore the talking heads. They're only there to fill time and get clicks.
 

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Just win a divisional playoff game.

We don't have anything close to a SB caliber defense.

But we have an all-time QB.





Here is what I will say:

After this whole COVID thing, if you have not seen this team play in person - do whatever you can to get to a game. Because you will be able to tell people you saw Wilson play in his prime. And he is an all-time great. We were lucky to have him.

Being able to see the greatest QB ever to play for Seattle is worth it. Get to a game.

Last night was the most frustrating win I can imagine but through it all I know we are so fortunate. We don't need the national media to tell us he is great. We know that. At least, finally, his own HC recognizes it instead of trying to hold him back. That should be enough.

If you haven't seen him in person, do what you need to in order to say you were there. Because almost assuredly we will not see a greater QB playing for the Hawks in decades, if not longer.
 

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Unless you're talking about the idiot Peter Schrager, I think MOST media types give Russ and the Hawks plenty of love.
And let's be honest, Cam looked as good or better than we have seen him play. Clearly the best he's ever played against the Hawks.
 

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TwistedHusky":1pjrg7gy said:
Just win a divisional playoff game.

We don't have anything close to a SB caliber defense.

But we have an all-time QB.





Here is what I will say:

After this whole COVID thing, if you have not seen this team play in person - do whatever you can to get to a game. Because you will be able to tell people you saw Wilson play in his prime. And he is an all-time great. We were lucky to have him.

Being able to see the greatest QB ever to play for Seattle is worth it. Get to a game.

Last night was the most frustrating win I can imagine but through it all I know we are so fortunate. We don't need the national media to tell us he is great. We know that. At least, finally, his own HC recognizes it instead of trying to hold him back. That should be enough.

If you haven't seen him in person, do what you need to in order to say you were there. Because almost assuredly we will not see a greater QB playing for the Hawks in decades, if not longer.

Saw him twice in Philly last year, and saw him in 2015 against the Ravens, which was the game Rawls injured his leg in. Russell is out of this world.
 

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The entire Twitterverse, that I saw, has been all over Russ's jock and rightfully so.

Maybe you should quit hate-following the handful of guys you already know don't like Wilson, and add some other criteria for how you pick the personalities you follow.
 

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Maybe you should change the "experts" that you follow. I have see nothing even close to what you apparantly are seeing. I've seen a lot of articles about the Moore TD....the Metcalf TD....articles calling for Wilson as MVP....Belichick's dislike of a question about his use of a timeout....and the Metcalf/Gilmore battle. However, I have seen very little mention about Cam himself other than what I would expect about a QB trying to resurrect his career.
 

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Depends on what time you turn on the TV set. The narratives evolve over a four hour window. The pundits know the viewer demographics for any given moment and adjust their narrative accordingly. At 4:00 am Pacific, it is 8:00 am Eastern and the talk is almost exclusively geared toward Eastern markets. At 8:00 am Pacific, it is noon Eastern and the narrative evolves into a more western friendly theme.

The narratives are market driven, profit driven. For example, the Cowboys miraculously beat an 0-2 team that isn't coached to understand the rules and this is the headline story at 04:00 am. If that doesn't wean you from seeking confirmation bias before you take your first sip of coffee, then it is your own fault for subjecting yourself to their story framing. Really, we all learned this in 2005 during the Seahawks first Super Bowl appearance. It was then that I first truly understood that there is no amount of winning or success that can resolve how the narratives from different time zones are being framed.

The stories are not directed at me, because there is less money in it for them. Because of this, I simply do not care about what they say. Their credibility is virtually zero for me although the need to legitimize them is appealing for many Westerners because of some weird need to feel a part of it all.

The NFL understands this. Their profitability tweaks are almost exclusively geared towards the West. The Raiders move to Las Vegas. The Rams and Chargers move to LA. The Seahawks move to the NFC. All of this is/was geared to prop up the marketability of the West Coast. The problem for the NFL is that the West Coast is not infatuated with the Eastern based sports media. In other words, you can't force feed the Cowboys on them in an effort to get them to turn on the TV at 10:00 am for their supposed "second favorite team". If the NFL truly wanted to inject enthusiasm into the West, they could start by adjusting the biased story framing of their own NFL Network instead of moving Western franchises around. That would be a good start to getting that huge LA population into taking interest in Pro Football. Do you think someone from LA wants to listen to relentless, persistent stories of how great Dak Prescott or Cam Newton is?

Living in the State of Washington, this is why I think Gonzaga Basketball is the best media story of the Pacific Northwest. Somehow, that program has become an East Coast darling. There is profitability in that brand to the extent that ESPN will prop up a rather unremarkable basketball conference to get that channel turned on at late night Eastern sports bars. Actually, an improving conference, and not so unremarkable anymore because of this national attention.
 

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I have a name for this, "myopic fan syndrome."

Myopic Fan Syndrome:
A fan who unreasonably without merit or facts through an emotional reaction with only watching and/or following his own team over a number of years that the national media does not like his team, even though there's no logical reason this would occur.


If this was a public service message, I'd say it inflicts every 4 out of 10 fans. In certain key demographics, the number can be even higher.

Maybe we need a Myopic Fan Syndrome awareness month, like prostate cancer.
 

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Cam is a former MVP who missed all of last season with a career-threatening injury, and is taking over the most successful American sports franchise of the past 20 years, in place of arguably the best quarterback in NFL history. The fact that he has looked good so far IS a significant story.

I've seen plenty of raving about Russ too. I was watching FS1 at the gym and Tony Gonzalez was on there calling Russ the "clear early MVP favorite".
 

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During the telecast last night they invested in a lengthy discussion about 0 MVP votes for Wilson. Whereupon Collinsworth shared there would have been 1 (his) had he not been late getting his vote turned in, which resulted in him being scuttled off the voting list.
So there's that.
 

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Russ gets love but in terms of most of the talking heads on last nights game, most every thing I saw was praising Cam.

Russ threw four TDs last nite, that matches what NE gave up all last season.

Granted, I didn’t go searching for Russ/Seahawk love, none the less I didn’t see any.
 

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I watched pretty much all the sports shows today. Colin Cowherd was the only one that gave Russell love. Him and Ryan Clark.

The vast majority of the coverage was about Cam and the Patriots. And I get it, but Russell has never gotten round the clock coverage for his greatness the way Cam, or Mahomes, Lamar, Rodgers has gotten.
 
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Scorpion05":1hjofqqp said:
I watched pretty much all the sports shows today. Colin Cowherd was the only one that gave Russell love. Him and Ryan Clark.

The vast majority of the coverage was about Cam and the Patriots. And I get it, but Russell has never gotten round the clock coverage for his greatness the way Cam, or Mahomes, Lamar, Rodgers has gotten.

Exactly
 

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Scorpion05":1ovshd8f said:
I watched pretty much all the sports shows today. Colin Cowherd was the only one that gave Russell love. Him and Ryan Clark.

The vast majority of the coverage was about Cam and the Patriots. And I get it, but Russell has never gotten round the clock coverage for his greatness the way Cam, or Mahomes, Lamar, Rodgers has gotten.

This is right. Literally all (most) of the talking heads could say about Russell was "oh we expect this from, now about Cam..." Like, who expects a QB to throw for 5 td's every game WTF?
 
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