Niners vs Cowboys

[Largent80]

Me...typical Hawks fan....Dallas SUCKS.

Holy ( crap ) Niners need to send Chokemo a dozen roses for being so thoughtful.

 

[Marvin49]

Of course you would. Lol.

I know what 'hawk fans are gonna say. Gave up run yards, offense did nothing in second half, Dallas sucked.

They gave up run yards because the were playing with a light box most of the game. They have been able to get away with that in the past with Aldon and Bowman, but clearly that's not gonna work like it has.

Second half was just about killing the clock. Also some really, really bad calls extending Dallas. 7 minute drive and killing Niner drive in scoring position, not to mention a missed chip shot FG by a pro bowl kicker. Really not concerned.

Dallas does suck tho. Niners beat a team they were supposed to beat. Moving on to week 2.

Honestly my biggest concerns are injuries at CB. I know both Marshall and Jeffries were hurt for the Bears today. If be curios to see if we get backup WRs vs backup DBs this Sunday.

Dallas would have had a close game i they had any QB other than Romo. That guy needs to be cut. Dallas played better than I expect and the 49'ers play worse than I expected. DeMarco Murray was running all over the 49ers defense. If Romo had the basic sense to run the ball some more and not throw into double or triple coverage (or to some imaginary friend 20 feet behind a cowboy player) it would had been a different game.

Really got nothing out of this other than how much more often "the worst defense in the league" still managed to stop the 49ers offense than I thought they would have.

...and that's pretty much what I would expect a Seahawks fan to take away from the game.

Niners essentially end the game in the first quarter and the takeaway from you is "Niners should have been better".

Sigh. And so it goes.

...and that's pretty much what I would expect a 49'ers fan to take away from my post.

Seahawk fan trashing on niners for no reason.


Niners has been a top defense for awhile now. That game was not representative of a top defense. Not to mention playing against likely the worst or a bottom 5 defense and getting stopped repeatedly.

Its just facts man... even if you don't like em. Take off your homer glasses.

Well of course its not the same defense. LOL.

Missing 2 of their best players on defense and lost both starting corners in the first quarter. Niner focused on stopping Bryant and Witten who combined for 12 yards. Niners won't be as good on D early. They just need to be good en ough till the big guns come back.

As for the stops.....man. That's just sad. It was 21-3 in the firs quarter and Niners were milking the clock. Yeah...they got "stopped". LOL.

Niners were up 28-3 at the half. Only a 'hawk homer would look at that second half as anything other than the Niners just trying to end the game healthy. LOL. There was a drive the Niners had that was nothing but handoff to Gore, handoff to Hyde, handoff to Gore, handoff to Hyde, etc. That drive ended in a missed FG.

Niner O is just fine.

 

[Melencause]

Well of course its not the same defense. LOL.

Missing 2 of their best players on defense and lost both starting corners in the first quarter. Niner focused on stopping Bryant and Witten who combined for 12 yards. Niners won't be as good on D early. They just need to be good en ough till the big guns come back.

As for the stops.....man. That's just sad. It was 21-3 in the firs quarter and Niners were milking the clock. Yeah...they got "stopped". LOL.

Niners were up 28-3 at the half. Only a 'hawk homer would look at that second half as anything other than the Niners just trying to end the game healthy. LOL. There was a drive the Niners had that was nothing but handoff to Gore, handoff to Hyde, handoff to Gore, handoff to Hyde, etc. That drive ended in a missed FG.

Niner O is just fine.

How can you say they were milking the clock in the first quarter. You were irrational before and now you are borderline frothy.
Thanks for admitting the defense didn't look as good though(which is what I said).

This is not a stat you want to see on your star running back against a TERRIBLE defensive front
16 attempts 66yards 4.1 YPA
Please spin your way out of that.
Carlos Hyde performed ALOT better However; 7 attempts doesn't really show much.

Boldin did alright but there was nothing spectacular about your receivers especially considering they were up against a terrible secondary that rated a -8 PFF grade.

Its like if you put up Mike Tyson in the ring with a featherweight and extolled his glory for winning...just asinine homerism.

The MVP for the niners was definitely Tony Romo.

Not much to take away from a game against the cowboys. I'm sure the 49ers will be good/better but there was nothing saying so in that game.


Also, LOL

 

[AbsolutNET]

I fully expect the 9ers to win about 12 games this year, they're still a good team. That said, Romo was absolutely color-blind yesterday. I still think SF would have won, it just wouldn't have been a total blowout in the first half if Romo doesn't gift wrap a few possessions.

