Russell’s trade value dropping like a rock.

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TheLegendOfBoom":f5fopn8o said:
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Now Russ is Ichiro at the end? Now I've heard it all.
He's 32 years old. He has several good years in front of him. Tom Brady is 75 and still playing well.
Do not compare Wilson to the GOAT Tom Brady.

Wilson is not in Tom Brady’s League.

The league is figuring out Wilson isn’t a pocket passer and does not want to throw the quick short pass game.

Brady shreds you any and all ways he can.

Wilson primarily wants the home run ball and is willing to throw that into double and triple coverage just to make miracle plays that are just bone headed decisions.

At least a competent QB understands like Brady will take what the defense gives him and play the better odds for completing a pass.

There’s a reason why Brady is still winning Super Bowls cause he mentally is capable of making the best throws at the proper times.

Wilson for some reason is totally against making an easy completion and wants to the the hero with long balls that are covered by defenses now.

Wrong narrative dude, your accusation of "Wilson for some reason is totally against making an easy completion and wants to the the hero with long balls that are covered by defenses now" were Pete's doing, ole Pete wouldn't let him do the easy stuff. Literally held Russ's throwing arm at time. Poor Russ has been so wronged and shackled.

Correct narrative? Free Russ, let him cook.

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Lol, this thread is laughable. RW is a top QB in this league. Put him behind a real offensive line and and a competent head coach, I'd put him top 2... some people's kids man.....
 

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TheLegendOfBoom":183dbny8 said:
SoulfishHawk":183dbny8 said:
Now Russ is Ichiro at the end? Now I've heard it all.
He's 32 years old. He has several good years in front of him. Tom Brady is 75 and still playing well.
Do not compare Wilson to the GOAT Tom Brady.

Wilson is not in Tom Brady’s League.

The league is figuring out Wilson isn’t a pocket passer and does not want to throw the quick short pass game.

Brady shreds you any and all ways he can.

Wilson primarily wants the home run ball and is willing to throw that into double and triple coverage just to make miracle plays that are just bone headed decisions.

At least a competent QB understands like Brady will take what the defense gives him and play the better odds for completing a pass.

There’s a reason why Brady is still winning Super Bowls cause he mentally is capable of making the best throws at the proper times.

Wilson for some reason is totally against making an easy completion and wants to the the hero with long balls that are covered by defenses now.

One first needs a consistent pocket to be a pocket passer. :2thumbs: put Brady behind our line and see how your hero stacks up.
 

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hawker84":2xbmrcss said:
TheLegendOfBoom":2xbmrcss said:
SoulfishHawk":2xbmrcss said:
Now Russ is Ichiro at the end? Now I've heard it all.
He's 32 years old. He has several good years in front of him. Tom Brady is 75 and still playing well.
Do not compare Wilson to the GOAT Tom Brady.

Wilson is not in Tom Brady’s League.

The league is figuring out Wilson isn’t a pocket passer and does not want to throw the quick short pass game.

Brady shreds you any and all ways he can.

Wilson primarily wants the home run ball and is willing to throw that into double and triple coverage just to make miracle plays that are just bone headed decisions.

At least a competent QB understands like Brady will take what the defense gives him and play the better odds for completing a pass.

There’s a reason why Brady is still winning Super Bowls cause he mentally is capable of making the best throws at the proper times.

Wilson for some reason is totally against making an easy completion and wants to the the hero with long balls that are covered by defenses now.

One first needs a consistent pocket to be a pocket passer. :2thumbs: put Brady behind our line and see how your hero
stacks up.

Put Brady behind this line and it instantly looks like a top-10 unit, because Brady will throw the damned out route when it comes open rather than looking it off and pirouetting into the loving arms of a defensive end.
 

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hawker84":tnir5gbl said:
TheLegendOfBoom":tnir5gbl said:
SoulfishHawk":tnir5gbl said:
Now Russ is Ichiro at the end? Now I've heard it all.
He's 32 years old. He has several good years in front of him. Tom Brady is 75 and still playing well.
Do not compare Wilson to the GOAT Tom Brady.

Wilson is not in Tom Brady’s League.

The league is figuring out Wilson isn’t a pocket passer and does not want to throw the quick short pass game.

Brady shreds you any and all ways he can.

