Seahawks at Niners 11/11...

[RolandDeschain]

Well that's just peachy. Sigh.

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Watch the game come down to a 50-yard field goal attempt by SF, lol. (And no, the 'lol' is not laughing at your injured kicker, it's laughing at the idea of that scenario happening for a backup kicker.)

 

[Fade]

Consider this:

Seattle's played 3 teams in the top 5 in terms of pass rush: Wilson completed 71% of his passes for 1001 yards, 7 TDs, 0 Ints, with a QBR of 117. He was sacked 7 times.

They've played 4 teams in the top 15 of hurries and pass defense: Wilson completed 66% of his passes for 1215 yards, 10 TDs, 1 Ints, with a QBR of 110. He was sacked 6 times.

You see the 9ers are the greatest pass rushing team of all-time. They took down Case Kennum, Andy Dalton, and Jared Goff. So what do you think they are going to do to Wilson? And I know they actually haven't even faced a top half of the league QB yet, but 49ers fans told me since Wilson doesn't have a good O-Line he doesn't stand a chance.

So those pesky, factual numbers about Wilson tearing up top flight pass rushing units in spite of his trash line, and even though he has done it over his entire career, it means nothing.

As he hasn't face the GOAT Niners yet!! LOL.

 

[chris98251]

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Interesting chart for sure. Something has got to give. If our D is as good as we are boasting, going agaisnt a better offense like the Seahawks won't matter and we can shut them down like the others. We can only play who is on our schedule. We will see if a better O can handle our pass rush. How is your Oline? If not good then I doubt your offense will be too effective.

If not then you will be able to score effectively and the game will be super close with no advantage to one side or the other except the home field. If our pass rush does not get to Wilson then it could be a long night defensively and we can be exposed like the Pats.

Thanks for posting. Adds even more intrigue to this game.

Edit: Also, the Chargers completely shut down the Packers who are ranked 4th on your chart. So if they could do that I'd expect us to be able to shut them down as well. This would render this chart moot. We will see Monday.

Whut??????

Seattle has never had a good O-Line with Wilson under center. He has been the best QB ever when throwing under pressure. Both in his full body of work, and this season.

That is his game, it's kind of what he does.

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Take note of the O-Line Ranking.

To beat Wilson you have to get him on the ground, pressuring him is not good enough, he kills defenses otherwise.

But where is the Franchise, not seeing Jimmy there?

 

[Seahawkfan80]

Kittle was a DNP today, he is day to day

https://www.ninersnation.com/2019/11/7/ ... kle-issues

Yeah, if he's not a go on Monday that's a tall order. Not only is he their leading receiver, so much of their running game is wrapped up in him.

These things happen in the great games. I really do hope he recovers. If not for this game, then for the one in our house. I want the best for the NFC Wiest.

On a more personal note, some day I will go back to the realm known as Levi Stadium and would like to meet you. Went 2 years ago and it was not too bad. Stayed in Sunnyvale and hacked the WOPR and um uh nevermind...but still enjoyed my trip with riverdog. Took the rail from Lockheed station in and out. And walked a bit. I did not know that hummingbirds chirped.

Good luck to your team Monday Night and hope for no injuries for both teams.

I am hoping for a win for my team of course.

 

[Washington49er]

Kittle was a DNP today, he is day to day

https://www.ninersnation.com/2019/11/7/ ... kle-issues

Yeah, if he's not a go on Monday that's a tall order. Not only is he their leading receiver, so much of their running game is wrapped up in him.

These things happen in the great games. I really do hope he recovers. If not for this game, then for the one in our house. I want the best for the NFC Wiest.

On a more personal note, some day I will go back to the realm known as Levi Stadium and would like to meet you. Went 2 years ago and it was not too bad. Stayed in Sunnyvale and hacked the WOPR and um uh nevermind...but still enjoyed my trip with riverdog. Took the rail from Lockheed station in and out. And walked a bit. I did not know that hummingbirds chirped.

Good luck to your team Monday Night and hope for no injuries for both teams.

I am hoping for a win for my team of course.

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[Marvin49]

Kittle was a DNP today, he is day to day

https://www.ninersnation.com/2019/11/7/ ... kle-issues

Yeah, if he's not a go on Monday that's a tall order. Not only is he their leading receiver, so much of their running game is wrapped up in him.

