Seattle Sounders 2015 Season Thread

[Seabhac]

So - do Red cards from USOC carry over to MLS?
We play Portland again in 11 days....

 

[Seahawks1983]

So - do Red cards from USOC carry over to MLS?
We play Portland again in 11 days....

No.

 

[Seabhac]

So - I'm reading this morning that some people want the book thrown at Dempsey.

3 Months ban for ASSAULT- which would put him out of the MLS until September and the Gold Cup.

It will be interesting to see if U.S. Soccer shoot themselves in the foot and deny Dempsey what may be the last Major tournament of his career.

They have 2 choices:
Punish Dempsey - set an example. Get more respect for referees.
Don't punish Dempsey - and by default admit that some of these referees shouldn't be working.

 

[Uncle Si]

So - I'm reading this morning that some people want the book thrown at Dempsey.

3 Months ban for ASSAULT- which would put him out of the MLS until September and the Gold Cup.

It will be interesting to see if U.S. Soccer shoot themselves in the foot and deny Dempsey what may be the last Major tournament of his career.

They have 2 choices:
Punish Dempsey - set an example. Get more respect for referees.
Don't punish Dempsey - and by default admit that some of these referees shouldn't be working.

He should get a ban, but not a lengthy one.

I can see 4-6 games on top of the double yellow.

 

[Seabhac]

I guess US Soccer and MLS bans would be separate. USSF would be for USOC and USMT.
MLS would ban at their discretion.

Any USSF ban puts him out of Gold Cup - which could be good for the Sounders if MLS doesn't follow suit.

 

[Seabhac]

One other very cool thing about last night:
Steve Zakuwani, Deandre Yedlin and Gonzalo Pineda were in the stands watching the game as fans.

 

[Uncle Si]

I guess US Soccer and MLS bans would be separate. USSF would be for USOC and USMT.
MLS would ban at their discretion.

Any USSF ban puts him out of Gold Cup - which could be good for the Sounders if MLS doesn't follow suit.

Why would you want him out of the Gold Cup?

And really any ban should take immediate effect into his next playing opportunity, as it did with Suarez.

 

[SeatownJay]

At least Dempsey didn't go this far.

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[Seabhac]

Why would you want him out of the Gold Cup?

Sounders>USMT - in my world

 

[Uncle Si]

Why would you want him out of the Gold Cup?

Sounders>USMT - in my world

Racist

 

[Smurf]

Clint Dempsey being suspended for the Gold Cup would end up being beneficial for the Nats. His inclusion forces the team into a shape which I feel isn't the best with the pool of players.


Don't get me wrong, Clint Dempsey is an incredible player...but I feel the collective group is better tactically without him, than it is with him.

 

[Uncle Si]

Clint Dempsey being suspended for the Gold Cup would end up being beneficial for the Nats. His inclusion forces the team into a shape which I feel isn't the best with the pool of players.


Don't get me wrong, Clint Dempsey is an incredible player...but I feel the collective group is better tactically without him, than it is with him.

Based on what comparison?


The issue comes when Jurgen shoe horns Clint, Jozy and Bradley into the lineup, sliding Bradley into the deeper lying role. The recent tour should have proven he has far better value closer to the striker and linking the final 3rd attack rather than the middle zone possession. This was still relatively strong enough to bow out to a very strong Belgium team in the World Cup.

Ideally, I'd like him there for his leadership. Plus, he gives the team an option out wide and is far and away their best technical attacker.

 

[CurryStopstheRuns]

Don't know if they can punish him...

https://mobile.twitter.com/SamBorden/st ... 1416685568

 

[Seahawks1983]

I guess US Soccer and MLS bans would be separate. USSF would be for USOC and USMT.
MLS would ban at their discretion.

Any USSF ban puts him out of Gold Cup - which could be good for the Sounders if MLS doesn't follow suit.

Since USSF sanctions MLS, it stands to reason that any ban the federation doles out will apply to all competitions. MLS could in theory suspend him further if they wanted to, but I don't see the point.