 

[Marvin49]

Well of course its not the same defense. LOL.

Missing 2 of their best players on defense and lost both starting corners in the first quarter. Niner focused on stopping Bryant and Witten who combined for 12 yards. Niners won't be as good on D early. They just need to be good en ough till the big guns come back.

As for the stops.....man. That's just sad. It was 21-3 in the firs quarter and Niners were milking the clock. Yeah...they got "stopped". LOL.

Niners were up 28-3 at the half. Only a 'hawk homer would look at that second half as anything other than the Niners just trying to end the game healthy. LOL. There was a drive the Niners had that was nothing but handoff to Gore, handoff to Hyde, handoff to Gore, handoff to Hyde, etc. That drive ended in a missed FG.

Niner O is just fine.

How can you say they were milking the clock in the first quarter. You were irrational before and now you are borderline frothy.
Thanks for admitting the defense didn't look as good though(which is what I said).

This is not a stat you want to see on your star running back against a TERRIBLE defensive front
16 attempts 66yards 4.1 YPA
Please spin your way out of that.
Carlos Hyde performed ALOT better However; 7 attempts doesn't really show much.

Boldin did alright but there was nothing spectacular about your receivers especially considering they were up against a terrible secondary that rated a -8 PFF grade.

Its like if you put up Mike Tyson in the ring with a featherweight and extolled his glory for winning...just asinine homerism.

The MVP for the niners was definitely Tony Romo.

Not much to take away from a game against the cowboys. I'm sure the 49ers will be good/better but there was nothing saying so in that game.


Also, LOL

OMG. You can't be serious can you? I'M the homer for not being concerned about my team after what was a blowout until late garbage time TDs? I should be worried because they didn't blow out an NFL team by more points?

Seriously? I'M the homer!?! LOL. OK Chief. Right.

Moving on.

 

[Sports Hernia]

Well of course its not the same defense. LOL.

Missing 2 of their best players on defense and lost both starting corners in the first quarter. Niner focused on stopping Bryant and Witten who combined for 12 yards. Niners won't be as good on D early. They just need to be good en ough till the big guns come back.

As for the stops.....man. That's just sad. It was 21-3 in the firs quarter and Niners were milking the clock. Yeah...they got "stopped". LOL.

Niners were up 28-3 at the half. Only a 'hawk homer would look at that second half as anything other than the Niners just trying to end the game healthy. LOL. There was a drive the Niners had that was nothing but handoff to Gore, handoff to Hyde, handoff to Gore, handoff to Hyde, etc. That drive ended in a missed FG.

Niner O is just fine.

How can you say they were milking the clock in the first quarter. You were irrational before and now you are borderline frothy.
Thanks for admitting the defense didn't look as good though(which is what I said).

This is not a stat you want to see on your star running back against a TERRIBLE defensive front
16 attempts 66yards 4.1 YPA
Please spin your way out of that.
Carlos Hyde performed ALOT better However; 7 attempts doesn't really show much.

Boldin did alright but there was nothing spectacular about your receivers especially considering they were up against a terrible secondary that rated a -8 PFF grade.

Its like if you put up Mike Tyson in the ring with a featherweight and extolled his glory for winning...just asinine homerism.

The MVP for the niners was definitely Tony Romo.

Not much to take away from a game against the cowboys. I'm sure the 49ers will be good/better but there was nothing saying so in that game.


Also, LOL

OMG. You can't be serious can you? I'M the homer for not being concerned about my team after what was a blowout until late garbage time TDs? I should be worried because they didn't blow out an NFL team by more points?

Seriously? I'M the homer!?! LOL. OK Chief. Right.

Moving on.

Yes Marv, you are a HUGE homer! Sorry to burst your bubble!

 

[Melencause]

OMG. You can't be serious can you? I'M the homer for not being concerned about my team after what was a blowout until late garbage time TDs? I should be worried because they didn't blow out an NFL team by more points?

Seriously? I'M the homer!?! LOL. OK Chief. Right.

Moving on.

Who said concerned? I just didn't see anything that indicated greatness. Which is what it takes to win in the NFL?

Also, yes you are a homer.. Your post history supports this.
If you thought your offense was looking good based on the Cowboy game, you are either a homer, lying to yourself, or clueless. You have yet to support your case... the outrage doesn't provide evidence... find some please.