These things happen in the great games. I really do hope he recovers. If not for this game, then for the one in our house. I want the best for the NFC Wiest.

On a more personal note, some day I will go back to the realm known as Levi Stadium and would like to meet you. Went 2 years ago and it was not too bad. Stayed in Sunnyvale and hacked the WOPR and um uh nevermind...but still enjoyed my trip with riverdog. Took the rail from Lockheed station in and out. And walked a bit. I did not know that hummingbirds chirped.

Good luck to your team Monday Night and hope for no injuries for both teams.

I am hoping for a win for my team of course.

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Agreed.

 

[Marvin49]

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Interesting chart for sure. Something has got to give. If our D is as good as we are boasting, going agaisnt a better offense like the Seahawks won't matter and we can shut them down like the others. We can only play who is on our schedule. We will see if a better O can handle our pass rush. How is your Oline? If not good then I doubt your offense will be too effective.

If not then you will be able to score effectively and the game will be super close with no advantage to one side or the other except the home field. If our pass rush does not get to Wilson then it could be a long night defensively and we can be exposed like the Pats.

Thanks for posting. Adds even more intrigue to this game.

Edit: Also, the Chargers completely shut down the Packers who are ranked 4th on your chart. So if they could do that I'd expect us to be able to shut them down as well. This would render this chart moot. We will see Monday.

Whut??????

Seattle has never had a good O-Line with Wilson under center. He has been the best QB ever when throwing under pressure. Both in his full body of work, and this season.

That is his game, it's kind of what he does.

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Take note of the O-Line Ranking.

To beat Wilson you have to get him on the ground, pressuring him is not good enough, he kills defenses otherwise.

But where is the Franchise, not seeing Jimmy there?

Also not seeing any QBs with a run game that averages 171 yards per game or the leagues #1 defense.

Despite that, 70.8 Comp%, 13TDs, 7INTs, a 100.6 QB Rating, 69.1 QBR...and an 8-0 record.

 

[Maulbert]

Interesting chart for sure. Something has got to give. If our D is as good as we are boasting, going agaisnt a better offense like the Seahawks won't matter and we can shut them down like the others. We can only play who is on our schedule. We will see if a better O can handle our pass rush. How is your Oline? If not good then I doubt your offense will be too effective.

If not then you will be able to score effectively and the game will be super close with no advantage to one side or the other except the home field. If our pass rush does not get to Wilson then it could be a long night defensively and we can be exposed like the Pats.

Thanks for posting. Adds even more intrigue to this game.

Edit: Also, the Chargers completely shut down the Packers who are ranked 4th on your chart. So if they could do that I'd expect us to be able to shut them down as well. This would render this chart moot. We will see Monday.

Whut??????

Seattle has never had a good O-Line with Wilson under center. He has been the best QB ever when throwing under pressure. Both in his full body of work, and this season.

That is his game, it's kind of what he does.

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Take note of the O-Line Ranking.

To beat Wilson you have to get him on the ground, pressuring him is not good enough, he kills defenses otherwise.

But where is the Franchise, not seeing Jimmy there?

Also not seeing any QBs with a run game that averages 171 yards per game or the leagues #1 defense.

Despite that, 70.8 Comp%, 13TDs, 7INTs, a 100.6 QB Rating, 69.1 QBR...and an 8-0 record.

You list 7 picks like that's a good thing.

 

[5_Golden_Rings]

49ers fans are more of a national fanbase. There are probably more 49er fans in Seattle than Santa Clara.

I'm sure your Canadian girlfriend is indeed as lovely as she appears in the pictures of the catalog you break out to show all the doubters.

Nice twisting of what I said. What was I comparing the baseline to? Santa Clara. The wine and cheese elite don’t really care about sports. The tickets are already bought and paid for, but by who? Rich turds who thought the licenses were a wise financial investment, or a good social investment status, not fans. That is why they pay the money and either don’t show up or hang out in the comfortable restaurants areas. Where this Candlstick and the home of the cholos, you wouldn’t see this.

So what you're saying is that the people in the city where the 49ers actually play are so terrible that they buy up all the tickets so no one else can, and then don't go to the games, forcing their own team to play in front of a half-empty stadium? Jeez, talk about openly sabotaging your own "investment."

