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[James in PA]

Draft picks are resources. The entire lines is on rookie contracts thus not expensive. There are really good pieces on this line they just need time.

You should consider a career as John Schneider's public relations consultant.

 

[Seahawker]

I think you're being too conservative going with only 3. I'd say 4 out of our first 5 picks now must be OL. We need a minimum of 2 rookies being able to start right away *and* be an upgrade.

Seahawks OL spending

2020- 26.6M (26th)
2021- 26.9M (22nd)
2022- 23.5M (28th)
2023- 20.5M (30th)
2024- 21.1M (32nd)

18 individual offensive linemen are set to have higher cap hits in 2025 than the entire Seahawks starting unit.
*Read that again*

This OL spending has a direct correlation to our OL performance/ranking.
I am not saying we should have absolutely spent FA money on OL if the fit wasn't there or a deal couldn't be swung.
But what I am saying is at this point we need to use 3 of our top 5 picks on OL. There are IOL questions, there are ? At OT & contracts coming up, there is no strong hold at center. The aforementioned coupled with the fact we have ranked near league worst dictates multiple picks go to OL. Part of this reasoning is.
1) This has been let go for too long, action must be taken. Too much riding on it at this point.
2) There is no other position in such disrepair & urgent need to use draft picks for anything over OL.
3) If we use 3 top picks, maybe one or two will be notable upgrades and move the needle up for this offensive line.
4) This is the draft to do it, a strong OL class with a few versatile players with potential talent to stick in this league, but most will be gone before day 3 starts.
5) Spend the draft resource now and the offense will be that much further ahead towards a turn a round. Also will have insurance towards OT contracts coming up and ultimately save a bunch of cap $ we can spend towards vital contract extentions in 26' throughout the roster.
6) Drafting three OL will add talent & competition resulting in ++ help for Darnold, our WR group, the run-game and less minutes for our defense.
7) I basically wrote this because I know JS won't do it and I like to be right.

Yeah I agree, you really need 4 to cover everything and then maybe two out of four could get some playing time in 25'.
Lucas' injuries & Cross' contract coming up are serious considerations. The IOL really needs help.
They need to stop pigeon holing guys. I don't care about zbs traits or 2nd level blocks. I care about 3rd & short, 4th & goal and a potent, sustained run game.
Great players adapt.

 

[Scout]

JS definitely has put himself in a pickle because while he still needs to find a way to upgrade at least one interior OL spot the contract situations at both tackle spots is coming to a head. Will JS pay them or let them walk? And if so is he prepared to draft another OT high?

 

[AnimeAmore]

Yeah I agree, you really need 4 to cover everything and then maybe two out of four could get some playing time in 25'.
Lucas' injuries & Cross' contract coming up are serious considerations. The IOL really needs help.
They need to stop pigeon holing guys. I don't care about zbs traits or 2nd level blocks. I care about 3rd & short, 4th & goal and a potent, sustained run game.
Great players adapt.

I forget what year it was, but it was during the Cable era when I officially stopped caring about 2nd level blocks. It was one of the 2 or 3 years when our team was using SPARQ (remember that???) to judge players, and I kept hearing "second level blocks" despite our linemen struggling with their initial assignment. I don't care about a secondary ability if they're lacking the primary ability.

 

[LeveeBreak]

JS definitely has put himself in a pickle because while he still needs to find a way to upgrade at least one interior OL spot the contract situations at both tackle spots is coming to a head. Will JS pay them or let them walk? And if so is he prepared to draft another OT high?

IF, and that is a BIG IF, JS can hit on a starting T in the draft, I suspect he keeps the best between Lucas and Cross, if not both.
It's not out of consideration they are able to keep both. Cross has stayed healthy and will command mid-top range, but not top LT $$ unless he balls out this coming year. Lucas has a stronger discount potential due to injuries. We have decent cap to work with next year and should have room to extend a few more key players.

IMO, at least 2 pics in the first 5 on OL, with at least 1 being a starting capable, run oriented IOL. There is a window between now and pre-season to pick up later cuts...but % is low.

JS can still field a decent OL, but has to hit in the draft to do so -or- a couple of curent young players improve to a competent level. If he can get top 50% production that effectively supports the run, he's probably achieved reasonable expectations for next year. If not, the call for his head may push Jody to make a change. I like JS, but I'd align to strongly considerng a change.
As hawk fans, be bitter and have low expectations if that release is needed...I get it. But the reasonable hope should be he fixes the f'n OL and these other moves get us to post season.

 

[JayhawkMike]

I don't mind if they trade everyone and start over so long as JS is gone. If someone built you a crappy house why hire them to build your another crappy house. Hire another builder. Our o-line is NOT up to code.

 

[WestCoastChippewa]

I'm so over the OL babble! If the plan of coaching up the young core works, great! If not, great. We either make a run in the playoffs, or, we get a new GM. Win, win! LFG!!!

 

[NoGain]

It's funny that the majority thought the offense was our strength going into last season, with Geno at QB, a strong backfield, a dynamic WR corp with Metcalf, Lockett, and JSN, decent enough TE squad, and some hope for the OLine to improve a bit.

Now our D seems to be our clear strength over the O, at least at this point in the off-season.

 

[glenwo2]

I'm so over the OL babble! If the plan of coaching up the young core works, great! If not, great. We either make a run in the playoffs, or, we get a new GM. Win, win! LFG!!!

Question for you :

#18 Seahawks are on the clock....Gray Zabel is available. You get him?

 

[Wsumatt1982]

Question for you :

#18 Seahawks are on the clock....Gray Zabel is available. You get him?

