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Hmm....ROY much?
Zebulon Dak":1zrs0kkj said:Not good enough. Put in Flynn.
I see what you did there.JSeahawks":2nw8p25g said:Zebulon Dak":2nw8p25g said:Not good enough. Put in Flynn.
Flynn's too tall. He'll never be successful in our offense.
Zebulon Dak":1klyi40h said:Not good enough. Put in Flynn.
peachesenregalia":2rfu7w3t said:I get what you're saying about Luck, and I think he'd be a deserving ROY barring a meltdown, but the numbers just don't stack up. He has 10 TDs and 9 INTs on the year, completion % isn't as good as Wilson's and is passer rating is way down there.
If all you look at is ESPNs obviously subjective and biased QBR, then yeah, he's running away with the ROY prize. Looking deeper, and i'd say Wilson is firmly in the race.
Seahawk Sailor":robq6jdj said:Throwing for 400 yards a game doesn't matter if you don't get the win. I'll take his 188 yards, two touchdowns and a win any day of the week. And so will Pete Carroll and the rest of the team.
peachesenregalia":2q8hhxbb said:HansGruber":2q8hhxbb said:peachesenregalia":2q8hhxbb said:I get what you're saying about Luck, and I think he'd be a deserving ROY barring a meltdown, but the numbers just don't stack up. He has 10 TDs and 9 INTs on the year, completion % isn't as good as Wilson's and is passer rating is way down there.
If all you look at is ESPNs obviously subjective and biased QBR, then yeah, he's running away with the ROY prize. Looking deeper, and i'd say Wilson is firmly in the race.
Be careful when looking at stats. It's easy to confuse those numbers with what actually happens in-game. I've been watching the Colts for about 5-6 weeks now, every game, just to get an idea of how good Luck really is (out of curiosity). Those stats don't even begin to tell the story.
Andrew Luck is literally carrying that team right now. You can see it on the field. The lack of TDs and the INTs are more of an indicator of how poor his teammates are playing. For all the talk about Seattle's drops and "bad" WR play, the Colts have actually been much worse. They look terrible, in fact. Most of those INTs have been on his WRs, the kid doesn't make many bad throws. And quite a few of those TDs have been Luck running it in, or making really accurate throws into tight coverage. His WRs just don't seem to get separation, but he's still putting the ball right where it needs to be and creating yards where there should have been a loss.
One thing that has really really impressed me about Andrew Luck is that he has been adapting to his WRs. You'll see plays where a WR obviously runs a wrong route, Luck looks to where the WR should be, then adjusts and sees the WR somewhere else, and fires a pass if the WR is open. He's not only making reads, he's reading ahead of coverage, and finding guys all over the field, throwing receivers open, etc.
Andrew Luck is the real deal. It bums me out, because the Colts obviously threw away the season ("cheated") to get him in the draft, and I don't think that's right. But that doesn't say anything about Luck himself, the player. Andrew Luck is going to win a lot of games in Indy. He might even be better than Peyton.
Anyone who would call Wilson a better player than Luck hasn't been watching both of them play. It'd be a shame if Wilson got the OROY over Luck. Luck has earned it.
Well, why don't you just go and god damn live in Indiana then?
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HansGruber":209j7xvr said:Be careful when looking at stats. It's easy to confuse those numbers with what actually happens in-game. I've been watching the Colts for about 5-6 weeks now, every game, just to get an idea of how good Luck really is (out of curiosity). Those stats don't even begin to tell the story.
Andrew Luck is literally carrying that team right now. You can see it on the field. The lack of TDs and the INTs are more of an indicator of how poor his teammates are playing. For all the talk about Seattle's drops and "bad" WR play, the Colts have actually been much worse. They look terrible, in fact. Most of those INTs have been on his WRs, the kid doesn't make many bad throws. And quite a few of those TDs have been Luck running it in, or making really accurate throws into tight coverage. His WRs just don't seem to get separation, but he's still putting the ball right where it needs to be and creating yards where there should have been a loss.
One thing that has really really impressed me about Andrew Luck is that he has been adapting to his WRs. You'll see plays where a WR obviously runs a wrong route, Luck looks to where the WR should be, then adjusts and sees the WR somewhere else, and fires a pass if the WR is open. He's not only making reads, he's reading ahead of coverage, and finding guys all over the field, throwing receivers open, etc.
Andrew Luck is the real deal. It bums me out, because the Colts obviously threw away the season ("cheated") to get him in the draft, and I don't think that's right. But that doesn't say anything about Luck himself, the player. Andrew Luck is going to win a lot of games in Indy. He might even be better than Peyton.
Anyone who would call Wilson a better player than Luck hasn't been watching both of them play. It'd be a shame if Wilson got the OROY over Luck. Luck has earned it.
HansGruber":3medl5qb said:Wilson looks fantastic and that's all I care about. Do we finally have an NFL-caliber starting QB??? Sure looks like it, and that is awesome. I'll take it.
As to Andrew Luck winning rookie of the year, he deserves it. The Colts were the worst team in the NFL last season, added Andrew Luck, and are now one of the best in the AFC. I think you could argue they're in the Top 3. That kid has turned that team around, and he's on another level than Wilson. I understand the homerism with Wilson, but come on. Go watch any of the last 3-4 Colts games and you're going to immediately see the difference. Luck is definitely living up to the hype.