No. They usually either go to the games or sell the tickets to opposing fan bases. When they do attend, if it’s hot and they’re on the visitor’s side (where the sun hits), they’ll vanish with their friends who don’t also don’t care about the 49ers into the shaded restaurant areas.

Like I said, this wasn’t a problem in San Francisco, even in the Erickson/Nolan/Tomsula years, where the annoying cholos and other non-one percenters could afford tickets and transportation.

 

[Sports Hernia]

Whut??????

Seattle has never had a good O-Line with Wilson under center. He has been the best QB ever when throwing under pressure. Both in his full body of work, and this season.

That is his game, it's kind of what he does.

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[tweet]https://twitter.com/PFF_Jeff/status/1192464483161034757[/tweet]

Take note of the O-Line Ranking.

To beat Wilson you have to get him on the ground, pressuring him is not good enough, he kills defenses otherwise.

But where is the Franchise, not seeing Jimmy there?

Also not seeing any QBs with a run game that averages 171 yards per game or the leagues #1 defense.

Despite that, 70.8 Comp%, 13TDs, 7INTs, a 100.6 QB Rating, 69.1 QBR...and an 8-0 record.

You list 7 picks like that's a good thing.

It is, if it’s the “Golden boy”. He can do nothing wrong in many Niners trolls eyes.
He has “no fatal flaws” according to some. He’s 8-0, some snowflake Niner trolls bellow.... reality: thanks to the defense.

 

[Marvin49]

Whut??????

Seattle has never had a good O-Line with Wilson under center. He has been the best QB ever when throwing under pressure. Both in his full body of work, and this season.

That is his game, it's kind of what he does.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/LordReebs/status/1191354954998525952[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Pat_Thorman/status/1183688509971935232[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/PFF_Jeff/status/1192464483161034757[/tweet]

Take note of the O-Line Ranking.

To beat Wilson you have to get him on the ground, pressuring him is not good enough, he kills defenses otherwise.

But where is the Franchise, not seeing Jimmy there?

Also not seeing any QBs with a run game that averages 171 yards per game or the leagues #1 defense.

Despite that, 70.8 Comp%, 13TDs, 7INTs, a 100.6 QB Rating, 69.1 QBR...and an 8-0 record.

You list 7 picks like that's a good thing.

No, I listed it as a part of his stat line. I ain't hiding from it.

If I DIDN'T list it, someone here would have said "yeah, but 7 INTs".

Jimmy is still learning, still making mistakes, and as I said before the season started, he'll be a better QB at the end of the season than he was at the beginning. We are already seeing signs of that.

The point in my post though was that he hadn't needed to put up big numbers to win.

He's been asked twice this year to come through in the clutch...Pittsburg and Arizona. He delivered both times. Now some intrepid poster will point out that he threw 2 INTs vs Pitt, but both were deflections off the receivers hands, in the first quarter, and he rallied late to win the game. Most Niner fans would tell you it was his best game as a 49er...until Arizona.

 

[Marvin49]

But where is the Franchise, not seeing Jimmy there?

Also not seeing any QBs with a run game that averages 171 yards per game or the leagues #1 defense.

Despite that, 70.8 Comp%, 13TDs, 7INTs, a 100.6 QB Rating, 69.1 QBR...and an 8-0 record.

You list 7 picks like that's a good thing.

It is, if it’s the “Golden boy”. He can do nothing wrong in many Niners trolls eyes.
He has “no fatal flaws” according to some. He’s 8-0, some snowflake Niner trolls bellow.... reality: thanks to the defense.

Defense has been great. So has running game.

...I'm not sure why some think of that as a knock on him. Jimmy has been nails when it matters. He's been fantastic on 3rd and 4th down. He's been very good under pressure. In fact, odd stat, 5 of his 7 INTs have been in the 1st quarter. As the game wears on, his QB Rating only rises. When they are down, its 115. Don't believe me?

http://www.nfl.com/player/jimmygaroppol ... ionalstats

Look at his splits broken down by half this season.

First Half:
70.8 comp%, 982 yards, 8TDs, 6INTs, 92.2 Rating

Second Half:
70.8 comp%, 824 yards, 5TDs, 1INT, 113.7 Rating

So Hernia, you can keep propping up your lame "no fatal flaws" comment that you've been knowingly taking out of context for some time now, but someday you might have to come to the realization that Jimmy isn't a bad QB. Every Niner fan poster in here would tell you he is not a top 5 QB in the NFL and that Wilson is the MVP right now. He's had to be to have their current record. Seahawks are currently +18 in point differential. What would the Seahawks record be if Wilson DIDN'T have 22TDs and 1INT (that stat line is ridiculous...lol).

