Russell Wilson Interesting Numbers

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Did anyone else catch some of the interesting stats Cris Collinsworth pointed out:

1. That Russell Wilson, according to advanced stats has the most accurate over the shoulder throw in the league
2. That he's had 308 pressures in 2 seconds or less since last season, most in the league
3. That he's been at least the 4th most pressured QB, mostly the 2nd, since 2013

Bonus: That the Seahawks play poorly on grass but are like 10-2 on turf

I know most of these stats seem obvious but it was interesting to see it laid out on TV
 

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hgwellz12":1v9b5iub said:
Ehh, trade him for Brisket...

Now, you're onto something there. It's tough to beat a good brisket.
 

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We have seen QB after QB get their career derailed because of bad O-lines

RW will bail on the pocket a bit quick, he will throw it a bit high, but every single time the guy is allowed to get in rhythm he proves that he is an ELITE QB. Every time. That is why he has so many come from behind wins.

So does he always play elite - no. Could there be a damn good reason for that? You go out and get in a car wreck then get behind the wheels again and you realize why he may be skittish. Ask any baseball player how it felt when they went back to the plate the time after having gotten drilled in the face by a baseball.

It happens to RW every single game over and over again. And just like Big Ben a bunch of times he is counted out and still comes up with some amazing play. Yet people get pissed when he holds on to the ball slightly to long looking for the weekly miracle

Man if he was playing for the Cowboys with that O-line or the Pats with their game plans people would think he was the best QB in the league
 

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Wilson ain't never been our problem. Making people respect him HAS been our problem since his rookie year.
 

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KARAVARUS":2ac9a3ty said:
Wilson ain't never been our problem. Making people respect him HAS been our problem since his rookie year.

And unfortunately even some Seahawk fans don't respect him in this forum.
 

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mikeak":3pc1jxtr said:
We have seen QB after QB get their career derailed because of bad O-lines

RW will bail on the pocket a bit quick, he will throw it a bit high, but every single time the guy is allowed to get in rhythm he proves that he is an ELITE QB. Every time. That is why he has so many come from behind wins.

So does he always play elite - no. Could there be a damn good reason for that? You go out and get in a car wreck then get behind the wheels again and you realize why he may be skittish. Ask any baseball player how it felt when they went back to the plate the time after having gotten drilled in the face by a baseball.

It happens to RW every single game over and over again. And just like Big Ben a bunch of times he is counted out and still comes up with some amazing play. Yet people get pissed when he holds on to the ball slightly to long looking for the weekly miracle

Man if he was playing for the Cowboys with that O-line or the Pats with their game plans people would think he was the best QB in the league

Now imagine that baseball player got drilled in the face three out four at bats a game.

IE39H7
 

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The interesting stats to me were the comparison to Andrew Luck. Wilson's numbers (plus the Super Bowl win and appearance) are clearly better than Luck's now, and far outdistance all the quarterbacks taken between them in the draft. Not bad for a shorty shrimp running for his life behind one of the worst offensive lines in the league.
 

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Stats schmats. He zoomed back in the second half but played poorly in the first half. Those two sacks WERE on him.

Part of it is the playbook he handed. Part of it is worse pocket presence than Matt Stafford. Climbing his pocket just a little could have prevented that safety.
 

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MontanaHawk05":1ybigpc5 said:
Stats schmats. He zoomed back in the second half but played poorly in the first half. Those two sacks WERE on him.

Part of it is the playbook he handed. Part of it is worse pocket presence than Matt Stafford. Climbing his pocket just a little could have prevented that safety.

Nice how many here call the sacks that are on him, and NEVER credit him for all the sacks he evades that most QB's don't. It helps to make their point is why it isn't acknowledged by these posters.
 

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Seahawk Sailor":3l7fvm62 said:
The interesting stats to me were the comparison to Andrew Luck. Wilson's numbers (plus the Super Bowl win and appearance) are clearly better than Luck's now, and far outdistance all the quarterbacks taken between them in the draft. Not bad for a shorty shrimp running for his life behind one of the worst offensive lines in the league.

Collinsworth was even dumb enough to say Wilson is still #2 behind Luck. Wtf? Really?
 

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mikeak":1p6dl3j2 said:
We have seen QB after QB get their career derailed because of bad O-lines

RW will bail on the pocket a bit quick, he will throw it a bit high, but every single time the guy is allowed to get in rhythm he proves that he is an ELITE QB. Every time. That is why he has so many come from behind wins.

So does he always play elite - no. Could there be a damn good reason for that? You go out and get in a car wreck then get behind the wheels again and you realize why he may be skittish. Ask any baseball player how it felt when they went back to the plate the time after having gotten drilled in the face by a baseball.

