Quinn or Bradley?

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Quinn...
He isn't afraid to unleash them!
 

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I have a lot of respect for Gus Bradley. But the team this year *does* seem to throw a lot more fire at the opposing teams in crucial third down and pressure situations. I like that. Bradley's D had a problem with getting off the field on third down.

I'm remembering that Miami game from last year and wishing we'd shown some of Quinn's inside blitzes during the 4th quarter.
 

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SeeHawkRun":1ps7hwzi said:
I have a lot of respect for Gus Bradley. But the team this year *does* seem to throw a lot more fire at the opposing teams in crucial third down and pressure situations. I like that. Bradley's D had a problem with getting off the field on third down.

I'm remembering that Miami game from last year and wishing we'd shown some of Quinn's inside blitzes during the 4th quarter.

I agree. I was a Bradley fan and backer, but this year I get the sense that Quinn is the DC I wanted Bradley to be.
 

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Bevell is making over 3M a year as OC... he is damn good.. everyone bitched about him the first half of last year when the cuffs were on RW.. when they were removed he exploded on the scene.. this year he is expected to call plays with the same awesomeness.. but we have been missing the core OL for more than 1/2 the season and people bitch... wait till Percy, Okung and Breno come back.. holy shit..
 

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Yeah, I admit I've never been a huge fan of Bevell but I have to admit, the State of the OL has 95% to do with that perception.
 

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Never cared for Bradley, always loved Quinn. I'm sure Bradley did some things very well, things that are beyond my comprehension. But man, that guy loved zone defense, no matter his situation or personnel. I think the balance between Man and Zone usage has been far more reasonable this season. He was also loathe to blitz, back when we had Clemons and pretty much nothing else. And when an injured Bryant was KILLING us at DE last season, he watched and did nothing. I just don't get where the love for him came from. When people in the media tried to hype him and give specifics, the only things I'd ever hear was that he is a great speaker and Monte Kiffin liked him a lot.

By contrast, Quinn helped handpick Michael Bennett in UDFA his first season here, schemed street free agent Raheem Brock into a career year at age 32, was perhaps instrumental in Clemons' massive career turnaround, turned Red Bryant into a useful role player, and presumably played a part in Seattle's multitude of DL acquisitions this offseason, all of which have been terrific additions. He hasn't biltzed as much as I thought he would, but he hasn't really needed to. Four and Five man rushes are statistically the best to use, and that's his bread and butter. Even when we rush four, it's like a blitz because there is so much movement (stunting, etc) on the play.

And after years of being middle of the pack vs the run, our run defense looks pretty impressive so far this year, especially when you filter out QB rushing yards.

I wouldn't go so far as to rate Quinn among the best DCs or Bradley among the worst. Really, I'm not an expert and I can only judge based on limited information. But I felt from day one that losing Bradley would probably help us, and when I heard Quinn would replace him, that confidence increased several times over. I do think that Quinn, so far, is a clear upgrade at DC, based only on the methods he's used and the results he's achieved. There a lot i don't know, but it doesn't really feel like a close call, IMO.
 

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Quinn. So far we're not (almost) losing games in the final 30-60 seconds. Last year - Bears, Dolphins, and Atlanta all immediately come to mind.
 

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Hard to knock a guy for coaching the No 1 D in the league.I dont think Bradley lost us those games anymore than Quinn lost us the Colts game.They were lost on the field IMO.
Seems like Quinn stunts more than Bradley which I like and seems like his blitzes are more effective but he does have more talent and experience to play with.
I would be happy with either
 

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Lesbehonest here..(pitch perfect reference)
Its petes defense.... he coaches it, teaches it and lets someone else implement the plan. but don't fool yourself....
As for the original topic.. I like Quinn simply because he does dial up blitz's and to me that is just one more element that teams need to plan for that we didn't get with Gus.
 

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Pete runs the show. Quinn has 3X the pass rushers than BrAdley ever had here. And I like the way he is utilizing them.

I am a dog guy, but I've never understood the NEED to compare a dog to a cat.
 

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hawks4thewin":2u5vf0cs said:
Lesbehonest here..(pitch perfect reference)
Its petes defense.... he coaches it, teaches it and lets someone else implement the plan. but don't fool yourself....
As for the original topic.. I like Quinn simply because he does dial up blitz's and to me that is just one more element that teams need to plan for that we didn't get with Gus.
It seems to me that your post contains two contradictory lines of reasoning.

It was "Pete's defense" last year just as much as it is this year.
 

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