Salks take on Carroll and Russ

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The defense blew another double digit lead in the 4th quarter. They always get a pass though. It's always someone else's fault, especially the QB.

 

[John63]

The defense blew another double digit lead in the 4th quarter. They always get a pass though. It's always someone else's fault, especially the QB.

This^^ and an NFL FG kicker missing a 39 yarder.

 

[toffee]

Russ's attitude and position on that play is a carryover from his now obviously flawed belief that if the offense ran through him, the Seahawks would be better for it. His words and play have shown it for a full two seasons now, and he's been obstinant and blindly unapologetic about it. It makes it pretty obvious again how completely off reservation and at odds he is with Pete. And honestly, it's embarrassing. He's so hung up on showing that HE'S great and that HE'S the difference that he's willing to give up a chip shot 2 score lead with 7 minutes and instead go for a play that is an unnecessary risk. But hey, if it works, it's another TD.

He didn't even have the common sense to throw the ball away.

And for him to be so dismissive of the idea that it was maybe the wrong play to make stinks even more given how poorly his offense performed AGAIN late in the game when the defense figured him out and AGAIN we couldn't possess the ball enough to keep the Bears from even having a chance to cone back. If you stink that bad yourself, you take the easy points and just go home with a W.

It's that BS attitude of him being above the team that should make it obvious his time here is done, if not by the FO taking action than for sure by his own desire, given his willingness to forego the benefit of the team for his own image. Russ is out and has been now for a bit.

Remember this post-game presser? The final throws of the Let Russ Cookers movement. The Let russ cook thing had my antenna up before the season and when I heard this reference to his greatness, I new it was over. The only players who speak about their own greatness are receivers and corners. 2 position groups that traditionally have massive outwardly expressive ego's. When is the last time you heard any QB say they know they're great? Even if they are and everyone knows it

https://youtu.be/YvD2freLx6Y

Hahahaha I forgot about that.

God I can’t wait til we have someone cool.

The more i see how delusional he seems, the more I think about how long the 'management' of this dudes ego has been going on. I remember reading rumblings back in 2014 and 2015 about how the coaches had Russ in a bubble and tried to make sure that his teammates weren't too harsh in their criticism of him, essentially because he was sensitive to it. The only one that seemed to have a direct conduit was ADB.

He's been protected, overly. He caught criticism for being babied and not being held accountable, particularly earlier on in his career. And for the first half + of his career, his ability was categorized as that of a game manager. So for the last few years now he's been trying to flex into this image that overcomes those early casts, and I think he's become lost in it - especially after his hype machine began pushing the 'Russ is everything' campaign.

Russ was special when he played within a system that allowed him to be great and made it ok when he wasn't.

Russ was great when he was confident but MODEST.

Russ was great when he put the team first and allowed his reputation to sail on the same winds that carried the team to success.

This iteration of Wilson that's so caught up in his own image is a complete failure and he's brought the team down around him. It smacks of immaturity and is lacking of any wisdom or sense of accountability.

But in many ways I think it's what you get when you're management style is all about reinforcing positive outcomes and setting aside hard, critical conversations.

For as much as I appreciate PC's coaching ability and still think he can do good things here, he has a huge blind spot for the need to address shortcomings directly.

My speculations:

Russ likes to talk about his family's education background, father went to an ivy school etc., which made it harder to click with guys in the locker room. Compounded with his own N Carolina State, making him easy to make fun of. There were rumors out there that Russ doesn't take locker room knock down easily. Pete went in to protect his franchise QB as he should, but he might became overprotective at some point. One should have no doubt that Pete really likes Russ.

This would be like me keep bragging about my kid went to Ivy league school and went on to become a Rhode scholar, then some of you guys came back at me asking just what school that I went to. If I got all defensive ... I would become an easy tease.

The two guys that picked on Russ more so than other? Angry and Sherm, both Stanford guys.

 

[pittpnthrs]

i just think Russ isn't buying into Carroll as much as he should. Maybe the issue could be fixed if Carroll brought in a QB coach that coached Wilson Hard...

LTH

You mean Austin Davis isnt teaching Russ everything he needs to know? Aaron Curry is an assistant LB coach. I'm sure he's giving Wagner a bunch of good pointers. How are these hires allowed to happen?

 

[Elemas]

Of course, hindsight is great. I would NOT have checked down to Dallas. It’s possible but, the average “check down” play isn’t getting you the first down there. Closer for a FG?

Yes. I don’t care for PCs defeatist mentality. He doesn’t play to win. He plays to keep it close. Winning 3-0 is better that 30-20 (paraphrase in reference to a dumb PC remark). Mmmkkk. Sure. 10 point lead with 3 minutes left? “ Fire up the Dime or soft zone KNJ”! Let’s watch them chip off 11 straight 8 yard passes to the sideline. I’m sure the players get sick of it. Way to instill confidence.

The sack sucked. We all saw the results so, the answer appears that he should’ve thrown to Dallas. But, if we were to get 6 on that play, most of you would’ve been calling it a great decision.

Cmon now…you guys know this is the same coach that won’t go for it on 4th and 1 when past the 50.

Russ definitely has his issues with sacks. But how about we not trade an all-pro center for a TE or pick a wideout over linemen that most of the league is drooling over? They’re (linemen) not that good. And THAT is the MAIN issue with these sacks.

 

[sprhawk73]

So most veteran QB's have command of their offense. They can go no huddle, hurry up at will, not just when it is necessary to win the game.

RW should roll out to the weak side on every pass play

 

[LTH]

i just think Russ isn't buying into Carroll as much as he should. Maybe the issue could be fixed if Carroll brought in a QB coach that coached Wilson Hard...

LTH

You mean Austin Davis isnt teaching Russ everything he needs to know? Aaron Curry is an assistant LB coach. I'm sure he's giving Wagner a bunch of good pointers. How are these hires allowed to happen?

I couldn't say anything about this because I have NO IDEA! LOL

 

[TheLegendOfBoom]

i just think Russ isn't buying into Carroll as much as he should. Maybe the issue could be fixed if Carroll brought in a QB coach that coached Wilson Hard...

LTH

You mean Austin Davis isnt teaching Russ everything he needs to know? Aaron Curry is an assistant LB coach. I'm sure he's giving Wagner a bunch of good pointers. How are these hires allowed to happen?

I couldn't say anything about this because I have NO IDEA! LOL

I think I saw Will Tukuafu as some kind of coach/assistant as well.

 

[LTH]

i just think Russ isn't buying into Carroll as much as he should. Maybe the issue could be fixed if Carroll brought in a QB coach that coached Wilson Hard...

LTH

You mean Austin Davis isnt teaching Russ everything he needs to know? Aaron Curry is an assistant LB coach. I'm sure he's giving Wagner a bunch of good pointers. How are these hires allowed to happen?

Just because a former player was not a great NFL player does not mean he won't be a great coach.


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