Wilson primarily wants the home run ball and is willing to throw that into double and triple coverage just to make miracle plays that are just bone headed decisions.

At least a competent QB understands like Brady will take what the defense gives him and play the better odds for completing a pass.

There’s a reason why Brady is still winning Super Bowls cause he mentally is capable of making the best throws at the proper times.

Wilson for some reason is totally against making an easy completion and wants to the the hero with long balls that are covered by defenses now.

One first needs a consistent pocket to be a pocket passer. :2thumbs: put Brady behind our line and see how your hero stacks up.


Not to mention he has one of the best passer ratings from the pocket in the NFL Also not to mention 60-70% of passes have been short just so much lying going on in this forum
 

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John63":u4j6qvby said:
hawker84":u4j6qvby said:
TheLegendOfBoom":u4j6qvby said:
SoulfishHawk":u4j6qvby said:
Now Russ is Ichiro at the end? Now I've heard it all.
He's 32 years old. He has several good years in front of him. Tom Brady is 75 and still playing well.
Do not compare Wilson to the GOAT Tom Brady.

Wilson is not in Tom Brady’s League.

The league is figuring out Wilson isn’t a pocket passer and does not want to throw the quick short pass game.

Brady shreds you any and all ways he can.

Wilson primarily wants the home run ball and is willing to throw that into double and triple coverage just to make miracle plays that are just bone headed decisions.

At least a competent QB understands like Brady will take what the defense gives him and play the better odds for completing a pass.

There’s a reason why Brady is still winning Super Bowls cause he mentally is capable of making the best throws at the proper times.

Wilson for some reason is totally against making an easy completion and wants to the the hero with long balls that are covered by defenses now.

One first needs a consistent pocket to be a pocket passer. :2thumbs: put Brady behind our line and see how your hero stacks up.


Not to mention he has one of the best passer ratings from the pocket in the NFL Also not to mention 60-70% of passes have been short just so much lying going on in this forum

His passes to the sideline out of bounds is NOT WHAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT EVER, it's the Seam routes to the TE, it's the crossing patterns intermediate levels, it's the slants, it's the curls in the middle of the field between the numbers he will not throw unless we are in a 2 minute drill or in last throws of trying to pull out a win from behind in the dying minutes of a game.
 

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hawker84":1b6gbfyh said:
TheLegendOfBoom":1b6gbfyh said:
SoulfishHawk":1b6gbfyh said:
Now Russ is Ichiro at the end? Now I've heard it all.
He's 32 years old. He has several good years in front of him. Tom Brady is 75 and still playing well.
Do not compare Wilson to the GOAT Tom Brady.

Wilson is not in Tom Brady’s League.

The league is figuring out Wilson isn’t a pocket passer and does not want to throw the quick short pass game.

Brady shreds you any and all ways he can.

Wilson primarily wants the home run ball and is willing to throw that into double and triple coverage just to make miracle plays that are just bone headed decisions.

At least a competent QB understands like Brady will take what the defense gives him and play the better odds for completing a pass.

There’s a reason why Brady is still winning Super Bowls cause he mentally is capable of making the best throws at the proper times.

Wilson for some reason is totally against making an easy completion and wants to the the hero with long balls that are covered by defenses now.

One first needs a consistent pocket to be a pocket passer. :2thumbs: put Brady behind our line and see how your hero stacks up.

Mr. Duane Brown might beg to differ, few games after he joined the Hawks, he had strong opinions on Russ's plays.
 
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Who would trade more than 2 ones for him?
 

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John63":3lhafl2t said:
hawker84":3lhafl2t said:
TheLegendOfBoom":3lhafl2t said:
SoulfishHawk":3lhafl2t said:
Now Russ is Ichiro at the end? Now I've heard it all.
He's 32 years old. He has several good years in front of him. Tom Brady is 75 and still playing well.
Do not compare Wilson to the GOAT Tom Brady.

Wilson is not in Tom Brady’s League.

The league is figuring out Wilson isn’t a pocket passer and does not want to throw the quick short pass game.

Brady shreds you any and all ways he can.

Wilson primarily wants the home run ball and is willing to throw that into double and triple coverage just to make miracle plays that are just bone headed decisions.

At least a competent QB understands like Brady will take what the defense gives him and play the better odds for completing a pass.

