RW > Luck

[Sac]

That is all

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Accurate. Though Luck was still a damn good QB. Injuries just caught up to him. A lot of that is on the Colts for putting such a crap O Line in front of him until last season. I think the Hawks did just fine with their 3rd round pick :irishdrinkers:

 

[Seymour]

 

[MontanaHawk05]

I'm bummed that Luck never got a shot at the big dance. He was easily good enough.

Plus, Wilson hasn't had nearly the spate of injuries Luck did.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

I'm bummed that Luck never got a shot at the big dance. He was easily good enough.

Plus, Wilson hasn't had nearly the spate of injuries Luck did.

Ryan Grigson ruined Luck with his terrible drafting and never putting even a mediocre line in front of him.

Luck's a good dude, and a good to great QB at times..................... so I don't like all the crap he's taking from Colts fans and pundits throwing shade.

Sorry Colts fans, you fell ass backwards into 20 straight years of having a great QB. No sympathy from me.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Going from Manning to Luck, dayum.

 

[olyfan63]

I remember in particular that game against the Colts a few years back, a LOSS, where Luck seemed to hit all these small windows and beat decent coverage. He hit TY Hilton a couple times on long bombs.

Luck's talent was on display that game, and it got his Colts team a W in a game they should have lost.
Then there's that 45-44 playoff comeback win Luck pulled off a couple years ago--unbelievable, and absolutely brilliant.

In terms of accomplishment and VALUE, I think if the Seahawks had a single-use time machine and the #1 pick that year, and the choice of any player, we'd nearly all pick RW over Luck, as a better fit for the Seahawks and greater long-term value.

With Luck under center, we don't get to SB48. We probably go 11-5 or 12-4 instead of 13-3, losing the game with Houston, the one with the "Shoeless Dick Sherman" pick 6, and playing the NFCCG at SF. But maybe Luck wins that one for us with his special talent. More likely, the hideously bad OL of that year gets exploited and Luck is injured and a TJack-led Seahawks team loses that game. If we did get past SF, then no question we still win SB48 in a beat-down with Luck under center.

Luck would not have survived the NFL as long as he did with the crap OL that Tom Cable put out there. It's also possible Carroll would have canned Cable much earlier for his OL allowing Luck to get battered so much. RW 's mobility allowed Cable to keep his job years longer than Cable's actual performance dictated.

So for the Pete Carroll Seahawks, clearly overall RW > Luck.
The game has, all too soon, lost a great talent in Luck.

 

[vin.couve12]

Why the hell are so many people straight up psycho about this? There are literally multiple memes about the joke that this is.

 

[Ad Hawk]

See, this is why Sac is a legend. And funny, IMO.

He throws a piece of raw meat into the cage, and watches in silence as the wolves pounce and rip it to shreds, and each other in the process.

Amazing, Sac, how you took a thread from the NFL Forum, wrote RW's name into it, and served it here raw. LOL!

 

[hawksincebirth]

Crazy who would of bet Russell Wilson would be the only hof qb in the 2012 draft...
Luck, tannehill, weeden, rg3, all busts. Maybe foles has a chance, slim at best

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Yet guys like Smell Diaper had many of those guys as great picks :roll:

 

[hawksfansinceday1]

See, this is why Sac is a legend. And funny, IMO....

@peaches incoming in 5-4-3-2....

 

[Mad Dog]

Crazy who would of bet Russell Wilson would be the only hof qb in the 2012 draft...
Luck, tannehill, weeden, rg3, all busts. Maybe foles has a chance, slim at best

Funny that Foles and Wilson have SB rings (as starters in the big game) as late round picks. Who would have bet the two guys with rings from the 2012 QB bonanza would be the late rounders and most of the first rounders end up as busts or injury concerns.

 

[IndyHawk]

The crap I hear the Colts didn't give Luck an OL..Bullshit!
He had a much better line than the Hawks ever had.One
thing that gets missed is that for a couple seasons the line
was snakebit by the injury bug..Go ahead and look at some
of their guys who made All-Pro..Some were the same guys
who protected Manning.
He doesn't want to play because he fears pain and that's
fine ..He never was going to be anything like Peyton and
those shoes were too big for him to fill.
I have to edit to add RW in here..
Luck couldn't even wear RW's jock as it would likely be
too big for him!

 

[SoulfishHawk]

:snack:

 

[Sgt. Largent]

The crap I hear the Colts didn't give Luck an OL..Bullshit!
He had a much better line than the Hawks ever had.One
thing that gets missed is that for a couple seasons the line
was snakebit by the injury bug..Go ahead and look at some
of their guys who made All-Pro..Some were the same guys
who protected Manning.
He doesn't want to play because he fears pain and that's
fine ..He never was going to be anything like Peyton and
those shoes were too big for him to fill.

Between 2012-2016 Luck was sacked, pressured and hit more times than any other QB, including Russell.

