So who ends up trading for Sherman

[Seymour]

....Also Pete goes after players with "chips on the shoulder". You should expect this type of "behavior" from time to time from players, especially outspoken ones....

I do expect it from time to time personally. I don't expect it to go on and entire season, then by all indication the following season as well. We aren't the first team to lose a superstar to attitude problems, nor will we be the last.

Had Pete told Sherm to ST*U a few times do you think this would have turned out any different? I don't. This boils down to Sherms ego believing he is working with inferior coaches IMO.

 

[Rocket]

Pete created the "Frankenstein monster" that is RS by the way he runs the team and gives the players a lot of rope to be themselves and be outspoken. Also Pete goes after players with "chips on the shoulder". You should expect this type of "behavior" from time to time from players, especially outspoken ones, as it comes with the territory due to the way the team is run. IMHO you should take the bad with the good when you run things in that manner.

So true, so true. Good call Bro.

 

[classicaaron]

I doubt many people support it, he's one of the best in the game. But if he's going to act like a jack wagon again, when is enough just enough?

Pete created the "Frankenstein monster" that is RS by the way he runs the team and gives the players a lot of rope to be themselves and be outspoken. Also Pete goes after players with "chips on the shoulder". You should expect this type of "behavior" from time to time from players, especially outspoken ones, as it comes with the territory due to the way the team is run. IMHO you should take the bad with the good when you run things in that manner.

my thoughts exactly. Pete has wanted players to express their personality and now that they have on an issue he may not agree with he doesn't like it. well too bad for Pete. he built the team on this philosophy and if he starts to change it he will just start to lose the team because his word wont be worth crap.

and I agree Sherman talks a bit much. but him having problem with the coordinators is warranted. you could view it as leadership for pointing out a problem instead of just lying down and watching the team go down the toilet.

Sherman is good enough to deal with his extra antics. franchises try to build a defense on an elite corner and here we have one and want to get rid of him. I just don't get it.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Why not keep it behind closed doors? In what way is it acceptable to freak out on the field at your coaches, let alone having your teammates having to calm you down because you're having a hissy fit?

 

[Sports Hernia]

Calling out coaches, on the field, is flat out uncalled for. I don't care what player it is.
I don't mind cocky Sherm, but better than everyone else/calling people out in public/refuse to admit he's every wrong about anything EVER Sherm? Nope
And I flat out don't want him to be traded. It doesn't make the team better in any way.

Normally I'd agree but when the assistant coaching staff isnt held accountable and doesn't admit to THEIR mistakes, and then throws players under the bus instead of manning up and taking responsibility, it leads to the situation they are in. Getting rid of Sherm isn't going to fix the above problems I've pointed out.

 

[zchurch74]

I like when Sherm is being disruptive. I'm not sure if this has already been said but back when he was telling people to keep his name out their mouths and calling other WRs mediocre we were winning and won the Super Bowl.

He has an attitude on the field. Its war out there for him. Like Montana said, prove to me its affecting his actual play on the field, then I will agree it MIGHT be time to trade.

 

[Sports Hernia]

Why not keep it behind closed doors? In what way is it acceptable to freak out on the field at your coaches, let alone having your teammates having to calm you down because you're having a hissy fit?

How do you know it wasn't brought up behind closed doors??? I'm sure it was.
.....and apparently they didn't address the issue to Sherm's liking, so he went public.

We can argue if that was that the right or smart thing to do, but I've dealt with employer created problems at work that are causing problems with "production" and nothing ever gets done and the employees are the ones that have to deal with the aftermath and how frustrating it is.

So while Sherm probably could have handled the situation better, so could the Hawks FO and coaching staff. .......and while our jobs are vastly different I understand RS's frustration when issues are not addressed by those above you.

 

[Sports Hernia]

I like when Sherm is being disruptive. I'm not sure if this has already been said but back when he was telling people to keep his name out their mouths and calling other WRs mediocre we were winning and won the Super Bowl.

He has an attitude on the field. Its war out there for him. Like Montana said, prove to me its affecting his actual play on the field, then I will agree it MIGHT be time to trade.

BINGO!

 

[Sgt. Largent]

I like when Sherm is being disruptive. I'm not sure if this has already been said but back when he was telling people to keep his name out their mouths and calling other WRs mediocre we were winning and won the Super Bowl.

He has an attitude on the field. Its war out there for him. Like Montana said, prove to me its affecting his actual play on the field, then I will agree it MIGHT be time to trade.

It changed when he started pointing that rage inward on his own coaches and teammates.

Go after all the Skip Bayless's of the world you want to, but you don't turn it on your own team.

 

[NJlargent]

I get the concern about pointing at coaches, but it shows fire and we need that. I also see no evidence that in effected anyone on the team. If anything it serves as a way to hold our coaches accountable, which has been lacking according to more than a few.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

I get the concern about pointing at coaches, but it shows fire and we need that. I also see no evidence that in effected anyone on the team. If anything it serves as a way to hold our coaches accountable, which has been lacking according to more than a few.

It obviously affected the team enough for our FO to want to trade him (or Sherman asking to be traded). That's all the evidence I need.

 

[Uncle Si]

I get the concern about pointing at coaches, but it shows fire and we need that. I also see no evidence that in effected anyone on the team. If anything it serves as a way to hold our coaches accountable, which has been lacking according to more than a few.

It obviously affected the team enough for our FO to want to trade him (or Sherman asking to be traded). That's all the evidence I need.

Well the team wanting to trade him and him wanting to be traded are very, very different things. I side with SH on this. While I'm not against getting a haul for Sherman if the offer is right, his issues are emblematic of a team/staff that did not address a major event.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

I get the concern about pointing at coaches, but it shows fire and we need that. I also see no evidence that in effected anyone on the team. If anything it serves as a way to hold our coaches accountable, which has been lacking according to more than a few.

