So this is Geno on Shane-Ball?

[olyfan63]

All this talk of Pete-Ball, but to me this looks like Shane-Ball, finally, as Waldron drew it up, but we never really saw with Wilson. Waldron seems to have a scheme for keeping Geno out of trouble, putting him in position to make throws that are his strength (lots of lasers in the intermediate 10-15 yd range, many in the center of the field). Also, Waldron and Geno seem to be on the same page, like that designed run Geno did for a first down, where the corner went with the receiver. I'm guessing Waldron saw it on film, told Geno to look for it, Geno saw it and executed.

Also, kudos to Waldron for Penny's 2 big TD runs on 3rd down... and to the O-Line and Penny as well, not to mention that game-clinching 3rd down run by Penny. On the 2 TDs, Waldron's play-calls caught the Lions in a blitz, defenders got trapped inside, and Penny took it to the house. Again, something I'm betting Waldron noticed on film and in tendency analytics on the opponent, and was ready for with the right play, and the players executed brilliantly.

Even Pete-haters have to see this isn't your father's Pete-ball, it looks like Waldron is calling the shots, and not feeling bound by the old "impose our will" garbage, and instead the offense is looking for opponent weaknesses to exploit, and then going after them.

So, does Waldron deserve as much credit as I'm giving him, or perhaps even more? Can we call it Shane-Ball now, on the offensive side?

 

[JPatera76]

Umm yes?

I say yes because even watching Denver games…and rooting against them they look literally the same as we have the last 5yrs with Russ

So imma say yes Yes Geno-Shane ball.

 

[nwHawk]

Geno-Shaneball is a welcome sight to the crap the previous QB-OCs put out there.

 

[toffee]

All this talk of Pete-Ball, but to me this looks like Shane-Ball, finally, as Waldron drew it up, but we never really saw with Wilson. Waldron seems to have a scheme for keeping Geno out of trouble, putting him in position to make throws that are his strength (lots of lasers in the intermediate 10-15 yd range, many in the center of the field). Also, Waldron and Geno seem to be on the same page, like that designed run Geno did for a first down, where the corner went with the receiver. I'm guessing Waldron saw it on film, told Geno to look for it, Geno saw it and executed.

Also, kudos to Waldron for Penny's 2 big TD runs on 3rd down... and to the O-Line and Penny as well, not to mention that game-clinching 3rd down run by Penny. On the 2 TDs, Waldron's play-calls caught the Lions in a blitz, defenders got trapped inside, and Penny took it to the house. Again, something I'm betting Waldron noticed on film and in tendency analytics on the opponent, and was ready for with the right play, and the players executed brilliantly.

Even Pete-haters have to see this isn't your father's Pete-ball, it looks like Waldron is calling the shots, and not feeling bound by the old "impose our will" garbage, and instead the offense is looking for opponent weaknesses to exploit, and then going after them.

So, does Waldron deserve as much credit as I'm giving him, or perhaps even more? Can we call it Shane-Ball now, on the offensive side?

Impose our will was a bit of Schotty thing? right?

 

[toffee]

Bronco's punter is way busier than ours, we had zero punt, they already into not ONE, not TWO, but THREE punts.

 

[hox]

I thought one of the Penny TD runs was due to a Geno audible.

 

[Hollandhawk]

Umm yes?

I say yes because even watching Denver games…and rooting against them they look literally the same as we have the last 5yrs with Russ

So imma say yes Yes Geno-Shane ball.

Obviously Carroll is holding back Denver's OC and Wilson.

 

[toffee]

AND yes, three sacks already on our first ballot HOF QB, while our #32 ranked QB enjoyed ZERO sack today.

 

[Fade]

Pete's got his hands full with the defense, he doesn't have time to meddle with the offense.

Shane Ball all of the way. Even had a zoom sweep with Eskridge.

 

[Maelstrom787]

I'm sure Pete will magically have found time whenever anything bad happens, though. Kinda how it works.

 

[olyfan63]

Impose our will was a bit of Schotty thing? right?

