Solid B, maybe B+

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danemychal is correct; the grades don't mean squat in outcomes. They don't help the team or players in any way.

But they can be fun to talk about and generate conversation around the team and players. That means a lot to some of us hungry for SeaHawks news.
 

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We just won the SB. Couldn't worry about this team or draft if I tried.
I feel every draft is important. Regardless of how we finished last season. We need to keep fulling the team out with role players and backups and potential starters at the rookie prices so we can save money for free agents and keeping the guys we want. Keep stacking those picks to keep team young, hungry, and cheap. Post Legion of boom we took wild swings at guys in the draft and it hurt the depth and character of the team in the long run. Don't let off the gas ever.
 

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It was a decent draft, when you take into account the fact that the Seahawks were drafting last, had only 4 picks to start with, and it was a bad draft class.

The grades the "experts" give are based on draft value. If you drafted someone at #6 that you could have gotten at #26, you get a bad grade, even if he's a good player.

It''s too early to tell what we have, but we'll see soon enough.
 

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At some point the grading system to me seemed rather dated and irresponsible.

Seahawks hit on 3 of my most drafted players in a lot of my mocks: Price, Clark, and Stephens.

They picked up a CB in Neal that I had on my shortlist of boundary corners. They also drafted not two but three CBs when I wanted at least 2.

Fuller was not on my short list, he barely missed out with 76 3/4 WS when 77 was the criteria although I had squeezed Devin Moore in at 76 7/8th. But Fuller had much better run defense strengths than two guys on my list in Davis and Payne, both of whom had crazy wingspans and tested well athletically that I had overlooked their okay to poor run defense opportunities.

They took a big DT, WR (or WR type RB) which I also wanted them to do but it was both guys that I didnt have on my radar.

By all means I should love what they did, and they did well, but not being able to trade down and then take Price still lingers as it would have been the most ideal scenario. Dont get me wrong i fully understand the situation and Buffalo and SFO monopolizing the opportunities. And fully aware that Price might have snatched up but that was always dependent on who drafted Love. But an additional late 3rd/early 4th would have been a game changer as it almost feels they lucked into the Stephens pick that honestly kicked this draft class up a notch.

And that is what this draft was to me very solid, they did what they needed to do, to not necessarily get better but stay the course and give them an opportunity to defend their ‘ship.

Now we wait to see what post draft free agency brings and honestly that might be just as exciting theres two guys that I think make tremendous sense and one guy that I just want even though I kind of dislike him personally but is talented and fits the scheme although he’s probably destined to be an Eagles after a certain trade.

Clowney, Wagner, and then Juaun Jennings.

Clowney just cuz he’s worked with Macdonald before and his run defense is the most solid out of the options. Believe 9.5 sacks last year, too. So he still got juice. And I honestly want to Lawrence and Clowney on the field together. But he’s probably the most expensive option so its likely Dante Fowler which looking at his numbers the last two years is still solid enough.

But it also leads me to why Im looking at Wagner.

Wagner just makes tremendous sense to me even though I’m back-tracking on previous statement earlier in free agency where I said, no and just let the young guys play.

Mostly this thought process churned while studying the edge group where each guy seemingly has a fatal flaw. Plus, the fact looking more into Wagner’s numbers saw him become one of the better pass-rushing options the last 4 years with 16 sacks after like only 12 in his other seasons.

He also make sense as Seahawks do lack a big bodied downhill interior thumper that would tremendously help in short yardage situations and he’s quality in that aspect of his game. Perfect depth hedge as a rotational player that can sap plenty of snaps from both Jones and Thomas to keep them fresher and stronger, and step-up as a full time starter if needed. But more importantly and doubling down on what I said about this class they can utilize Wagner on the edge and get better results than most of these prospects or it perhaps frees up Knight (which Id admit kind of keen on) to broaden his horizons, add at least 10 pounds of functional mass, and explore an edge type role. Data agrees as they both are highly graded pass rushers the last two years from the inside but it gives Seahawks opportunities to formulate endless possibilities which is right in Macdonald’s wheelhouse.

Fowler + Wagner are good additions to the finality of defensive needs.

And obviously Wagner only needs 60 tackles to break the all-time record which even though I don’t necessarily envision him as a full-time starter is still achievable. He probably has the capability to play all LBing positions as well as edge, like honestly I feel his overall ceiling can just be in the very least just as good as Mafe last year and also be a designated cleaner in mop-up duties during blowouts, its less than 4 tackle per game. It would just be icing on the cake for his career to do it in this uniform and maybe win another Superbowl.