Donovan Jackson is my number 3 behind Membou and Campbell

 

[LeveeBreak]

It's funny that the majority thought the offense was our strength going into last season, with Geno at QB, a strong backfield, a dynamic WR corp with Metcalf, Lockett, and JSN, decent enough TE squad, and some hope for the OLine to improve a bit.

Now our D seems to be our clear strength over the O, at least at this point in the off-season.

Agree...but OL questions were #1 concern with LB's a close #2. Great to witness the immediate impact swapping our ILB's mid-season did. A similar swap at G would probably field a decent OL.

Interested to see how our TE's perform in the new O, with JSN, Kupp, and whomever wins #3. May not have many 3-wide sets, which is good b/c we need to get the run going and will have the weapons to take advantage when they fill the box.

 

[WestCoastChippewa]

Question for you :

#18 Seahawks are on the clock....Gray Zabel is available. You get him?

At 301lbs he seems a little light as starting NFL OL.

 

[jammerhawk]

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing again and again and hoping for different results.

https://www.fieldgulls.com/2025/3/2...draft-develop-fix-offensive-line-nfl-analysis

Frankly the results have been consistently disappointing since arrival. JS may know us, hear us, and feel us but for him his time is running out.

The OLine has been weak since he came, there will likely be little improvement b/c of his bias regarding the value of the interior positions. JMO but depending upon rookies to lmmediately improve the performance of an already weak unit is a recipe for failure.

Expect more of the same. Reality is his biases have limited the development and improvement of the interior of the OLine, nothing will change. This will/may prove to be his undoing.

All the rationalizations ring hollow, he’s now on very thin ice. I genuinely have great respect for JS but it is pretty clear he is not good at assessing OLine talent and it often takes a few seasons for young players to understand how to best play their positions.

I know this post may appear to be negative but sometimes reality sucks.

 

[James in PA]

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing again and again and hoping for different results.

https://www.fieldgulls.com/2025/3/2...draft-develop-fix-offensive-line-nfl-analysis

Frankly the results have been consistently disappointing since arrival. JS may know us, hear us, and feel us but for him his time is running out.

The OLine has been weak since he came, there will likely be little improvement b/c of his bias regarding the value of the interior positions. JMO but depending upon rookies to lmmediately improve the performance of an already weak unit is a recipe for failure.

Expect more of the same. Reality is his biases have limited the development and improvement of the interior of the OLine, nothing will change. This will/may prove to be his undoing.

All the rationalizations ring hollow, he’s now on very thin ice. I genuinely have great respect for JS but it is pretty clear he is not good at assessing OLine talent and it often takes a few seasons for young players to understand how to best play their positions.

I know this post may appear to be negative but sometimes reality sucks.

Yep, it's put up or shut up time. And I don't sense the urgency from him. "We like the guys we gave and we're not going to overpay for mediocre talent." Hey John, the last time I checked, mediocre is better than bad. This is 10 years of subpar O line play.

"But Pete!!"

Nope, don't give me that crap. In John's first year of having final say, the line was the worst it's ever been.

 

[Wolfiegrrl]

I really think last year's failed experiment with Grubb and his gang has a lot to do with why our OL sucked big nasty ballz. They couldn't develop an NFL caliber line and it showed. Haynes came from a zone scheme. I think Kubiak is going to use him the right way. These young guys still hold a lot of promise. If JS gets more young zone guys, we'll be just fine.

Breathe.

 

[jammerhawk]

If you were a legit and talented interior Lineman looking for a new gig would you want to sign on with a team with one of the worst OLine s, or with a team where the GM has gone public saying interior OLinemen are over drafted and overpaid? For most I'd suspect it might cause serious pause for thought.

 

[glenwo2]

At 301lbs he seems a little light as starting NFL OL.

What is your ideal weight for an OL man then?

I would imagine that in a Kubiak offense, the OL man would have to be able to MOVE and not be a slow-plodding mess with 4 tires in his gut.

I could be wrong, though.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

NFL Average is 315 pounds for O Lineman. How in the world is 301 too light?

 

[Scout]

Even if Haynes ascends as a quality starter you are still treading water on the inside along the OL. Too many question marks and that assumes the best starting five stay healthy for a 17 game season.

Look at what happened last season.

 

[Seahawker]

What is your ideal weight for an OL man then?

I would imagine that in a Kubiak offense, the OL man would have to be able to MOVE and not be a slow-plodding mess with 4 tires in his gut.

I could be wrong, though.

He has to be able to patty-cake & river dance. Someone will get Booker and it ain't likely us.

I see 6- 8 OT's (half could move inside), 4 OG's and a couple of centers worth drafting for a total of about 13. My guess is 6-8 go in the 1st round and another 6 go in the 2nd round. Won't be much left in the 3rd, especially at 82, 92, honestly you'll be lucky to get one at 50.

I would package my two 2nd rounders to move up into the 1st if I could. For example, the Vikings only have four picks, 1st (24), 3rd, 5th, 6th.
Our two 2nds are valued 50 (400) & 52 (380)= 780, Vikings 1st #24 = 740 pts.
I'd trade for #24 and use 18 & 24 to try to get a couple players. Also would try to package that crap 4th with a lower pick or two to move up closer to the top of the 4th.
I know it's fun for a lot of you guys & John to have 10 picks like presents to open on Christmas morning but it's not likely to jack this roster up. Besides these new coaches don't need a bunch of rookies in camp, they've got enough projects as it is.
Trade up. Don't dilute, concentrate.
A couple 1st's, two 3rds, try to move up in the 4th, a lower pick or two.
If we stay with the 10 picks we have now and don't hit on a good OL at 18, we likely won't get one.