Pick #27 Rashaad Penny RB

[CPHawk]

The guy Penny really reminds me of is Curtis Martin. Similar running styles, can catch similar size, Penny is 10lbs bigger. People not excited about this kid are more then likely just listening to the talking heads. Watch the film, he pops on film.

After 2 picks I give the seahawks a B for the Penny pick, and an A for the Green pick. who if not for questions with his knee would have been high 2nd.

 

[Vesuve]

Penny is like a cross between David Johnson & Percy Harvin if you mashed the 2 players together.

How any fan could be upset with getting an exciting player like that on the cheap for the next 5 seasons just makes me want to shake my head.

Also too let me point out as I did in the NFL DRAFT DAY FORUM.

Seattle turned the 18th pick into ->

Rashaad Penny

Rasheem Green

a 7th rounder

Upgraded a 7th to a 6th rounder.

That is a hell of a lot of assets for a single pick.

8 picks tomorrow, I'm excited.

Absolutely.

I'm excited, too!

 

[SanDiego49er]

The guy Penny really reminds me of is Curtis Martin. Similar running styles, can catch similar size, Penny is 10lbs bigger. People not excited about this kid are more then likely just listening to the talking heads. Watch the film, he pops on film.

After 2 picks I give the seahawks a B for the Penny pick, and an A for the Green pick. who if not for questions with his knee would have been high 2nd.

The Penny pick is an A+. Not only is he not a reach at that point. It's exactly the opposite. He is a STEAL at #27. He is one of the best players in this draft. As long as he can stay healthy and as long as you can put some decent O Linemen in front of him. He will blow up the NFL. Penny will be great. He is your best RB since Beastmode. But he is a different style of RB. Lynch would carry 4 guys on his back 4 - 5 yards at a time all the way down the field. With the occasional big play. Penny is more of a home run hitter. He is explosive with great vision and excellent moves. He will have some big, long, explosive, game changing plays. He will go all the way sometimes.

 

[Grahamhawker]

And from the 'off-topic-but-not-really' category,

where exactly has ACFan been lately???

 

[JGfromtheNW]

The more I read about and the more I watch of Penny the more I really like this pick. The kid can take a hit, doesn't jaw that much (from what I've seen so far), almost always falls forward when tackled. He definitely has a more upright running style, but it seems he knows when and how to lower his pad level for more leverage, and protects himself pretty well from taking large hits. His ability to return punts and kickoffs, and do so effectively to the tune of 8 career return TDs, speaks volumes to his athletic ability, top-end speed and vision.

I think his vision is fantastic and it seems, much like Carson did in his limited playing time last year, he knows where to find even the smallest of creases to fight for and gain every yard possible -- even on plays that are blown up. I think Penny could be the type of guy that gets some experience and starts to see the game at the margins like the greats do. He could also be a complete and total bust at the next level, though I doubt it.

One of my favorite parts of his highlights is at 3:49 of this video. He's in an open field situation with a DB and his speed and body control allows him to get around the guy without even being touched.

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It's another thing I really like about Penny, he can keep his feet light and maintain speed while changing direction to make his burst even more impressive and effective. You see it in a lot of plays where the play is going one direction and he sees a cutback and goes back around the opposite side.

 

[MontanaHawk05]

Nothing against the dude, but my automatic reaction is to be pissed.

This hotbed of negativity was always going to be pissed no matter what happened. At least we got a productive running back out of it.

Lol whatever dude. We have holes at OL, pass-rusher, and CB to start as well as depth issues at LB. All those positions are more valuable than RB.

Our hole at RB was not smaller than the ones you mentioned.

 

[nrayorr]

I do have to say that I was surprised by this pick because I thought for sure we were going defense or o-line, but after looking at his game tapes I guess I can get behind this pick. Also... why do we still call them game tapes? Hmmm???

 

[adeltaY]

Penny is like a cross between David Johnson & Percy Harvin if you mashed the 2 players together.

How any fan could be upset with getting an exciting player like that on the cheap for the next 5 seasons just makes me want to shake my head.

Also too let me point out as I did in the NFL DRAFT DAY FORUM.

Seattle turned the 18th pick into ->

Rashaad Penny

Rasheem Green

a 7th rounder

Upgraded a 7th to a 6th rounder.

That is a hell of a lot of assets for a single pick.

8 picks tomorrow, I'm excited.

Shoot, if he's got David Johnson (my favorite player) in him and produces at a DJ level then I will be more than satisfied.

 

[seahawkfreak]

For what its worth a ton of guys had Penny as the #2 RB in this class. He also ranked first in many "advanced stat" categories.

He is at worst the 2nd best RB in this class. Only Barkley you could put ahead of him. He is no slouch of an athlete himself. He is hugely explosive, powerful, strong and stocky and massively productive. In addition he brings elite special teams ability. In fact he might even be the best one. He was way more productive than Barkley.

Thanks for your insights but the last sentence is a bit of an exaggeration.

 

[NFSeahawks]

Penny is like a cross between David Johnson & Percy Harvin if you mashed the 2 players together.

No, he's not.

Stop bringing up Percy Harvin there is no resemblance at all. Two completely different players that played different positions.

Great pick, considering the Pats may have wanted him, Moving on.

 

[Fade]

Penny is like a cross between David Johnson & Percy Harvin if you mashed the 2 players together.

No, he's not.

Stop bringing up Percy Harvin there is no resemblance at all. Two completely different players that played different positions.

Great pick, considering the Pats may have wanted him, Moving on.

