Salks take on Carroll and Russ

[Sgt. Largent]

Im with wilson, he tried to get a td. A professional kicker should make a 30+ fg.

I think the point is the coach is being honest about the question, and the QB refuses to be self critical...which may be the larger issue here with what Salk and others have been saying about Russ for a long time.

The reason these bad plays keep happening is we have a QB who refuses to acknowledge that his negative plays are bad, and thus why he hasn't shown any growth or progressed as a QB.

And in fact has regressed.

Russ has been pretty much the best QB this decade. All these negative plays he has, doesn't even come close to all the positive plays he had performed. You got to take good w/ the some bad plays, as he is the qB who is always trying to make something out of nothing.

There was like 10minutes left in the game...You go for a TD in that scenario. If he gets sack, Meyers should have made that FG.

This sentiment would be accurate if this was 2019.

You're not being honest with how mediocre to poor Russ has been playing for going on a year now.

His escape artist big plays and 4th quarter comebacks have been all but non existent for a very long time, especially compared to the brutal negative plays he keeps taking pressing and trying to make something happen.

 

[rcaido]

I think has a lot to do w the refs. Just seems like they been against the seahawks more this year. Wilson magic comeback gets killed by penalties.

As for wilson, i think getting use to throwing the football differently is making him hesitant and been offf. His accuracy was at his best before the injury.

I thought he played great last season and started off awesome before the injury.

One out 10 seasons and now he no longer has trade value. No longer a top10 qb. Arrogant selfish prick.

Lot of you guys just dont appreciate one of the best athlete we have. I feel very fortunate that he has played for us this past decade. I hope Russ stays.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

I think has a lot to do w the refs. Just seems like they been against the seahawks more this year. Wilson magic comeback gets killed by penalties.

As for wilson, i think getting use to throwing the football differently is making him hesitant and been offf. His accuracy was at his best before the injury.

I thought he played great last season and started off awesome before the injury.

One out 10 seasons and now he no longer has trade value. No longer a top10 qb. Arrogant selfish prick.

Lot of you guys just dont appreciate one of the best athlete we have. I feel very fortunate that he has played for us this past decade. I hope Russ stays.

These two things are not intertwined.

I can be thankful and appreciative of Russell being the greatest QB in our franchise's history, and be objective enough to be critical of him when he's not playing well. Or being objective enough to see that the best of Russell's ability might just be behind him.

Same objectiveness I show Pete.

Some of you guys lack the ability to separate these two things.

 

[justafan]

I dont see a lot of objectivity on this site. Too many people are prisoners of the moment. A healthy Wilson and Bevel or Schotty could have this a top 10 O. We have neither.

 

[LTH]

Translation:

Pete: "We needed to be smarter right there and not take the sack for negative yards."

Russ: "I was just trying to score a TD."

Russ got defensive about his poor decisions after the Titans game too - "What I agree with is..."

There is a disconnect between coach and player.

Basically Russ does what he does. He has become uncoachable at this point.

Russ has become un coachable? Yep that is certainly the way it looks...Now the question is How Does Pete react to that?

LTH

 

[pittpnthrs]

Russ has become un coachable? Yep that is certainly the way it looks...Now the question is How Does Pete react to that?

LTH

Hopefully he does the right thing and steps down.

 

[Ambrose83]

Im with wilson, he tried to get a td. A professional kicker should make a 30+ fg.

Piss-poor situational awareness from Wilson. He had DJ Dallas on a checkdown for a 5 yard gain and a 1st down if Dallas breaks one tackle. Then EZ field goal for Myers makes it a 2-score game. Instead, Russell gives away net 20 yards (-15 yard sack, -5 not taking EZ checkdown) playing hero ball when it was ABSOLUTELY UNNECESSARY.
It does make Russ look selfish and ego-driven.

Any kick in a cold, snowy, windy situation is a crapshoot. Pete's absolutely right and Wilson is dead wrong. With just an incompletion, Myers makes the FG from 15 yards closer. Wilson's Hero-Ball cost the Seahawks the game.

Totally wasn't the defense blowing a double digit lead in the 4th.

 

[John63]

Im with wilson, he tried to get a td. A professional kicker should make a 30+ fg.

^^^

 

[Throwdown]

Im with wilson, he tried to get a td. A professional kicker should make a 30+ fg.