I would guess he is looking at a multi game suspension, but 3 months would be absolutely egregious.

 

[Smurf]

Clint Dempsey being suspended for the Gold Cup would end up being beneficial for the Nats. His inclusion forces the team into a shape which I feel isn't the best with the pool of players.


Don't get me wrong, Clint Dempsey is an incredible player...but I feel the collective group is better tactically without him, than it is with him.

Based on what comparison?


The issue comes when Jurgen shoe horns Clint, Jozy and Bradley into the lineup, sliding Bradley into the deeper lying role. The recent tour should have proven he has far better value closer to the striker and linking the final 3rd attack rather than the middle zone possession. This was still relatively strong enough to bow out to a very strong Belgium team in the World Cup.

Ideally, I'd like him there for his leadership. Plus, he gives the team an option out wide and is far and away their best technical attacker.

Dempsey and Bradley on the pitch at the same time means that one of them isn't playing in their best position. At this point in the game I think Bradley is an overall more influential player for our team.

 

[knownone]

Dempsey is still the best attacking option we have. It's hard to argue against having him in the squad honestly.

 

[Uncle Si]

Clint Dempsey being suspended for the Gold Cup would end up being beneficial for the Nats. His inclusion forces the team into a shape which I feel isn't the best with the pool of players.


Don't get me wrong, Clint Dempsey is an incredible player...but I feel the collective group is better tactically without him, than it is with him.

Based on what comparison?


The issue comes when Jurgen shoe horns Clint, Jozy and Bradley into the lineup, sliding Bradley into the deeper lying role. The recent tour should have proven he has far better value closer to the striker and linking the final 3rd attack rather than the middle zone possession. This was still relatively strong enough to bow out to a very strong Belgium team in the World Cup.

Ideally, I'd like him there for his leadership. Plus, he gives the team an option out wide and is far and away their best technical attacker.

Dempsey and Bradley on the pitch at the same time means that one of them isn't playing in their best position. At this point in the game I think Bradley is an overall more influential player for our team.

I would disagree that it means that one of them isn't playing their best position. To that, what's Dempsey's best position? It's not CAM, not at the national team level. Klinsmann plays them both out of their best positions. Ideally, he has realized how much more of an impact Bradley is in the 10 role and is willing to move Dempsey out wide, as he did with Ghana.

Also, with the added speed from the use of Yedlin as an outside mid, it would not surprise me to see the US move to a 4 diamond 2. Dempsey would be a good complimentary striker to Jozy with Bradley pulling the strings.

 

[Uncle Si]

Dempsey is still the best attacking option we have. It's hard to argue against having him in the squad honestly.

He's not quite the best attacking option the US has anymore. However, he does deserve to be in the squad.

 

[knownone]

Dempsey is still the best attacking option we have. It's hard to argue against having him in the squad honestly.

He's not quite the best attacking option the US has anymore. However, he does deserve to be in the squad.

Who do you like better? Johannsson is the only guy on the Gold Cup roster that is in the conversation for me, and honestly it's really not that close.

 

[Uncle Si]

Dempsey is still the best attacking option we have. It's hard to argue against having him in the squad honestly.

He's not quite the best attacking option the US has anymore. However, he does deserve to be in the squad.

Who do you like better? Johannsson is the only guy on the Gold Cup roster that is in the conversation for me, and honestly it's really not that close.

I suppose some of is what you deem an "attacker". I certainly think the team needs less of Chris Wondolowski and more of Jordan Morris (and hopefully Bobby Wood)

For me, our best forward moving player is Bradley, if deployed higher up the field as he was in the Netherlands and Germany. After that, I still think the likes of Jozy and even Yedlin from the wing bring more to the overall attack than Dempsey does at the moment. I'd love to see Clint out wide with a fast wing back overlapping him, then remove him for Yedlin.

Put Zardes on the other and you can run pace from high on one end, and build pace on the other.