 

[Popeyejones]

Thoughts on this game:

GOOD THINGS:

*Kaepernick played very, very well. He passed the eye test, and also was graded out very highly according to all the different metrics (rating, QBR, and PFF). Nice job getting to his second and third reads, looks comfortable climbing the pocket and hanging in, was on-point on his pre-snap reads throughout the entire game, really only missed on two passes (one was a very tight window on the sideline and he made the right throw by risking throwing too far outside away from the second level defender), and protected himself while running (liked seeing him help up a Boys player who tackled him too, which is pretty rare, especially for a QB).

*Very good day for Reid and Bethea. Reid missed one tackle by taking a bad angle along the sideline, but substance>style, and I think I prefer these two to the 9ers Pro-Bowlers of two years ago (Goldson and Whitner).

* Love putting Johnson/Lloyd outside and Q in the slot in three wide formations. It's a different take on the slot receiver, and really fits the personality of this team. Crabs can play that role too.

*Great play in coverage and run support by Dontae Johnson. The 9ers were down to two healthy CBs (all three of their top CBs out) at one point in this game, and they still stopped the passing attack.

*Carlos Hyde. My buddy said that at this point he looks like Frank Gore in fast forward. That's about right. It won't get talked about, but Hyde's performance in pass blocking was the most inspiring part of his day for me.

BAD THINGS:

*The O-line really struggled. Oddly, Kilgore probably had the best day. Just a bad day for Staley, Iupati is still struggling (at this rate the rest of the league may catch on to what the 9ers already know; he's not a top guard in the league), and Looney and Martin were mediocre. The whole right side of the line should be back next week (Boone and Davis) so not too worried here, but worth noting.

* Ian Williams was getting double-teamed all game and wasn't holding the point of attack up the middle. He's still working his way back, and it might take some time. Healthy he's better at holding the LOS than Dorsey, but he'll have to build back into shape.

*Patrick Willis' return to the "Mike" role was less than inspiring. He got washed out of a lot of plays. Great day in coverage for him, but not too good in the run game.

*Wilhoite got washed out a lot. The 9ers might struggle up the middle for at least the next month.

*Very mediocre day by Lemonier and Brooks. Lynch had a great game (key pressures, a bat down) and Skuta had the nice strip, but the 9ers LB corp was the weakness of the defense yesterday, not the d-line.

*LMJ doesn't have a role on this team. My guess is he might be gone if/when Lattimore comes back.

*The officiating. Really glad this game was out of reach by halftime. The Dahl penalty (a shove at around five yards) I can live with (that it happened on 3rd and 20 is a little ugghhh), but the phantom calls on Ward, Stevie Johnson, and Looney -- all to continue or end drives were just very unfortunate. I'm expecting the random chance of crap calls to even out across the season, so hopefully the 9ers "banked" some crap calls in their favor.

*Pass rush was non-existent too many times. The 9ers were only rushing three or four through most of the game and picking of Romo when he made desperation throws >5 seconds after the snap, but over time there are going to be more coverage breakdowns than there were today.

*9ers fans complaining about the team playing to win under Harbaugh rather than playing college ball and trying to blow the doors off. 9ers fans need to accept who this team is. They pulled back, just as the Broncos and Steelers did after going up huge in the first half, the only difference being that unlike these other teams, despite pulling back, the 9ers win was never really in question. Officiating roulette played a big role on this in the second half too, but again, it's stupid to complain about 1) when it happens in a game that wasn't in question, and 2) ever, because it usually evens out over time.

*9ers fans and others saying that you can't take anything away from this game because it was against the Cowboys. When did everyone become Cowboys fans and decide that being mediocre equals being the worst team in the league? The Boys will likely be about 8-8 again this year. I definitely don't see them falling below 6-10 although 7-9 is pretty likely. Over the course of the season there will be games that are MUCH worse than always being in control against a middle-of-the-pack squad.

 

[Marvin49]

OMG. You can't be serious can you? I'M the homer for not being concerned about my team after what was a blowout until late garbage time TDs? I should be worried because they didn't blow out an NFL team by more points?

Seriously? I'M the homer!?! LOL. OK Chief. Right.

Moving on.

Who said concerned? I just didn't see anything that indicated greatness. Which is what it takes to win in the NFL?

Also, yes you are a homer.. Your post history supports this.
If you thought your offense was looking good based on the Cowboy game, you are either a homer, lying to yourself, or clueless. You have yet to support your case... the outrage doesn't provide evidence... find some please.

Support what?

28-3 at halftime.

Done.

I'm not the one trying to make a case that a team up by 25 points isn't playing good enough on offense as tho the score doesn't dictate how they play. That would be you.

Niners beat a team they were supposed to beat and did it handily. Period.

 

[loafoftatupu]

Talking about that last game is really no different than talking about a preseason game. There are no style points in football and to me there was nothing to be learned from whatever that game was.