Piss-poor situational awareness from Wilson. He had DJ Dallas on a checkdown for a 5 yard gain and a 1st down if Dallas breaks one tackle. Then EZ field goal for Myers makes it a 2-score game. Instead, Russell gives away net 20 yards (-15 yard sack, -5 not taking EZ checkdown) playing hero ball when it was ABSOLUTELY UNNECESSARY.
It does make Russ look selfish and ego-driven.

Any kick in a cold, snowy, windy situation is a crapshoot. Pete's absolutely right and Wilson is dead wrong. With just an incompletion, Myers makes the FG from 15 yards closer. Wilson's Hero-Ball cost the Seahawks the game.

Totally wasn't the defense blowing a double digit lead in the 4th.

If our trash ass QB could’ve sustained a drive instead of a mere what 20+ yards passing in the 2nd half I’m sure the defense isn’t put in that position.

 

[keasley45]

Russ's attitude and position on that play is a carryover from his now obviously flawed belief that if the offense ran through him, the Seahawks would be better for it. His words and play have shown it for a full two seasons now, and he's been obstinant and blindly unapologetic about it. It makes it pretty obvious again how completely off reservation and at odds he is with Pete. And honestly, it's embarrassing. He's so hung up on showing that HE'S great and that HE'S the difference that he's willing to give up a chip shot 2 score lead with 7 minutes and instead go for a play that is an unnecessary risk. But hey, if it works, it's another TD.

He didn't even have the common sense to throw the ball away.

And for him to be so dismissive of the idea that it was maybe the wrong play to make stinks even more given how poorly his offense performed AGAIN late in the game when the defense figured him out and AGAIN we couldn't possess the ball enough to keep the Bears from even having a chance to cone back. If you stink that bad yourself, you take the easy points and just go home with a W.

It's that BS attitude of him being above the team that should make it obvious his time here is done, if not by the FO taking action than for sure by his own desire, given his willingness to forego the benefit of the team for his own image. Russ is out and has been now for a bit.

 

[nwHawk]

If we’re going to bring up Meyers confidence and lack of success lately, we should also remember that Russ has been awful on 3rd down too. His decision making is off, and his escape abilities have declined. Teams are better prepared to play him.

That sack and his post game comments reek of hero ball mentality. Superman is dead.

 

[OrangeGravy]

Russ's attitude and position on that play is a carryover from his now obviously flawed belief that if the offense ran through him, the Seahawks would be better for it. His words and play have shown it for a full two seasons now, and he's been obstinant and blindly unapologetic about it. It makes it pretty obvious again how completely off reservation and at odds he is with Pete. And honestly, it's embarrassing. He's so hung up on showing that HE'S great and that HE'S the difference that he's willing to give up a chip shot 2 score lead with 7 minutes and instead go for a play that is an unnecessary risk. But hey, if it works, it's another TD.

He didn't even have the common sense to throw the ball away.

And for him to be so dismissive of the idea that it was maybe the wrong play to make stinks even more given how poorly his offense performed AGAIN late in the game when the defense figured him out and AGAIN we couldn't possess the ball enough to keep the Bears from even having a chance to cone back. If you stink that bad yourself, you take the easy points and just go home with a W.

It's that BS attitude of him being above the team that should make it obvious his time here is done, if not by the FO taking action than for sure by his own desire, given his willingness to forego the benefit of the team for his own image. Russ is out and has been now for a bit.

Remember this post-game presser? The final throws of the Let Russ Cookers movement. The Let russ cook thing had my antenna up before the season and when I heard this reference to his greatness, I new it was over. The only players who speak about their own greatness are receivers and corners. 2 position groups that traditionally have massive outwardly expressive ego's. When is the last time you heard any QB say they know they're great? Even if they are and everyone knows it

https://youtu.be/YvD2freLx6Y

 

[Throwdown]

Russ's attitude and position on that play is a carryover from his now obviously flawed belief that if the offense ran through him, the Seahawks would be better for it. His words and play have shown it for a full two seasons now, and he's been obstinant and blindly unapologetic about it. It makes it pretty obvious again how completely off reservation and at odds he is with Pete. And honestly, it's embarrassing. He's so hung up on showing that HE'S great and that HE'S the difference that he's willing to give up a chip shot 2 score lead with 7 minutes and instead go for a play that is an unnecessary risk. But hey, if it works, it's another TD.