Juaun Jennings, like 3 years maybe 15 per plus void years for reasonably small 2026 cap hit. Just feel like he has a similar skillset not exact or as good in some aspects but better in some, would kill it in our Cooper Kupp role. Yet my money is that he signs with Eagles after they trade AJ Brown. Like us they are protecting 4 comp picks.
 
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Grading a draft before any games are played is a fool’s errand. Plenty of people more qualified than me and the Hawks fans in this forum have graded past drafts and been dead wrong. Unless you know the FO’s rationale and intentions for each pick, your grade isn’t worth squat.

No it’s not.

Sure things can change for better or worse but it’s absolutely feasible to grade based on what we currently know about players chosen and team needs.

Easy to have an initial grade, mid term grade, and final grade.
 

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I feel every draft is important. Regardless of how we finished last season. We need to keep fulling the team out with role players and backups and potential starters at the rookie prices so we can save money for free agents and keeping the guys we want. Keep stacking those picks to keep team young, hungry, and cheap. Post Legion of boom we took wild swings at guys in the draft and it hurt the depth and character of the team in the long run. Don't let off the gas ever.
And they didn't let off the gas. Go Hawks
 

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What are the parameters of the grading here?

Did the team get some good players? Will those players fill positions of need adequately? Is the team better or worse by the addition of these players?

Will these players perform at drafted levels or is there growth for them to be expected?

Is it reasonable to think that several of the drafted will be players that are special?

Frankly until we see some of these guys play grading is intellectually lazy sheit based upon assessments of ability relying upon opinions of others, the draft gurus, or group thought. Are those opinions a sound basis for assessment or grading?

To me the team needed a solid RB, a good FS, a CB or two or three, more depth a OG, a big NT for depth, and a developmental WR with potential. They got all of thar despite only staring with 4 draft picks. Still they didn’t draft an edge rusher.

We can say that most of the depth is from late picks so we don’t know for sure how they are going to work out.

Grade? Who knows, Price may suck, Clark may underwhelm, none of the three drafted CBs will play well, problems may continue at RG, and the WR may not even make the team, or the NT either. Somehow though I suspect the team is better at scouting than some here accept. At least a few of these players may be better than backups. If so the draft was another success.

Way too soon to grade unless you want an opinion based upon group thinking.

There considering the team started with 4 picks, 3 of which were at the end of the first three rounds but ended up with 8 picks leads to a belief the GM is good at trading albeit the bulk of the picks came late. My only grumble was the team didn’t draft a young but potentially able edge.

For now I’d personally score the draft results high and will ignore any negativity about Price who I predict will be special.
 
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I liked the draft as a whole. Give it a solid B/B+ as well, based on starting with 4 picks, optimism, and what little knowledge I gained looking at stats, analysis, and measurables while doing a pretty crazy amount of 7 round mocks over the last couple months.

I targeted certain players in position groups of need that I thought would be good fits. I thought it was cool that those players included our first 4 picks and Andre Fuller. The spots picked were way different and I had different safeties, corners, and guards that I was targeting first, second, third, etc. But still pretty cool doing a lot of mocks and seeing us take guys I actually thought could fit the team.

Really hoping we sign a pass rusher to get in the rotation.
 

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I am on record with a C plus.

Some instructors hand out A's for showing up with multiple choice test scores. Some will grade you based on a 10 page essay as a midterm that you get 40 minutes to write. Some grade on a curve. Some let you use the textbook with the exams.

1. We didn't draft an edge. Several nice choices were available at 32. Fell right to us.
2. Jadarian is a fine player. Sure was alot of people trading up and down. Guess we could not get it done. 32 was a reach for RB.
3. Several RB's with good value later in the draft.
4. Players from the Big 12 and other weaker divisions have less quality competion.
5. Had a philosophy instructor pull me aside He says, "I really enjoyed that paper on Religion It was spot on. But this essay on ethics is not your best work." This was not John's best work, I got spoiled last year.

If in 3 years if 3 guys from this draft are on the roster I would be happy.
 
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I am on record with a C plus.

Some instructors hand out A's for showing up with multiple choice test scores. Some will grade you based on a 10 page essay as a midterm that you get 40 minutes to write. Some grade on a curve. Some let you use the textbook with the exams.

