Rewatching SF vs GB

[Laloosh]

Good job. that stat shows his average yards per completion, not yards (traveled) per attempt, which is what the ESPN stat supports.

I'm tired as hell so I have no idea if you're being critical, making fun or what. If someone is quoting a stat based on average yards per attempt (not per completion), then who the hell would care unless you're trying to understand if he's *trying* to go deep more often?

Perhaps that's your point, I don't know. Having an avg yards per attempt of nearly 15 while your avg yards per completion is around 10.6 would indicate that he tried to throw deep but was unsuccessful in doing so, would it not?

Moral of the story, Kaepernick had a great statistical day w/out having to make very difficult throws. Not a knock on the man, just an observation about the GB defense. Think I'm finished thinking about stats tonight.

Edit: Scratch that, I get it. 8 of 15 over 15 yards, blah blah blah.. woop dee doo!

 

[Giedi]

Good job. that stat shows his average yards per completion, not yards (traveled) per attempt, which is what the ESPN stat supports.

I'm tired as hell so I have no idea if you're being critical, making fun or what. If someone is quoting a stat based on average yards per attempt (not per completion), then who the hell would care unless you're trying to understand if he's *trying* to go deep more often?

Perhaps that's your point, I don't know. Having an avg yards per attempt of nearly 15 while your avg yards per completion is around 10.6 would indicate that he tried to throw deep but was unsuccessful in doing so, would it not?

Moral of the story, Kaepernick had a great statistical day w/out having to make very difficult throws. Not a knock on the man, just an observation about the GB defense. Think I'm finished thinking about stats tonight.

Edit: Scratch that, I get it. 8 of 15 over 15 yards, blah blah blah.. woop dee doo!

If I may rewrite the question - what if the question was "Can he do to Seattle what he did to Green Bay?" Answer - no, clearly Green Bay's pass defense was 1. not geared to stop the pass and 2. their top of the line defensive backs were injured and 2nd string players were in their place. So no, Kaep won't e throwing 400+ yards againt the 'Hawks.

But going back to the embarassment of a game at C-link last year, I belive that he's progressed enough as a passer that he can convert 3rd downs via the pass this sunday that he couldn't have done last year. Will that be sufficient to win the game? No. Not only will the passing game have to be perfect, but the 49er run game has to do better than how it did against Green Bay. Setting aside any turnovers and assuming no mistakes or unforced errors on both sides, the 12th man will make the 49er offense very difficult to operate considering all the shifts and motions Marvin alluded to, to get a bead on the defensive play. Most likely the 49er offense will be simplified and a lot of audibles will be elimiated or simplified. That's a big disadvantage to how the 49er offense usually operates.

The 49er offense is predicated on deception, the 12th man will make deception very difficult to pull off. Having said that, it's not impossible to win at C-link, the 49ers have done it before, but it will take an extraordinary effort, similar to what they did against Tom in Bradyvill back east.

 

[themunn]

If Seattle abandons the run game and just starts throwing like crazy ala Green Bay, the Niners have already won. That won't happen tho. I expect a steady diet of Lynch/Turbin and alot of play action and deep passes by Wilson.

Spoken like a true non-believer.

That's exactly what happened in the 2nd half of the game in Atlanta, and Seattle were seconds away from pulling off the biggest 4th Q comeback in playoff history.

Seattle's running game went 8 plays for 20 yards - with 4 of those attempts from within 6 yards of the goal line.
Yet Russell Wilson went 15/19 for 246 yards and 2 TDs in a half before the Hail Mary attempt.
If 4 rushing plays outside the red zone in a half isn't abandoning the run game, what is?

 

[Marvin49]

If Seattle abandons the run game and just starts throwing like crazy ala Green Bay, the Niners have already won. That won't happen tho. I expect a steady diet of Lynch/Turbin and alot of play action and deep passes by Wilson.

Spoken like a true non-believer.

That's exactly what happened in the 2nd half of the game in Atlanta, and Seattle were seconds away from pulling off the biggest 4th Q comeback in playoff history.