He didn't even have the common sense to throw the ball away.

And for him to be so dismissive of the idea that it was maybe the wrong play to make stinks even more given how poorly his offense performed AGAIN late in the game when the defense figured him out and AGAIN we couldn't possess the ball enough to keep the Bears from even having a chance to cone back. If you stink that bad yourself, you take the easy points and just go home with a W.

It's that BS attitude of him being above the team that should make it obvious his time here is done, if not by the FO taking action than for sure by his own desire, given his willingness to forego the benefit of the team for his own image. Russ is out and has been now for a bit.

Remember this post-game presser? The final throws of the Let Russ Cookers movement. The Let russ cook thing had my antenna up before the season and when I heard this reference to his greatness, I new it was over. The only players who speak about their own greatness are receivers and corners. 2 position groups that traditionally have massive outwardly expressive ego's. When is the last time you heard any QB say they know they're great? Even if they are and everyone knows it

https://youtu.be/YvD2freLx6Y

Hahahaha I forgot about that.

God I can’t wait til we have someone cool.

 

[OrangeGravy]

Russ's attitude and position on that play is a carryover from his now obviously flawed belief that if the offense ran through him, the Seahawks would be better for it. His words and play have shown it for a full two seasons now, and he's been obstinant and blindly unapologetic about it. It makes it pretty obvious again how completely off reservation and at odds he is with Pete. And honestly, it's embarrassing. He's so hung up on showing that HE'S great and that HE'S the difference that he's willing to give up a chip shot 2 score lead with 7 minutes and instead go for a play that is an unnecessary risk. But hey, if it works, it's another TD.

He didn't even have the common sense to throw the ball away.

And for him to be so dismissive of the idea that it was maybe the wrong play to make stinks even more given how poorly his offense performed AGAIN late in the game when the defense figured him out and AGAIN we couldn't possess the ball enough to keep the Bears from even having a chance to cone back. If you stink that bad yourself, you take the easy points and just go home with a W.

It's that BS attitude of him being above the team that should make it obvious his time here is done, if not by the FO taking action than for sure by his own desire, given his willingness to forego the benefit of the team for his own image. Russ is out and has been now for a bit.

Remember this post-game presser? The final throws of the Let Russ Cookers movement. The Let russ cook thing had my antenna up before the season and when I heard this reference to his greatness, I new it was over. The only players who speak about their own greatness are receivers and corners. 2 position groups that traditionally have massive outwardly expressive ego's. When is the last time you heard any QB say they know they're great? Even if they are and everyone knows it

https://youtu.be/YvD2freLx6Y

Hahahaha I forgot about that.

God I can’t wait til we have someone cool.

I was like, wait what did he just say, the first time I heard that. Add in all the legacy talk this offseason and it was very clear that Russell is more concerned with Russell than winning football games. His demeanor and the words coming out of his mouth took a very sharp and distinct turn from his first few years. h

 

[keasley45]

Russ's attitude and position on that play is a carryover from his now obviously flawed belief that if the offense ran through him, the Seahawks would be better for it. His words and play have shown it for a full two seasons now, and he's been obstinant and blindly unapologetic about it. It makes it pretty obvious again how completely off reservation and at odds he is with Pete. And honestly, it's embarrassing. He's so hung up on showing that HE'S great and that HE'S the difference that he's willing to give up a chip shot 2 score lead with 7 minutes and instead go for a play that is an unnecessary risk. But hey, if it works, it's another TD.

He didn't even have the common sense to throw the ball away.

And for him to be so dismissive of the idea that it was maybe the wrong play to make stinks even more given how poorly his offense performed AGAIN late in the game when the defense figured him out and AGAIN we couldn't possess the ball enough to keep the Bears from even having a chance to cone back. If you stink that bad yourself, you take the easy points and just go home with a W.

It's that BS attitude of him being above the team that should make it obvious his time here is done, if not by the FO taking action than for sure by his own desire, given his willingness to forego the benefit of the team for his own image. Russ is out and has been now for a bit.

Remember this post-game presser? The final throws of the Let Russ Cookers movement. The Let russ cook thing had my antenna up before the season and when I heard this reference to his greatness, I new it was over. The only players who speak about their own greatness are receivers and corners. 2 position groups that traditionally have massive outwardly expressive ego's. When is the last time you heard any QB say they know they're great? Even if they are and everyone knows it

https://youtu.be/YvD2freLx6Y

Hahahaha I forgot about that.