Just cause Grigson kept drafting O-linemen doesn't mean he wasn't terrible at doing it, and it certainly contributed to Luck getting pounded every week.

He fears pain? Lol, c'mon man. Luck and NFL players put their body through things 99% of us would never endure, shortening their life span and dealing with chronic issues for their rest of their lives.

Like Sherman said yesterday, no one's asking for you to feel sorry for them, but for everyone to be jumping all over Luck is insane. No one would be all over a roofer, mechanic or construction worker with a broken body wanting to quit......but for some reason because it's the NFL, everyone thinks they can pass judgement.

 

[IndyHawk]

The crap I hear the Colts didn't give Luck an OL..Bullshit!
He had a much better line than the Hawks ever had.One
thing that gets missed is that for a couple seasons the line
was snakebit by the injury bug..Go ahead and look at some
of their guys who made All-Pro..Some were the same guys
who protected Manning.
He doesn't want to play because he fears pain and that's
fine ..He never was going to be anything like Peyton and
those shoes were too big for him to fill.

Between 2012-2016 Luck was sacked, pressured and hit more times than any other QB, including Russell.

Just cause Grigson kept drafting O-linemen doesn't mean he wasn't terrible at doing it, and it certainly contributed to Luck getting pounded every week.

He fears pain? Lol, c'mon man. Luck and NFL players put their body through things 99% of us would never endure, shortening their life span and dealing with chronic issues for their rest of their lives.

Like Sherman said yesterday, no one's asking for you to feel sorry for them, but for everyone to be jumping all over Luck is insane. No one would be all over a roofer, mechanic or construction worker with a broken body wanting to quit......but for some reason because it's the NFL, everyone thinks they can pass judgement.

I didn't care for Grigs as a GM but I always felt Luck was overated from the
start.His makeup didn't pass my eye test and I don't think he was all in for the game.
You can start with training ect and so forth but that is my opinion.He said himself
that he feared injuries(I didn't)

 

[Maulbert]

Crazy who would of bet Russell Wilson would be the only hof qb in the 2012 draft...
Luck, tannehill, weeden, rg3, all busts. Maybe foles has a chance, slim at best

I'd say statistically, Cousins still has a chance if he can swing the narrative. Right now, he's basically Matt Stafford with a worse arm and better stats.

 

[John63]

The crap I hear the Colts didn't give Luck an OL..Bullshit!
He had a much better line than the Hawks ever had.One
thing that gets missed is that for a couple seasons the line
was snakebit by the injury bug..Go ahead and look at some
of their guys who made All-Pro..Some were the same guys
who protected Manning.
He doesn't want to play because he fears pain and that's
fine ..He never was going to be anything like Peyton and
those shoes were too big for him to fill.

Between 2012-2016 Luck was sacked, pressured and hit more times than any other QB, including Russell.

Just cause Grigson kept drafting O-linemen doesn't mean he wasn't terrible at doing it, and it certainly contributed to Luck getting pounded every week.

He fears pain? Lol, c'mon man. Luck and NFL players put their body through things 99% of us would never endure, shortening their life span and dealing with chronic issues for their rest of their lives.

Like Sherman said yesterday, no one's asking for you to feel sorry for them, but for everyone to be jumping all over Luck is insane. No one would be all over a roofer, mechanic or construction worker with a broken body wanting to quit......but for some reason because it's the NFL, everyone thinks they can pass judgement.

Yeah I need stats on this one "between 2012-2016 Luck was sacked, pressured and hit more times than any other QB, including Russell."

Pretty sure this is wrong

"Footballoutsiders.com looked at eighteen quarterbacks from 2012 – 2016. Russell Wilson was pressured more than any other quarterback in the group, feeling the pass rush on 33.9 percent of the time. No other QB was pressured more than 30 percent. " https://12thmanrising.com/2018/05/20/seahawks-addressed-quarterback-pressure-problem-differently/

So that was Pressure and its not Luck

If you just add up their sacks form 2012-2016
Luck 156
Wilson 205

So that is sacks and again not Luck.

So luck is not the most in pressured or sacks.

Now as of 2015 Luck was most hit by 26 over Wilson who was 4th however that difference does not even make up for the sack difference. https://www.thefalcoholic.com/2016/...-is-the-third-most-hit-quarterback-since-2012 Now that does not include the 2016 season but, Luck has an avg of 93 hit per year which would give him 468 from 2012-2016, Wilson avg 87 per year and that would give him a total of 436 with a difference of 32 and not close too enough to overcome the 49 difference in sacks or the fact that Luck was not even in the top 5 on pressure. This also does not take into account the hits on runs only the hits while behind the line, and given Wilson runs more than Luck he gets hit more.

So in total yeah sorry Luck was not the most

 

[McGruff]

It's weird how this argument often comes back to Seahawks fans vehemently arguing for how much the Seahawks have sucked.