1. We didn't draft an edge. Several nice choices were available at 32. Fell right to us.
Edge isn't the need as much as other positions.
2. Jadarian is a fine player. Sure was alot of people trading up and down. Guess we could not get it done. 32 was a reach for RB.
JP is the only back other than Love in the draft that can start right away. Our RB room is banged up and depleted
3. Several RB's with good value later in the draft.
None of them are even remotely close to JP
4. Players from the Big 12 and other weaker divisions have less quality competion.
That is hilariously false. Case in point: The MAC has weaker competition and Toledo churns out great DB's like clockwork
5. Had a philosophy instructor pull me aside He says, "I really enjoyed that paper on Religion It was spot on. But this essay on ethics is not your best work." This was not John's best work, I got spoiled last year.
Other than Edge we have addressed every single need in the draft and well might I add.
If in 3 years if 3 guys from this draft are on the roster I would be happy.
 

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I’ll give it a C. Drafted BPA at best positions of need. Even got some of the players I wanted. I really like their line guys class but I give it a C because we haven’t seen any one of these guys on an NFL field yet. I like their line potential though.
I could just as easily say “I give it an A++++ because we haven’t seen any of these guys on an NFL field yet. “

So no team gets better than a C? Post draft grades, if we choose to participate, should be given based on the available information at the time, which doesn’t include how the players will perform on an NFL field, because we don’t have that information for any of them.

Otherwise it would just be giving every team a C.
 

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Fun conversation at least. We really won't know for a couple of years. But look how many guys JS has picked who were "who's that?" type of players, only to see them contribute. He's done very well with UDFA's too.
Seems like a pretty solid draft considering they only had 4 picks going in, and late in rounds. Hard to expect too much at 32 in a supposedly weak draft. And they came out with one hell of a RB, with plenty left on those tires. Plus, a beast Guard. Two big time needs filled, imo. Clark and Neal look like solid players too. More competition added to the best defense on the planet.
I suspect they'll pick up a DE after the June 1 cuts.
 
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Solid draft but today we’re signing Dante Fowler to complete the rotation on the D line
 
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What are the parameters of the grading here?

Did the team get some good players? Will those players fill positions of need adequately? Is the team better or worse by the addition of these players?

Will these players perform at drafted levels or is there growth for them to be expected?

Is it reasonable to think that several of the drafted will be players that are special?

Frankly until we see some of these guys play grading is intellectually lazy sheit based upon assessments of ability relying upon opinions of others, the draft gurus, or group thought. Are those opinions a sound basis for assessment or grading?

To me the team needed a solid RB, a good FS, a CB or two or three, more depth a OG, a big NT for depth, and a developmental WR with potential. They got all of thar despite only staring with 4 draft picks. Still they didn’t draft an edge rusher.

We can say that most of the depth is from late picks so we don’t know for sure how they are going to work out.

Grade? Who knows, Price may suck, Clark may underwhelm, none of the three drafted CBs will play well, problems may continue at RG, and the WR may not even make the team, or the NT either. Somehow though I suspect the team is better at scouting than some here accept. At least a few of these players may be better than backups. If so the draft was another success.

Way too soon to grade unless you want an opinion based upon group thinking.

There considering the team started with 4 picks, 3 of which were at the end of the first three rounds but ended up with 8 picks leads to a belief the GM is good at trading albeit the bulk of the picks came late. My only grumble was the team didn’t draft a young but potentially able edge.

For now I’d personally score the draft results high and will ignore any negativity about Price who I predict will be special.


No specific parameters, set your own and offer your opinion.

Nothing lazy about spending a bit of time thinking about what took place, doing a bit of research and coming up with grade based on where your curiosity and knowledge takes you.

Hell, it would even be OK to take free agency into account before you commit.
 

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I'm going to get some hate for this but I think their draft was a C-

I think the only one that I loved was Neal and I'm Luke warm on Bud. I don't like drafting a RB with fumbling issues but I will see how it works out. This draft is overall hard to stand outs it was more about finding depth and I was annoyed too 3 CB and no LB help. I knew DE was not going to be an issue since we are going to dip into FA after the draft.
 

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Grading a draft before any games are played is a fool’s errand. Plenty of people more qualified than me and the Hawks fans in this forum have graded past drafts and been dead wrong. Unless you know the FO’s rationale and intentions for each pick, your grade isn’t worth squat.
So, like, this is a message board. It only works with an exchange of ideas.

Thanks for the most obvious input - that we know two things: jack and shit.
 
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