You don't think his vision and gate in the open field isn't similar to Harvin? Do tell.

 

[Northwest Seahawk]

Nah, Guice is legit. He has "red flags," but the talent is undeniable.

Redskins got great value for Guice.

I agree Guice was good value at the bottom of the second round, I completely disagree with you that Seattle shouldn't have taken Penny .

I just don't think Penny's game translates as well to the NFL as Guice's. But reasonable minds can disagree.

The new post-McDowell policy was almost certainly a factor.

I'm going to agree with you to the extent Guice might be the better player when all is said and done . That said there were 3 backs I wanted Seattle to draft Guice Penny or Jones. Here's the thing you need to keep in mind . He's 5'11 220 is a three down back was lights out in college doesn't fumble .Played basically the same against the tougher schools. He catches the ball well out of the backfield ran a 4.46 . The thin legs thing I went back and looked at his combine I didn't see that they look normal to me. So I would finish with this if he plays up to his potential we have nothing at all to be concerned about.

 

[SanDiego49er]

Nah, Guice is legit. He has "red flags," but the talent is undeniable.

Redskins got great value for Guice.

I agree Guice was good value at the bottom of the second round, I completely disagree with you that Seattle shouldn't have taken Penny .

I just don't think Penny's game translates as well to the NFL as Guice's. But reasonable minds can disagree.

The new post-McDowell policy was almost certainly a factor.

I'm going to agree with you to the extent Guice might be the better player when all is said and done . That said there were 3 backs I wanted Seattle to draft Guice Penny or Jones. Here's the thing you need to keep in mind . He's 5'11 220 is a three down back was lights out in college doesn't fumble .Played basically the same against the tougher schools. He catches the ball well out of the backfield ran a 4.46 . The thin legs thing I went back and looked at his combine I didn't see that they look normal to me. So I would finish with this if he plays up to his potential we have nothing at all to be concerned about.

Thin legs? LOL. WOW. Where are they pulling this nonsense from? He is 5'11" 220 lbs. He is very strong and stocky. I've seen him play every game of his career down here in San Diego. My guess is is the "internet experts" and "analysts" and so called self described Draft experts. I've watched every game of his career. He is not skinny. He is stocky and strong and will run over you. He mostly will run around you and run by you with long speed though. He is more of breakaway home run hitter. That's the type of player he is. But he doesn't have skinny legs. LOL. Please understand this is not an attack on you personally. It's likely more of the untrue things about Penny that people find on the internet and then post on boards. I'm not even saying it is your idea. Just the idea that you saw somewhere probably. It's just the super funny and NOT TRUE nonsense coming from the internet.

Let me put your fears to rest. He is strong and stocky. He will run you over and can be physical. But he is more long speed fast with great vision, moves, cut backs and will more likely run around you or just use speed to get past you and take it to the house.

 

[SanDiego49er]

For what its worth a ton of guys had Penny as the #2 RB in this class. He also ranked first in many "advanced stat" categories.

He is at worst the 2nd best RB in this class. Only Barkley you could put ahead of him. He is no slouch of an athlete himself. He is hugely explosive, powerful, strong and stocky and massively productive. In addition he brings elite special teams ability. In fact he might even be the best one. He was way more productive than Barkley.

Thanks for your insights but the last sentence is a bit of an exaggeration.

He put up better #'s by a lot compared to Barkley. I wasn't really joking.

Barkley......1271 yards.......18 TD's.

Penny........2248 yards.......23 TD's.

2017 production.

 

[CamanoIslandJQ]

Nobody watched Penney's bowl game against Army. 14 carries for 220+ & 4-TD's. IIRC, Army was at or near the top in rushing last season, meaning their defenders practiced against some pretty good runners. They couldn't stop Penney, and that was the exact game that made me a believer. I'm so happy we got him, seems like a really nice kid too.
:smilingalien:

 

[SanDiego49er]

Nobody watched Penney's bowl game against Army. 14 carries for 220+ & 4-TD's. IIRC, Army was at or near the top in rushing last season, meaning their defenders practiced against some pretty good runners. They couldn't stop Penney, and that was the exact game that made me a believer. I'm so happy we got him, seems like a really nice kid too.
:smilingalien:

He had a big game vs. Army. He had many, many, many other big games too. Funny how that works. He tends to have big games over and over and over. Maybe it's Penny. Just saying......

 

[adeltaY]

Nothing against the dude, but my automatic reaction is to be pissed.

This hotbed of negativity was always going to be pissed no matter what happened. At least we got a productive running back out of it.

Lol whatever dude. We have holes at OL, pass-rusher, and CB to start as well as depth issues at LB. All those positions are more valuable than RB.

Our hole at RB was not smaller than the ones you mentioned.

Absolutely was IMO. RB is a more replaceable position i.e. we coulda grabbed a guy in the later rounds who'd give us comparable production if the line gets solved. I also think it's less important than CB, pass rusher, or OL.

 

[vin.couve12]

Penny is like a cross between David Johnson & Percy Harvin if you mashed the 2 players together.

No, he's not.

Stop bringing up Percy Harvin there is no resemblance at all. Two completely different players that played different positions.

Great pick, considering the Pats may have wanted him, Moving on.

Aren't you the one who brought up Harvin in college? What was it that Harvin played a ton of in college?

 

[vin.couve12]

Such drastically different positions...

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[vin.couve12]

See the same cuts without losing speed. The same gate, same lean, same way the legs piston back?

How in the entire hell do you not see it?