God I can’t wait til we have someone cool.

The more i see how delusional he seems, the more I think about how long the 'management' of this dudes ego has been going on. I remember reading rumblings back in 2014 and 2015 about how the coaches had Russ in a bubble and tried to make sure that his teammates weren't too harsh in their criticism of him, essentially because he was sensitive to it. The only one that seemed to have a direct conduit was ADB.

He's been protected, overly. He caught criticism for being babied and not being held accountable, particularly earlier on in his career. And for the first half + of his career, his ability was categorized as that of a game manager. So for the last few years now he's been trying to flex into this image that overcomes those early casts, and I think he's become lost in it - especially after his hype machine began pushing the 'Russ is everything' campaign.

Russ was special when he played within a system that allowed him to be great and made it ok when he wasn't.

Russ was great when he was confident but MODEST.

Russ was great when he put the team first and allowed his reputation to sail on the same winds that carried the team to success.

This iteration of Wilson that's so caught up in his own image is a complete failure and he's brought the team down around him. It smacks of immaturity and is lacking of any wisdom or sense of accountability.

But in many ways I think it's what you get when you're management style is all about reinforcing positive outcomes and setting aside hard, critical conversations.

For as much as I appreciate PC's coaching ability and still think he can do good things here, he has a huge blind spot for the need to address shortcomings directly.

 

[Throwdown]

Russ's attitude and position on that play is a carryover from his now obviously flawed belief that if the offense ran through him, the Seahawks would be better for it. His words and play have shown it for a full two seasons now, and he's been obstinant and blindly unapologetic about it. It makes it pretty obvious again how completely off reservation and at odds he is with Pete. And honestly, it's embarrassing. He's so hung up on showing that HE'S great and that HE'S the difference that he's willing to give up a chip shot 2 score lead with 7 minutes and instead go for a play that is an unnecessary risk. But hey, if it works, it's another TD.

He didn't even have the common sense to throw the ball away.

And for him to be so dismissive of the idea that it was maybe the wrong play to make stinks even more given how poorly his offense performed AGAIN late in the game when the defense figured him out and AGAIN we couldn't possess the ball enough to keep the Bears from even having a chance to cone back. If you stink that bad yourself, you take the easy points and just go home with a W.

It's that BS attitude of him being above the team that should make it obvious his time here is done, if not by the FO taking action than for sure by his own desire, given his willingness to forego the benefit of the team for his own image. Russ is out and has been now for a bit.

Remember this post-game presser? The final throws of the Let Russ Cookers movement. The Let russ cook thing had my antenna up before the season and when I heard this reference to his greatness, I new it was over. The only players who speak about their own greatness are receivers and corners. 2 position groups that traditionally have massive outwardly expressive ego's. When is the last time you heard any QB say they know they're great? Even if they are and everyone knows it

https://youtu.be/YvD2freLx6Y

Hahahaha I forgot about that.

God I can’t wait til we have someone cool.

The more i see how delusional he seems, the more I think about how long the 'management' of this dudes ego has been going on. I remember reading rumblings back in 2014 and 2015 about how the coaches had Russ in a bubble and tried to make sure that his teammates weren't too harsh in their criticism of him, essentially because he was sensitive to it. The only one that seemed to have a direct conduit was ADB.

He's been protected, overly. He caught criticism for being babied and not being held accountable, particularly earlier on in his career. And for the first half + of his career, his ability was categorized as that of a game manager. So for the last few years now he's been trying to flex into this image that overcomes those early casts, and I think he's become lost in it - especially after his hype machine began pushing the 'Russ is everything' campaign.

Russ was special when he played within a system that allowed him to be great and made it ok when he wasn't.

Russ was great when he was confident but MODEST.

Russ was great when he put the team first and allowed his reputation to sail on the same winds that carried the team to success.

This iteration of Wilson that's so caught up in his own image is a complete failure and he's brought the team down around him. It smacks of immaturity and is lacking of any wisdom or sense of accountability.

But in many ways I think it's what you get when you're management style is all about reinforcing positive outcomes and setting aside hard, critical conversations.

For as much as I appreciate PC's coaching ability and still think he can do good things here, he has a huge blind spot for the need to address shortcomings directly.