Seattle's running game went 8 plays for 20 yards - with 4 of those attempts from within 6 yards of the goal line.
Yet Russell Wilson went 15/19 for 246 yards and 2 TDs in a half before the Hail Mary attempt.
If 4 rushing plays outside the red zone in a half isn't abandoning the run game, what is?

SF ain't Atlanta.

Woopee...big comeback in Atlanta. 49ers had one of those too and actually won the game. 17 point deficit was the largest comeback in NFC Championship history.

Do the Niners get credit too for the nearly 22 point comenback in the SB? Didn't think so.

 

[Sarlacc83]

If Seattle abandons the run game and just starts throwing like crazy ala Green Bay, the Niners have already won. That won't happen tho. I expect a steady diet of Lynch/Turbin and alot of play action and deep passes by Wilson.

Spoken like a true non-believer.

That's exactly what happened in the 2nd half of the game in Atlanta, and Seattle were seconds away from pulling off the biggest 4th Q comeback in playoff history.

Seattle's running game went 8 plays for 20 yards - with 4 of those attempts from within 6 yards of the goal line.
Yet Russell Wilson went 15/19 for 246 yards and 2 TDs in a half before the Hail Mary attempt.
If 4 rushing plays outside the red zone in a half isn't abandoning the run game, what is?

SF ain't Atlanta.

Woopee...big comeback in Atlanta. 49ers had one of those too and actually won the game. 17 point deficit was the largest comeback in NFC Championship history.

Do the Niners get credit too for the nearly 22 point comenback in the SB? Didn't think so.

That doesn't address his point in the slightest. You have to answer how the Seahawks are going to lose if they abandon they run. Because, by my eyes, they didn't exactly blow away the Panthers, but Wilson took over that game, too.

Face it, this team is so balanced, we can run or pass or do both to win.

 

[Laloosh]

If SF can't get the plays in and run more quickly than they did at home last week, it won't matter if SEA can run the ball.

 

[themunn]

If Seattle abandons the run game and just starts throwing like crazy ala Green Bay, the Niners have already won. That won't happen tho. I expect a steady diet of Lynch/Turbin and alot of play action and deep passes by Wilson.

Spoken like a true non-believer.

That's exactly what happened in the 2nd half of the game in Atlanta, and Seattle were seconds away from pulling off the biggest 4th Q comeback in playoff history.

Seattle's running game went 8 plays for 20 yards - with 4 of those attempts from within 6 yards of the goal line.
Yet Russell Wilson went 15/19 for 246 yards and 2 TDs in a half before the Hail Mary attempt.
If 4 rushing plays outside the red zone in a half isn't abandoning the run game, what is?

SF ain't Atlanta.

Woopee...big comeback in Atlanta. 49ers had one of those too and actually won the game. 17 point deficit was the largest comeback in NFC Championship history.

Do the Niners get credit too for the nearly 22 point comenback in the SB? Didn't think so.

And neither of those "comebacks" were AS impressive (they were still impressive) - Seattle took the lead despite being down 20 points in the FOURTH QUARTER. That's a comeback.
Seattle's win in Washington where they were down 14-0? Not a comeback. Going ahead with a "4th quarter comebacks" (where a team is within one score of going ahead and then score)? Not a comeback.
Erase a 17-0 deficit? That's impressive. But it's closing a deficit. It was 17-14 in the second quarter. Only when the game appears out of reach can you start considering it a "comeback". 17-0 with over a half to go is only out of reach if you're a poor team.
The Superbowl? That was a "nearly" comeback. If they'd won? That's a comeback. After the KO return I thought the 49ers were dead and buried, and it's not until it looks like that can you really consider it a comeback, and that's why I hate this whole "4th quarter comeback" rubbish. A go-ahead TD in the 4th Q is not a comeback.

REGARDLESS. This is all irrelevant. Seattle's run game was dead and buried. And it didn't slow Wilson down even slightly. In fact, all it did was force him to up his game.