I recall the "impose our will" thing as being 100% Pete Carroll, circa 2012-2013 with Beastmode in the backfield. Recall seeing Pete quoted this way multiple times. Maybe Schotty said it too, but if so, IMO, it was just parroting what Carroll had said multiple times and nearly worn out. I always felt that was a key difference between Hoodie and Pete, is that Hoodie was about looking for opponent weaknesses to exploit, while Carroll would run into the teeth of an opponent's strength just to (try) to prove a misguided macho point.

 

[toffee]

I recall the "impose our will" thing as being 100% Pete Carroll, circa 2012-2013 with Beastmode in the backfield. Recall seeing Pete quoted this way multiple times. Maybe Schotty said it too, but if so, IMO, it was just parroting what Carroll had said multiple times and nearly worn out. I always felt that was a key difference between Hoodie and Pete, is that Hoodie was about looking for opponent weaknesses to exploit, while Carroll would run into the teeth of an opponent's strength just to (try) to prove a misguided macho point.

Thanks and I stand corrected.

 

[LeaveLynchAlone]

All this talk of Pete-Ball, but to me this looks like Shane-Ball, finally, as Waldron drew it up, but we never really saw with Wilson. Waldron seems to have a scheme for keeping Geno out of trouble, putting him in position to make throws that are his strength (lots of lasers in the intermediate 10-15 yd range, many in the center of the field). Also, Waldron and Geno seem to be on the same page, like that designed run Geno did for a first down, where the corner went with the receiver. I'm guessing Waldron saw it on film, told Geno to look for it, Geno saw it and executed.

Also, kudos to Waldron for Penny's 2 big TD runs on 3rd down... and to the O-Line and Penny as well, not to mention that game-clinching 3rd down run by Penny. On the 2 TDs, Waldron's play-calls caught the Lions in a blitz, defenders got trapped inside, and Penny took it to the house. Again, something I'm betting Waldron noticed on film and in tendency analytics on the opponent, and was ready for with the right play, and the players executed brilliantly.

Even Pete-haters have to see this isn't your father's Pete-ball, it looks like Waldron is calling the shots, and not feeling bound by the old "impose our will" garbage, and instead the offense is looking for opponent weaknesses to exploit, and then going after them.

So, does Waldron deserve as much credit as I'm giving him, or perhaps even more? Can we call it Shane-Ball now, on the offensive side?

Bravo...wonderful narrative shift. Not at all convincing, but it will help many here sleep at night.

 

[Polk738]

This should've been a tell when Schotty was told to hit the road and they brought in Shane Waldron, but the offense still sucked-Geno in this offense is like night and day compared to when Wilson was running it, Geno doesn't play hero, takes what the defense gives him, doesn't take unnecessary sacks and just moves the chains-we didn't punt a SINGLE time today, with GENO SMITH!! Wilson WAS the problem and it's very apparent on the Broncos-he'll be relying on the elite defense to bail him out all season.

 

[DarkVictory23]

I think "impose our will" for a team with Marshawn Lynch in the backfield wasn't too bad of a plan.

Throw on how we were using our young QB at the time, it wasn't a bad strategy at the time.

 

[LeaveLynchAlone]

Pete's got his hands full with the defense, he doesn't have time to meddle with the offense.

Shane Ball all of the way. Even had a zoom sweep with Eskridge.

Keep pushing that boulder. Don't give up.

 

[scutterhawk]

As it has ALWAYS been, IF the Offense is moving the ball, Pete will stay the hell away from interfering with the script, but if they're struggling, don't expect him to stand aside.
NO MATTER what he does, he is the one who catches hell from everybody anyways, as HE IS the Head Coach.
It used to be that everyone was pi$$ing & moaning because he wanted to run the ball too much, anyone still believe that? Not I says me. LOL

 

[hox]

Balanced, efficient attack. Looks like Pete Ball to me. The "run more" thing has always been a myth. It's about balance.



The difference? Player execution.

 

[Hollandhawk]

Balanced, efficient attack. Looks like Pete Ball to me. The "run more" thing has always been a myth. It's about balance.

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The difference? Player execution.

Another poster made this point in a different thread. In today's NFL this would be considered run heavy. And there's nothing wrong with that.

 

[olyfan63]

Balanced, efficient attack. Looks like Pete Ball to me. The "run more" thing has always been a myth. It's about balance.

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The difference? Player execution.

Absolutely. Shane-ball has to work within the constraints of Carroll's overall philosophy, and today it sure did.