The difference in how Russ has been treated can be see when comparing how they treated Sherm for breaking the golden rule of “protect the team” and the fact that Russ has broken that the last 2 off seasons and is still here.

 

[toffee]

Im with wilson, he tried to get a td. A professional kicker should make a 30+ fg.

Piss-poor situational awareness from Wilson. He had DJ Dallas on a checkdown for a 5 yard gain and a 1st down if Dallas breaks one tackle. Then EZ field goal for Myers makes it a 2-score game. Instead, Russell gives away net 20 yards (-15 yard sack, -5 not taking EZ checkdown) playing hero ball when it was ABSOLUTELY UNNECESSARY.
It does make Russ look selfish and ego-driven.

Any kick in a cold, snowy, windy situation is a crapshoot. Pete's absolutely right and Wilson is dead wrong. With just an incompletion, Myers makes the FG from 15 yards closer. Wilson's Hero-Ball cost the Seahawks the game.

Totally wasn't the defense blowing a double digit lead in the 4th.

Three things happened:

1. The defense blew a double digit lead in the 4th.
2. The kicker could and should made that kick.
3. Our QB made that kick more difficult.

Defense were tired in the 4th, as they would after long minutes on the field. Kicker were great for a season, now struggling, as all kickers do from time to time. QB decision was in question because it was the easiest to eliminate of this three.

 

[Hawker55]

It was stupid football on Russ’ part. There no two ways about it, he cost us the game by making Myers job harder.

Comical. Stupid play, yes. Cost us the game? Not even close.

 

[LTH]

Russ's attitude and position on that play is a carryover from his now obviously flawed belief that if the offense ran through him, the Seahawks would be better for it. His words and play have shown it for a full two seasons now, and he's been obstinant and blindly unapologetic about it. It makes it pretty obvious again how completely off reservation and at odds he is with Pete. And honestly, it's embarrassing. He's so hung up on showing that HE'S great and that HE'S the difference that he's willing to give up a chip shot 2 score lead with 7 minutes and instead go for a play that is an unnecessary risk. But hey, if it works, it's another TD.

He didn't even have the common sense to throw the ball away.

And for him to be so dismissive of the idea that it was maybe the wrong play to make stinks even more given how poorly his offense performed AGAIN late in the game when the defense figured him out and AGAIN we couldn't possess the ball enough to keep the Bears from even having a chance to cone back. If you stink that bad yourself, you take the easy points and just go home with a W.

It's that BS attitude of him being above the team that should make it obvious his time here is done, if not by the FO taking action than for sure by his own desire, given his willingness to forego the benefit of the team for his own image. Russ is out and has been now for a bit.

Remember this post-game presser? The final throws of the Let Russ Cookers movement. The Let russ cook thing had my antenna up before the season and when I heard this reference to his greatness, I new it was over. The only players who speak about their own greatness are receivers and corners. 2 position groups that traditionally have massive outwardly expressive ego's. When is the last time you heard any QB say they know they're great? Even if they are and everyone knows it

https://youtu.be/YvD2freLx6Y

Hahahaha I forgot about that.

God I can’t wait til we have someone cool.

The more i see how delusional he seems, the more I think about how long the 'management' of this dudes ego has been going on. I remember reading rumblings back in 2014 and 2015 about how the coaches had Russ in a bubble and tried to make sure that his teammates weren't too harsh in their criticism of him, essentially because he was sensitive to it. The only one that seemed to have a direct conduit was ADB.

He's been protected, overly. He caught criticism for being babied and not being held accountable, particularly earlier on in his career. And for the first half + of his career, his ability was categorized as that of a game manager. So for the last few years now he's been trying to flex into this image that overcomes those early casts, and I think he's become lost in it - especially after his hype machine began pushing the 'Russ is everything' campaign.

Russ was special when he played within a system that allowed him to be great and made it ok when he wasn't.

Russ was great when he was confident but MODEST.

Russ was great when he put the team first and allowed his reputation to sail on the same winds that carried the team to success.

This iteration of Wilson that's so caught up in his own image is a complete failure and he's brought the team down around him. It smacks of immaturity and is lacking of any wisdom or sense of accountability.

But in many ways I think it's what you get when you're management style is all about reinforcing positive outcomes and setting aside hard, critical conversations.