It happens to RW every single game over and over again. And just like Big Ben a bunch of times he is counted out and still comes up with some amazing play. Yet people get pissed when he holds on to the ball slightly to long looking for the weekly miracle

Man if he was playing for the Cowboys with that O-line or the Pats with their game plans people would think he was the best QB in the league

Seriously, it's hard to watch what RW does when he's on and think "oh, why are we paying him 20mm". It's obvious the dude has the chops to make it rain but he needs his teammates.
 

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cymatica":3kjz1lpw said:
Seahawk Sailor":3kjz1lpw said:
The interesting stats to me were the comparison to Andrew Luck. Wilson's numbers (plus the Super Bowl win and appearance) are clearly better than Luck's now, and far outdistance all the quarterbacks taken between them in the draft. Not bad for a shorty shrimp running for his life behind one of the worst offensive lines in the league.

Collinsworth was even dumb enough to say Wilson is still #2 behind Luck. Wtf? Really?

Numbers wise Wilson is clearly #1. Luck has been unfortunate (as are most #1 picks) because his first few seasons the Colts sucked ass and had a terrible supporting cast on both sides of the ball. I think if both were available today it would depend on the system you wanted to run as to who you would take.
 
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HawkerD":2h0hfi2n said:
cymatica":2h0hfi2n said:
Seahawk Sailor":2h0hfi2n said:
The interesting stats to me were the comparison to Andrew Luck. Wilson's numbers (plus the Super Bowl win and appearance) are clearly better than Luck's now, and far outdistance all the quarterbacks taken between them in the draft. Not bad for a shorty shrimp running for his life behind one of the worst offensive lines in the league.

Collinsworth was even dumb enough to say Wilson is still #2 behind Luck. Wtf? Really?

Numbers wise Wilson is clearly #1. Luck has been unfortunate (as are most #1 picks) because his first few seasons the Colts sucked ass and had a terrible supporting cast on both sides of the ball. I think if both were available today it would depend on the system you wanted to run as to who you would take.

Although Wilson has had a better defense, in terms of offensive person there's no question imo that Wilson has had less talent on offense. And if we think he has better talent that only shows how good Wilson actually is, but he has a worse O-line and the weapons are at minimum similar
 

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MontanaHawk05":37xzpm62 said:
Stats schmats. He zoomed back in the second half but played poorly in the first half. Those two sacks WERE on him.

Part of it is the playbook he handed. Part of it is worse pocket presence than Matt Stafford. Climbing his pocket just a little could have prevented that safety.

I think I heard the announcers say last night that the Colts were intentionally avoiding rushing up the middle so as not to give Wilson an opportunity to step up in the pocket.
 

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HawkerD":2jn54q1m said:
cymatica":2jn54q1m said:
Seahawk Sailor":2jn54q1m said:
The interesting stats to me were the comparison to Andrew Luck. Wilson's numbers (plus the Super Bowl win and appearance) are clearly better than Luck's now, and far outdistance all the quarterbacks taken between them in the draft. Not bad for a shorty shrimp running for his life behind one of the worst offensive lines in the league.

Collinsworth was even dumb enough to say Wilson is still #2 behind Luck. Wtf? Really?

Numbers wise Wilson is clearly #1. Luck has been unfortunate (as are most #1 picks) because his first few seasons the Colts sucked ass and had a terrible supporting cast on both sides of the ball. I think if both were available today it would depend on the system you wanted to run as to who you would take.
Russell Wilson is a waayy... smarter QB all around. You would think with all of the pressures on each snap, RW would have thrown more interceptions. But stats say Luck throws more interceptions, year in and year out; and it's one of those stats that has a real negative outcome, sometimes 'the' negative outcome that decides a game.
 

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Seymour":1sxgi7jo said:
MontanaHawk05":1sxgi7jo said:
Stats schmats. He zoomed back in the second half but played poorly in the first half. Those two sacks WERE on him.

Part of it is the playbook he handed. Part of it is worse pocket presence than Matt Stafford. Climbing his pocket just a little could have prevented that safety.

Nice how many here call the sacks that are on him, and NEVER credit him for all the sacks he evades that most QB's don't. It helps to make their point is why it isn't acknowledged by these posters.
I call BS. People have credited Wilson his whole career for his amazing escapes. When you hear commentators and fans talk about Russ, his escapability is the first attribute that you generally hear about. What many people overlook is his piss poor pocket presence. I've seen him spin around in the pocket like a dog chasing his tail before -- this season in fact, when he even had a perfectly clean pocket. The end result is he wasted 3 seconds, and walked himself into a defensive player and in the process he missed a wide open receiver because he was busy spinning around. His Houdini act is fun to watch, but it also is very frustrating at times. I've also seen him completely ignore his check down when pressure was bearing down on him.

Russell Wilson can turn some impossible situations into huge gains, but he also has the tendency to turn what should have be mundane, routine plays into monumental tasks.
 

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