The Niners took care of business as they should have. The Cowboys gave them every opportunity to make it easy on the Niners, what was SF supposed to do? Play like they were behind? SC didn't need to risk anything, so why would they? We have seen the Hawks take advantage of similar situations, where the offense didn't have to score much or put themselves in a situation where they give the opponent a chance to win.

I look at the NYG last year. Sort of the same thing. Dallas never stood a chance in that game, the Niners did what they needed to burn clock and not give them a chance. K-Choke could work on his game from the pocket and he did. My FF team is having a great week because of Davis and Quan, so I am good with that.

 

[Melencause]

OMG. You can't be serious can you? I'M the homer for not being concerned about my team after what was a blowout until late garbage time TDs? I should be worried because they didn't blow out an NFL team by more points?

Seriously? I'M the homer!?! LOL. OK Chief. Right.

Moving on.

Who said concerned? I just didn't see anything that indicated greatness. Which is what it takes to win in the NFL?

Also, yes you are a homer.. Your post history supports this.
If you thought your offense was looking good based on the Cowboy game, you are either a homer, lying to yourself, or clueless. You have yet to support your case... the outrage doesn't provide evidence... find some please.

Support what?

28-3 at halftime.

Done.

I'm not the one trying to make a case that a team up by 25 points isn't playing good enough on offense as tho the score doesn't dictate how they play. That would be you.

Niners beat a team they were supposed to beat and did it handily. Period.

LOL symptoms of homerism.

1. Refusal to see logic
2. Denial of facts
3. Repetitive behaviors bordering on mantra and religious chants.
4. Inability to support a position with analysis.

How many of those points were the result of a 49'ers offensive drive vs interceptions/fumbles? Look at time of possession for a clue.

You are embarrassing yourself.


This is the comment you thought was homeristic.

Really got nothing out of this other than how much more often "the worst defense in the league" still managed to stop the 49ers offense than I thought they would have.

Fact the Cowboys stopped the 49'ers on numerous drives. Which is also more than I expected from them, mixed with less than I expected from the 49ers.

You obviously come to this board for a reason, to troll or make homerist comments. It's fine.. embrace who you are.. just don't deny it. You are pretty transparent.

 

[Marvin49]

OMG. You can't be serious can you? I'M the homer for not being concerned about my team after what was a blowout until late garbage time TDs? I should be worried because they didn't blow out an NFL team by more points?

Seriously? I'M the homer!?! LOL. OK Chief. Right.

Moving on.

Who said concerned? I just didn't see anything that indicated greatness. Which is what it takes to win in the NFL?

Also, yes you are a homer.. Your post history supports this.
If you thought your offense was looking good based on the Cowboy game, you are either a homer, lying to yourself, or clueless. You have yet to support your case... the outrage doesn't provide evidence... find some please.

Support what?

28-3 at halftime.

Done.

I'm not the one trying to make a case that a team up by 25 points isn't playing good enough on offense as tho the score doesn't dictate how they play. That would be you.

Niners beat a team they were supposed to beat and did it handily. Period.

LOL symptoms of homerism.

1. Refusal to see logic
2. Denial of facts
3. Repetitive behaviors bordering on mantra and religious chants.
4. Inability to support a position with analysis.

How many of those points were the result of a 49'ers offensive drive vs interceptions/fumbles? Look at time of possession for a clue.

You are embarrassing yourself.


This is the comment you thought was homeristic.

Really got nothing out of this other than how much more often "the worst defense in the league" still managed to stop the 49ers offense than I thought they would have.

Fact the Cowboys stopped the 49'ers on numerous drives. Which is also more than I expected from them, mixed with less than I expected from the 49ers.

You obviously come to this board for a reason, to troll or make homerist comments. It's fine.. embrace who you are.. just don't deny it. You are pretty transparent.

Are you seriously going to use time of possession? Really?

Niners scored 1st TD on defense. They scored second TD on 80 yard 3 play drive. They scored 3rd TD on one play drive.

They were up 21-3 after having run 4 plays. Time of possession? Really?

They then had a drive where they were moving but got stalled by a sack and two holding calls so they punted.

4th possession was a TD just before the half.

4 possessions, 3 TDs.

I know, they suck.

Stop reading the stat sheet and watch the damn game.

After the half they didn't convert because of a dropped pass by Vernon, had another drive stall because if the refs, and had another where they drove down the field without a single pass and missed the field goal.

Dude. Watch the game.