There’s a reason why Brady is still winning Super Bowls cause he mentally is capable of making the best throws at the proper times.

Wilson for some reason is totally against making an easy completion and wants to the the hero with long balls that are covered by defenses now.

One first needs a consistent pocket to be a pocket passer. :2thumbs: put Brady behind our line and see how your hero stacks up.


Not to mention he has one of the best passer ratings from the pocket in the NFL Also not to mention 60-70% of passes have been short just so much lying going on in this forum

The vast majority of his short passes are of the type the commentator on today's game called out - the throw that you're left with because it's not obvious where else to go with thr ball. Kurt Warner has put together about 45 minutes of critique on Russel for this and other failures to read simple defenses.
 

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Fade":xtlzm5nf said:
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All picks coming at 27 or later. Best era this franchise has ever had started with two cornerstone players being drafted in the top half of the draft, which statistically has a hugely higher hit rate than the ass end of the first.

So no good players are available after the 27th pick, huh? Interesting…

I'd expect no less of a strawman from you these days, bud. Glad you've still got it.

The Strawman was you ignoring the rest of the post.

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Fade":xtlzm5nf said:
There are stud players to be taken every year in that range. Could've had Creed Humphrey in the 2nd this year as an example.

Trade Russ, he will go to a contender, these are the kinds of picks you're going to get in return.

That's not what strawman means, Fade. At all.

Also, what you said was factually a strawman, as I have never once claimed that star players are not available at all after pick 27.
 

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Trade value is dropping? When he isn’t injured he still plays really good. Teams know that
 

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CPHawk":4k3ilglw said:
Trade value is dropping? When he isn’t injured he still plays really good. Teams know that


Exactly but some don't get that.
 

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We missed our opportunity to get a ransom for him last off-season. Now we need to hope there's at least one sucker left.
 

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We missed our opportunity to get a ransom for him last off-season. Now we need to hope there's at least one sucker left.

Sit him for couple three games will help his trade value. All he has to do after sitting is have couple of OK showing, then suckers will line up. IF we keep playing him and he kept sucking, then we enter the trade value? what trade value.
 
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John63":5vcbvqth said:
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Trade value is dropping? When he isn’t injured he still plays really good. Teams know that


Exactly but some don't get that.

His legs aren’t injured and still can’t escape a sloth chasing him. His eyes aren’t injured but can’t see wide open receivers.

You don’t get that it’s not his finger that’s the issue. All the Hawks need is one GM out there that thinks like you and they’ll get a lot for him but not sure that’s the case anymore if he keeps this terrible play up.
 

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SoulfishHawk":3hvxtac4 said:
Value dropping like a rock? Um, no.
Have you seen the QB's in the NFL. There are MANY teams who would love to have Russ as their QB. And someone would give up a haul. First ever injury, and people act like he's done.
He is done. His problem is mental and not using half the field. Watch him. He is not anywhere near elite anymore. Rebuild the lines and take our chances. I don’t want this version of him anymore. Old slow and unwilling to take what’s there. Give me 2012-2015 Russ any day. Not this bloated substitute.
 
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Value went up a little after yesterday's performance. Yes each game the rest of the year is very important to Russ's trade value (if he will be traded) as I believe GM's are focusing on his current skill-set and not that of his first 9 years in the league.
 

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He is done? Thank you for the laugh. Solid joke
These comments didn't age well at all. But hey, keep trying to convince yourself that he's washed or done.
Not even close.
 

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Hawks fans spend all day arguing about how dumb Wilson is, how much of a fake robot he is, and that he can’t read a defense or run an offense. That’s been happening for over a year now.

Those same Hawks fans expect three first rounders for Wilson. Which is hilarious. So either you simply get off on diminishing Russ and his skill/accomplishment. Or some don’t believe what they’re saying. But if I was a fan of a different team and reading these forums and seeing how much we s*%# on Russ consistently, no way I’d want him.

Hopefully his trade value is a 2nd or 3rd rounder. That way the next team won’t have to sell the farm for a very flawed QB who throws it deep 30 times a game, apparently.
 
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I started this thread a month and a half ago. At this point I am convinced they will not trade Russ as his value has plummeted. You will not get much for him. Just like in the stock market you don't sell when the market tanks.
 
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