The "Golden Boy" as you put it is the best QB in SF in some time. Really can't be argued otherwise. Is he Wilson? Mahomes? Rodgers? Brees?

No. At least not yet. In their first years as starters, neither were any of those guys...well except Mahomes. He's ludicrous. I'm not saying Garoppolo will be those guys. What I am saying is he's a very good QB and the best I've seen in SF in quite some time. Not sure why thats controversial.

So go ahead now and do what you always do and misrepresent what posters are saying. I'd expect no less.

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[SoulfishHawk]

No idea if he'll end up being a top notch starter. However, if he ever brings the team back and wins a huge game, I'll be a little more impressed. Russ has 31 4th quarter or OT comebacks since 2012. THAT is a clutch QB, and it is often behind a Swiss Cheese O-Line.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

No idea if he'll end up being a top notch starter. However, if he ever brings the team back and wins a huge game, I'll be a little more impressed. Russ has 31 4th quarter or OT comebacks since 2012. THAT is a clutch QB, and it is often behind a Swiss Cheese O-Line.

Unfortunately coming from the Patriots and now a really good offensive mind like Shanahan's, I do think Garoppolo will continue to get better and better.

Like Russell and other great QB's, it's as much about the coaching, systems and organizations they're in, as much as it is about their own talents........and right now Jimmy G's in a great environment to flourish.

I wish I thought differently.

 

[Marvin49]

No idea if he'll end up being a top notch starter. However, if he ever brings the team back and wins a huge game, I'll be a little more impressed. Russ has 31 4th quarter or OT comebacks since 2012. THAT is a clutch QB, and it is often behind a Swiss Cheese O-Line.

...and to put that in perspective, Russ has almost twice as many comebacks as Garoppolo has NFL starts.

I don't question Wilson. He's done it. He's proved it.

Early returns are positive for Garoppolo, but there is a lot more story to write.

 

[Marvin49]

No idea if he'll end up being a top notch starter. However, if he ever brings the team back and wins a huge game, I'll be a little more impressed. Russ has 31 4th quarter or OT comebacks since 2012. THAT is a clutch QB, and it is often behind a Swiss Cheese O-Line.

Unfortunately coming from the Patriots and now a really good offensive mind like Shanahan's, I do think Garoppolo will continue to get better and better.

Like Russell and other great QB's, it's as much about the coaching, systems and organizations they're in, as much as it is about their own talents........and right now Jimmy G's in a great environment to flourish.

I wish I thought differently.

Agreed.

He still has to go out and do it, but he's been put in a position to succeed. Coaching won't be the reason he fails.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

It's a good point. If Bill B thought highly of Pretty Boy, that says a lot. I'm sure he'll be a solid NFL QB, I just need to see him win some games that matter and more importantly carry his team to victory by way of comeback.

 

[Marvin49]

It's a good point. If Bill B thought highly of Pretty Boy, that says a lot. I'm sure he'll be a solid NFL QB, I just need to see him win some games that matter and more importantly carry his team to victory by way of comeback.

Well, he's had a few comebacks...in 2016 and vs Steelers this year. In Arizona it was about converting 3rd downs to kill the clock because the D was clearly gassed.

There will come a time when he needs to play well and all the marbles will be on the line. We won't know for sure till that happens. I have no fears about when he's put in that position, but you are correct that he;s yet to prove it. Niners just haven't been in that many games that mattered recently.

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

Kittle was DNP again today.

His replacement, Dwelley, took over nicely for Juice and also in 4Q against Cards for Kittle. But still as someone said, Kittle remains not just one of their most important, but possibly the most important.

Practice window opened for Celek (who has to be activated or released 11/24) but have heard no chatter on him going vs. SEA.

BONUS ETA: Sherm tells Staley, 49ers fans that they should have been more upset by the score. Which was 19-3:

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/1 ... ld-pissed/

Sherm, not to say you're wrong, but thatt enemy fanbase is now...your own.

 

[SF49r]

Has Seattle ever lost a primetime game under Carroll/Wilson? Don't ever recall seeing them lose excluding the playoffs and that game they tied with Arizona.