 

[Laloosh]

I watched the game, Marv. You guys need some of those starters back to hang with a good team. Hyde looks great btw.

 

[bigtrain21]

Wow! A one play drive Marvin!? How many yards?

 

[loafoftatupu]

Seriously? I'M the homer!?! LOL. OK Chief. Right.

Well... it might be in a different context, but yeah Marv, it's true.

 

[lvnginhwktwn]

Talking about that last game is really no different than talking about a preseason game. There are no style points in football and to me there was nothing to be learned from whatever that game was.

The Niners took care of business as they should have. The Cowboys gave them every opportunity to make it easy on the Niners, what was SF supposed to do? Play like they were behind? SC didn't need to risk anything, so why would they? We have seen the Hawks take advantage of similar situations, where the offense didn't have to score much or put themselves in a situation where they give the opponent a chance to win.

I look at the NYG last year. Sort of the same thing. Dallas never stood a chance in that game, the Niners did what they needed to burn clock and not give them a chance. K-Choke could work on his game from the pocket and he did. My FF team is having a great week because of Davis and Quan, so I am good with that.

This pretty much sums up my opinion about yesterday's game. I liked some of what I saw, but at the same time I see lots of areas that need much improvement. A wins a win and I'll take it.

 

[bigtrain21]

Talking about that last game is really no different than talking about a preseason game. There are no style points in football and to me there was nothing to be learned from whatever that game was.

The Niners took care of business as they should have. The Cowboys gave them every opportunity to make it easy on the Niners, what was SF supposed to do? Play like they were behind? SC didn't need to risk anything, so why would they? We have seen the Hawks take advantage of similar situations, where the offense didn't have to score much or put themselves in a situation where they give the opponent a chance to win.

I look at the NYG last year. Sort of the same thing. Dallas never stood a chance in that game, the Niners did what they needed to burn clock and not give them a chance. K-Choke could work on his game from the pocket and he did. My FF team is having a great week because of Davis and Quan, so I am good with that.

This pretty much sums up my opinion about yesterday's game. I liked some of what I saw, but at the same time I see lots of areas that need much improvement. A wins a win and I'll take it.

You guys definitely took care of business so congrats on the win.

I can't believe how inept the cowboys are. Romo had his first read wide open on the willis interception. He stared right at him wide open, rolled out to his right, and threw it right to Willis.

 

[Marvin49]

I watched the game, Marv. You guys need some of those starters back to hang with a good team. Hyde looks great btw.

THAT I agree with. Need the right side of the line back. Need corners back. Tough to play a light box with a back as good as Murray without Navorro or Aldon.

They are gonna have to get by early until the horses come back.

My issue in this thread is the perception that the Niners O "struggled" against the Cowboys horrific D. They didn't. They moved the ball in the first half almost at will. The third drive stalled after 2 holding calls and a sack but even on THAT drive they were moving the ball. They scored a TD on every other first half possession.

In the second half they were just trying to get out of the building with their foot off the gas.

Quoting time if possession to me is ludicrous when the Cowboys probably had the ball over 12 minutes in the first QUARTER and were down by 18.

 

[Marvin49]

Wow! A one play drive Marvin!? How many yards?

1 or 2.

Who cares? The point was that one play drives don't last too long so don't quote time of possession to me.

 

[lvnginhwktwn]

Talking about that last game is really no different than talking about a preseason game. There are no style points in football and to me there was nothing to be learned from whatever that game was.

The Niners took care of business as they should have. The Cowboys gave them every opportunity to make it easy on the Niners, what was SF supposed to do? Play like they were behind? SC didn't need to risk anything, so why would they? We have seen the Hawks take advantage of similar situations, where the offense didn't have to score much or put themselves in a situation where they give the opponent a chance to win.

I look at the NYG last year. Sort of the same thing. Dallas never stood a chance in that game, the Niners did what they needed to burn clock and not give them a chance. K-Choke could work on his game from the pocket and he did. My FF team is having a great week because of Davis and Quan, so I am good with that.

This pretty much sums up my opinion about yesterday's game. I liked some of what I saw, but at the same time I see lots of areas that need much improvement. A wins a win and I'll take it.

You guys definitely took care of business so congrats on the win.

I can't believe how inept the cowboys are. Romo had his first read wide open on the willis interception. He stared right at him wide open, rolled out to his right, and threw it right to Willis.

As long as Jerry continues to try and manage the team and Romo is the QB the Cowboys will remain irrelevant. If having 50% of your stadiums seats filled with opposing fans doesn't send a clear message then nothing will. Like I said when Romo got his new contract "6 more years of Romo jokes".