Cyrus12
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What was the rationale for the change?? Almost impossible to recover one now.
Onside Kick Rules
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NFL = No Fun League.
None of the rule changes have enhanced the entertainment value.
Nearly every rule change has taken out the toughness, excitement, and fun.
RiverDog
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Player safety. They figured that if they don't allow the kickoff team to get a running start, that they will have less momentum when they confront return team players.
Complete nonsense if you ask me.
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Well I dunno where I rea it a couple of years ago - but I read 'somewhere' that the league is trying to eventually get rid of all kicks. Field goals, kickoffs, punts, onside kicks - all of it -
On Sunday I was watching a couple kickoffs and I'm like: "Well, that's essentially been eliminated".
I don't like ANY of it being steered into oblivion. And I'm a proud member of the tinfoil hat club: I think it's to appease the gambling gods and make the odds more predictable without swing plays the change game outcomes unexpectedly.
Edit: went looking and found an idiot who wrote a stupid article about how elimination would be a GOOD thing.
On Sunday I was watching a couple kickoffs and I'm like: "Well, that's essentially been eliminated".
I don't like ANY of it being steered into oblivion. And I'm a proud member of the tinfoil hat club: I think it's to appease the gambling gods and make the odds more predictable without swing plays the change game outcomes unexpectedly.
Edit: went looking and found an idiot who wrote a stupid article about how elimination would be a GOOD thing.
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Yeah, and they've talked about an alternative to an onside kick, like giving the kicking team a 4th and 25 from their own 10 or something. I don't like that idea, either.Well I dunno where I rea it a couple of years ago - but I read 'somewhere' that the league is trying to eventually get rid of all kicks. Field goals, kickoffs, punts, onside kicks - all of it -
On Sunday I was watching a couple kickoffs and I'm like: "Well, that's essentially been eliminated".
I don't like ANY of it being steered into oblivion. And I'm a proud member of the tinfoil hat club: I think it's to appease the gambling gods and make the odds more predictable without swing plays the change game outcomes unexpectedly.
Edit: went looking and found an idiot who wrote a stupid article about how elimination would be a GOOD thing.
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Disagree 100%. If you execute an inside kick then drive down to score you deserve the win. The team that can't stop both those things deserves to lose
Call me a cynic, but what a crock of shyt that the league really cares about the players' health. Short week games, long trips to Europe, absurd training camp rules...it's all about money and perception with them. If quality QB's weren't worth their weight in diamonds, they wouldn't be protecting tham as much as they are now.
Fair enough. But I would argue that if you're in a position where you needed an onside kick to get back in the game, then you were down two scores without your needed timeouts and desperately trying to pull out an improbable victory. That's usually what it boils down to. You were getting beat, and probably deservingly losing the game.
Just MO.
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They should get rid of tackling and blocking - those are dangerous, too.Well I dunno where I rea it a couple of years ago - but I read 'somewhere' that the league is trying to eventually get rid of all kicks. Field goals, kickoffs, punts, onside kicks - all of it -
On Sunday I was watching a couple kickoffs and I'm like: "Well, that's essentially been eliminated".
I don't like ANY of it being steered into oblivion. And I'm a proud member of the tinfoil hat club: I think it's to appease the gambling gods and make the odds more predictable without swing plays the change game outcomes unexpectedly.
Edit: went looking and found an idiot who wrote a stupid article about how elimination would be a GOOD thing.
Football's going the way of Gen Z's testosterone levels. I wander if there's a connection?
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I think there's been a couple games where we've gotten rid of tackling already! So, we're ahead of the curve.
Yea, the pussification of all sports is just, well.... sad....
Why is it OK to allow young soldiers to risk their lives in the 20+ combat zones where we are currently (and forever ongoing) engaged, for which the American people (other than the IMIC) derive zero benefit, but it is not OK to let young athletes choose to take health risks for $$$$$$ where the American people derive great benefit?
Should MMA, boxing and other martial sports all be banned?
Enlighten me. I'm not woke enough to understand. Truly, I don't get it. Where does this oppressive maternalism come from?
Should MMA, boxing and other martial sports all be banned?
Enlighten me. I'm not woke enough to understand. Truly, I don't get it. Where does this oppressive maternalism come from?
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It's the endocrine disruptors in our food, water, and clothing dropping testosterone levels and shrinking dingalings.
Concussion payments have cost the NFL over $1bn, for the current generation of players they can not claim that they do not know of the risks so they have to make changes to the game that it can claim it believes will eliminate or at least greatly reduce head injuries, or budget for that cost to grow exponentially year on year.
They have already taken tackling out of the pro bowl. If / when today's generation of players start sueing we can expect tackling to be taken out of all games.
They have already taken tackling out of the pro bowl. If / when today's generation of players start sueing we can expect tackling to be taken out of all games.
I've seen that as one of the most likely explanations, along with flushed birth control pills contaminating the water supply resulting in a bunch of estrogen filled young men.
Maybe an explanation for some of our current "cultural crises"?
Makes sense. Excessive litigiousness combined with a broken jury system has caused a lot of idiotic breakage in other areas, too.
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I totally get the intent of this new rule. But I watch wayyyyy more football than a normal human should and I just never saw all these cataclysmic injuries that could have inspired such drastic change. for me, there were very few plays more exciting than the onside kick. They keep watering the game down more and more and more and more they keep charging us more for tix, hotdogs and beer.
But we'll never stop watching and that make's us the real problem.
But we'll never stop watching and that make's us the real problem.
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I don't mind the rule changes that are truly designed for player safety, at least those that could result in injury to the head and neck area, ones that are truly life threatening or life altering, like hitting defenseless receivers, helmet to helmet, that sort of thing.
But what bothers me is the rule changes that were meant to protect the 'star', ie these hideous roughing the passer penalties, ie going low, landing with their body weight on the QB, that sort of thing. Yes, they might blow out a knee, but it's not life threatening. If the defender had an opportunity to pull up and continued, then fine, throw the flag. But some of those calls the defender had absolutely no other option.
But what bothers me is the rule changes that were meant to protect the 'star', ie these hideous roughing the passer penalties, ie going low, landing with their body weight on the QB, that sort of thing. Yes, they might blow out a knee, but it's not life threatening. If the defender had an opportunity to pull up and continued, then fine, throw the flag. But some of those calls the defender had absolutely no other option.
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