For as much as I appreciate PC's coaching ability and still think he can do good things here, he has a huge blind spot for the need to address shortcomings directly.

It's not that I don't agree with your points about Russ nor Carroll...I think you are bringing up a topic worthy of discussion.

Clearly, (assuming your right, which we don't know for absolutely sure, but it sure does look right at this point), the question is How is Carroll going to deal with it at this point. if there is a personality issue with in Carrolls coaching style doesn't mean that it can't be fixed if he even recognizes the issue which I'm sure he must.

I don't see Carroll putting aside hard critical conversations i just think Russ isn't buying into Carroll as much as he should. Maybe the issue could be fixed if Carroll brought in a QB coach that coached Wilson Hard... Maybe there are other fixes on the horizon... but looking at it from Carrolls point of view he is in a bit of a pickle being that he will probably retire after his contract expires and his best hope is with Wilson... So how do you fix it is the question... I'm sure Carroll is pondering this..

The more that I think about this I come to a conclusion that this situation is fixed by competition at the position... Lets see if they draft a young QB

LTH

 

[LTH]

Russ's attitude and position on that play is a carryover from his now obviously flawed belief that if the offense ran through him, the Seahawks would be better for it. His words and play have shown it for a full two seasons now, and he's been obstinant and blindly unapologetic about it. It makes it pretty obvious again how completely off reservation and at odds he is with Pete. And honestly, it's embarrassing. He's so hung up on showing that HE'S great and that HE'S the difference that he's willing to give up a chip shot 2 score lead with 7 minutes and instead go for a play that is an unnecessary risk. But hey, if it works, it's another TD.

He didn't even have the common sense to throw the ball away.

And for him to be so dismissive of the idea that it was maybe the wrong play to make stinks even more given how poorly his offense performed AGAIN late in the game when the defense figured him out and AGAIN we couldn't possess the ball enough to keep the Bears from even having a chance to cone back. If you stink that bad yourself, you take the easy points and just go home with a W.

It's that BS attitude of him being above the team that should make it obvious his time here is done, if not by the FO taking action than for sure by his own desire, given his willingness to forego the benefit of the team for his own image. Russ is out and has been now for a bit.

Remember this post-game presser? The final throws of the Let Russ Cookers movement. The Let russ cook thing had my antenna up before the season and when I heard this reference to his greatness, I new it was over. The only players who speak about their own greatness are receivers and corners. 2 position groups that traditionally have massive outwardly expressive ego's. When is the last time you heard any QB say they know they're great? Even if they are and everyone knows it

https://youtu.be/YvD2freLx6Y

Hahahaha I forgot about that.

God I can’t wait til we have someone cool.

The more i see how delusional he seems, the more I think about how long the 'management' of this dudes ego has been going on. I remember reading rumblings back in 2014 and 2015 about how the coaches had Russ in a bubble and tried to make sure that his teammates weren't too harsh in their criticism of him, essentially because he was sensitive to it. The only one that seemed to have a direct conduit was ADB.

He's been protected, overly. He caught criticism for being babied and not being held accountable, particularly earlier on in his career. And for the first half + of his career, his ability was categorized as that of a game manager. So for the last few years now he's been trying to flex into this image that overcomes those early casts, and I think he's become lost in it - especially after his hype machine began pushing the 'Russ is everything' campaign.

Russ was special when he played within a system that allowed him to be great and made it ok when he wasn't.

Russ was great when he was confident but MODEST.

Russ was great when he put the team first and allowed his reputation to sail on the same winds that carried the team to success.

This iteration of Wilson that's so caught up in his own image is a complete failure and he's brought the team down around him. It smacks of immaturity and is lacking of any wisdom or sense of accountability.

But in many ways I think it's what you get when you're management style is all about reinforcing positive outcomes and setting aside hard, critical conversations.

For as much as I appreciate PC's coaching ability and still think he can do good things here, he has a huge blind spot for the need to address shortcomings directly.

Here is the thing... I didn't see horrible decision making from Russ in the Rams game I just saw that he was not on his game and made bad throws.

Maybe you could point out what I missed?

I did see it a little bit in the bears game on that one play with the missed FG

So thats kind of why I'm on the fence still. I still think Wilson might not be100% but I don't know.

You're not responding to my posts so I can't tell where you're at with what i'm thinking and i have no way of checking my thoughts..


LTH