It obviously affected the team enough for our FO to want to trade him (or Sherman asking to be traded). That's all the evidence I need.

Well the team wanting to trade him and him wanting to be traded are very, very different things. I side with SH on this. While I'm not against getting a haul for Sherman if the offer is right, his issues are emblematic of a team/staff that did not address a major event.

I side with Pete on this one, because for 40 years of coaching he's been one of the most fair and player friendly coaches in the history of the game. So if this relationship with Sherman isn't working out, it's on Sherman's unwillingness to do what is expected of him.

 

[mikeak]

I get the concern about pointing at coaches, but it shows fire and we need that. I also see no evidence that in effected anyone on the team. If anything it serves as a way to hold our coaches accountable, which has been lacking according to more than a few.

It is not mutually exclusive to blame our coaches for not being held accountable AND to hold Sherman accountable for the way that he publically "communicated" his displeasure......

 

[StoneCold]

I like when Sherm is being disruptive. I'm not sure if this has already been said but back when he was telling people to keep his name out their mouths and calling other WRs mediocre we were winning and won the Super Bowl.

He has an attitude on the field. Its war out there for him. Like Montana said, prove to me its affecting his actual play on the field, then I will agree it MIGHT be time to trade.

BINGO!

I'm all over this sentiment. Prove he is a distraction that hurts the team's on field play. Has he dome some eye brow raising stuff this last year? Yes. We have a few weirdos here at work and we put up with them because they kick ass for us. It's the price you pay.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

I like reading all the takes, we all feel strong about our opinions. In the end, I want him to get over himself a bit and just play ball. This team immediately gets worse without him.
Hopefully he plays a couple more years in Seattle. If not, there certainly has been reasons for him being traded.

 

[Seymour]

I like when Sherm is being disruptive. I'm not sure if this has already been said but back when he was telling people to keep his name out their mouths and calling other WRs mediocre we were winning and won the Super Bowl.

He has an attitude on the field. Its war out there for him. Like Montana said, prove to me its affecting his actual play on the field, then I will agree it MIGHT be time to trade.

BINGO!

I'm all over this sentiment. Prove he is a distraction that hurts the team's on field play. Has he dome some eye brow raising stuff this last year? Yes. We have a few weirdos here at work and we put up with them because they kick ass for us. It's the price you pay.

“Richard went through a lot last year and most of it self-inflicted,’’ Carroll said.

Between that and the team putting him on the trading blocks, that should be enough for most to realize he is hurting the team. Every player interview during that time got asked about what is going on with Sherm, do you suppose they enjoy that line of questioning and distraction?
Do you think they want to trade him because he's a crappy player, or possibly another issue we don't know about?

 

[StoneCold]

I like when Sherm is being disruptive. I'm not sure if this has already been said but back when he was telling people to keep his name out their mouths and calling other WRs mediocre we were winning and won the Super Bowl.

He has an attitude on the field. Its war out there for him. Like Montana said, prove to me its affecting his actual play on the field, then I will agree it MIGHT be time to trade.

BINGO!

I'm all over this sentiment. Prove he is a distraction that hurts the team's on field play. Has he dome some eye brow raising stuff this last year? Yes. We have a few weirdos here at work and we put up with them because they kick ass for us. It's the price you pay.

“Richard went through a lot last year and most of it self-inflicted,’’ Carroll said.

Between that and the team putting him on the trading blocks, that should be enough for most to realize he is hurting the team. Every player interview during that time got asked about what is going on with Sherm, do you suppose they enjoy that line of questioning and distraction?
Do you think they want to trade him because he's a crappy player, or possibly another issue we don't know about?

I don't buy the reports that any of this is happening because Richard asked to be traded nor because PC/JS are tired of Sherms act. I think they always listen to offers and the media is making a big deal of this because it's possible there is some juicy gossip behind it all. We shall see.

 

[Seymour]

“Richard went through a lot last year and most of it self-inflicted,’’ Carroll said.

Between that and the team putting him on the trading blocks, that should be enough for most to realize he is hurting the team. Every player interview during that time got asked about what is going on with Sherm, do you suppose they enjoy that line of questioning and distraction?
Do you think they want to trade him because he's a crappy player, or possibly another issue we don't know about?

I don't buy the reports that any of this is happening because Richard asked to be traded nor because PC/JS are tired of Sherms act. I think they always listen to offers and the media is making a big deal of this because it's possible there is some juicy gossip behind it all. We shall see.

“What you’ve seen lately in the news is real,” Schneider told “Brock and Salk” in an interview that aired Wednesday. “That’s on both sides.”

You don't buy it? So you believe Schneider is lying here, or just trolling Sherman for the heck of it?

 

[StoneCold]

“Richard went through a lot last year and most of it self-inflicted,’’ Carroll said.

Between that and the team putting him on the trading blocks, that should be enough for most to realize he is hurting the team. Every player interview during that time got asked about what is going on with Sherm, do you suppose they enjoy that line of questioning and distraction?
Do you think they want to trade him because he's a crappy player, or possibly another issue we don't know about?

I don't buy the reports that any of this is happening because Richard asked to be traded nor because PC/JS are tired of Sherms act. I think they always listen to offers and the media is making a big deal of this because it's possible there is some juicy gossip behind it all. We shall see.

“What you’ve seen lately in the news is real,” Schneider told “Brock and Salk” in an interview that aired Wednesday. “That’s on both sides.”

You don't buy it? So you believe Schneider is lying here, or just trolling Sherman for the heck of it?

No, I don't think it means what you think it means. I think it says an offer for Richard came in they thought about, let Richard know they were thinking about it. He also says that 98 percent of that they consider never happens. That doesn't sound like an urgent problem they are trying to solve.