Onside Kick Rules

[CalgaryFan05]

Why is it OK to allow young soldiers to risk their lives in the 20+ combat zones where we are currently (and forever ongoing) engaged, for which the American people (other than the IMIC) derive zero benefit, but it is not OK to let young athletes choose to take health risks for $$$$$$ where the American people derive great benefit?

Should MMA, boxing and other martial sports all be banned?

Enlighten me. I'm not woke enough to understand. Truly, I don't get it. Where does this oppressive maternalism come from?

Totally agree.

And as long as you're putting your why this and not that hat on:

Why do we expect YAC from running backs but not from Wide Receivers that make 2X what running backs make?

Selective logic for the win!!!

 

[MORGULON]

If you have to onside kick to get back in the game, you probably didn't deserve to win. But yeah, the recovery rate is abysmally low.

But it WAS part of the game . A cool part that gave a team a shot to win. That's how Seattle got to SB49 IIRC

 

[NoGain]

But it WAS part of the game . A cool part that gave a team a shot to win. That's how Seattle got to SB49 IIRC

I get that. I'm just not that emotionally invested in this issue for the reasons I mentioned. If it went back the other way, I'd be fine with that, too.

 

[MORGULON]

I don't mind the rule changes that are truly designed for player safety, at least those that could result in injury to the head and neck area, ones that are truly life threatening or life altering, like hitting defenseless receivers, helmet to helmet, that sort of thing.

But what bothers me is the rule changes that were meant to protect the 'star', ie these hideous roughing the passer penalties, ie going low, landing with their body weight on the QB, that sort of thing. Yes, they might blow out a knee, but it's not life threatening. If the defender had an opportunity to pull up and continued, then fine, throw the flag. But some of those calls the defender had absolutely no other option.

They're legislating football out of football.

Next I could see them making a rule that says you can't have more than a 5 yard run before making a tackle or a block.

They've already successfully gotten rid of kickoffs .

 

[Threedee]

NFL = No Fun League.

None of the rule changes have enhanced the entertainment value.

Nearly every rule change has taken out the toughness, excitement, and fun.

I think moving back the PAT is the only good rule change in recent memory.

 

[Threedee]

Concussion payments have cost the NFL over $1bn, for the current generation of players they can not claim that they do not know of the risks so they have to make changes to the game that it can claim it believes will eliminate or at least greatly reduce head injuries, or budget for that cost to grow exponentially year on year.

They have already taken tackling out of the pro bowl. If / when today's generation of players start sueing we can expect tackling to be taken out of all games.

Can they just take the Pro Bowl out of the Pro Bowl?

 

[RiverDog]

They're legislating football out of football.

Next I could see them making a rule that says you can't have more than a 5 yard run before making a tackle or a block.

They've already successfully gotten rid of kickoffs .

I would like to see a study on how many serious injuries occur on kickoffs vs. plays from scrimmage. If there is a substantial increased risk of a life threatening or life altering injury, then I wouldn't mind it.

 

[Fernie Hawks Fan]

They should get rid of tackling and blocking - those are dangerous, too.

Football's going the way of Gen Z's testosterone levels. I wander if there's a connection?

I said to my son the other day about the lining up over center during a field goal or extra point kick penalty, that it won't be long before they (NFL) make it illegal to line up over the center all the time.

 

[Threedee]

How long until two-hand touch to down the QB?

 

[RiverDog]

I said to my son the other day about the lining up over center during a field goal or extra point kick penalty, that it won't be long before they (NFL) make it illegal to line up over the center all the time.

The logic for not lining up on the center during kicks and punts is that the center's head is lowered so he can look between his legs at the punter/holder, which makes him more susceptible to a head/neck injury, which I can buy. But even when the QB is in a shotgun, the center is still looking forward when he snaps the ball, so there should be no need for a rule protecting him as he's no more susceptible to injury than any other lineman.

 

[Fernie Hawks Fan]

The logic for not lining up on the center during kicks and punts is that the center's head is lowered so he can look between his legs at the punter/holder, which makes him more susceptible to a head/neck injury, which I can buy. But even when the QB is in a shotgun, the center is still looking forward when he snaps the ball, so there should be no need for a rule protecting him as he's no more susceptible to injury than any other lineman.

Ya, I understand that Dog, it's just the way they are going with all these rules it wouldn't surprise me.