NFL considering WC team with better record to host

[Axx]

to this i say bah humbug because it pretty much negates the importance of winning the division.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200000 ... -by-record

 

[Trrrroy]

Boo.

 

[dontbelikethat]

Bad idea.

 

[Polaris]

to this i say bah humbug because it pretty much negates the importance of winning the division.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200000 ... -by-record

It's not gonna happen. What we have here are a bunch of butt-hurt Niner and Saints fans that are upset that their team has to travel because they didn't win their division.

BOO-HOO

Seattle had to travel TWICE, cross country, at 10am starts and the first one was against a team with an inferior record. It happens just about every year. We didn't whine and moan. We realized that meant we had to be sure of winning the division next year.

Divisional strengths wax and wane. If the rules didn't get changed after an 11-5 defending SB champ Saints team had to go to a 7-9 Seattle team (and lost!), then it won't be changed now.

The Niners had their chance with home field for two straight years and didn't get it done. Now they get the joys of being a wildcard.

 

[Scottemojo]

to this i say bah humbug because it pretty much negates the importance of winning the division.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200000 ... -by-record

It's not gonna happen. What we have here are a bunch of butt-hurt Niner and Saints fans that are upset that their team has to travel because they didn't win their division.

BOO-HOO

Seattle had to travel TWICE, cross country, at 10am starts and the first one was against a team with an inferior record. It happens just about every year. We didn't whine and moan. We realized that meant we had to be sure of winning the division next year.

Divisional strengths wax and wane. If the rules didn't get changed after an 11-5 defending SB champ Saints team had to go to a 7-9 Seattle team (and lost!), then it won't be changed now.

The Niners had their chance with home field for two straight years and didn't get it done. Now they get the joys of being a wildcard.

Perfect.

I would add that in the long run, it all breaks even. We hosted the Saints in 2010, we went on the road with a better record than the Racist skins in the 2012 season. I know its big picture thinking, which isn't popular now, but it all breaks even eventually.

When the Patriots went 16-0, they had the easiest schedule in NFL history. What does that have to do with anything? IDK. I said ot fro no reason. I just like to end statements with something profound.

 

[VivaEfrenHerrera]

...If the rules didn't get changed after an 11-5 defending SB champ Saints team had to go to a 7-9 Seattle team (and lost!), then it won't be changed now.

I was pleasantly surprised that they didn't change the rules after that, to be honest, especially given the teams that won and lost. The idea was talked about then, and I hope you're right and they come to the same conclusion again this time through.

 

[MizzouHawkGal]

to this i say bah humbug because it pretty much negates the importance of winning the division.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200000 ... -by-record

Good because the fact you're in a crap division and STILL go 9-7 or worse should never give you such an advantage. Basically they should lock in the top 3 division winners and reseed the 4th if their record is worse than the 5-6 seeds. Then again I am in the minority and a contrarian concerning this topic and proud of it.

 

[Polaris]

to this i say bah humbug because it pretty much negates the importance of winning the division.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200000 ... -by-record

Good because the fact you're in a crap division and STILL go 9-7 or worse should never give you such an advantage. Basically they should lock in the top 3 division winners and reseed the 4th if their record is worse than the 5-6 seeds.

I disagree. Consider Seattle's situation this year had such a rule been in effect. Once Seattle got it's 12th win, then it would have been guaranteed the #3 seed (not the #5 seed) making winning the division nearly meaningless. It also would have not helped the Cardinals one iota so people still would have been displeased.

If you want a home game, win your division. Otherwise do away with divisions.

 

[VivaEfrenHerrera]

...When the Patriots went 16-0, they had the easiest schedule in NFL history....

They basically had 6 byes in the division -- Jets were 4-12, Bills went 7-9 and Dolphins were a ghastly 1-15.

 

[Polaris]

...When the Patriots went 16-0, they had the easiest schedule in NFL history....

They basically had 6 byes in the division -- Jets were 4-12, Bills went 7-9 and Dolphins were a ghastly 1-15.

And when the Niners had their run of superbowls, they also benefited from a ridiculously easy division, but no one complains about that now.

Like I said, I smell some whiners from the San Fran and New Orleans zip codes.

 

[VivaEfrenHerrera]

If you want a home game, win your division. Otherwise do away with divisions.

Agreed. No fanbase should have to handle Niners supporters twice a season without something worthwhile on the line. Otherwise it's just torture for the sake of torture.

 

[MontanaHawk05]

If mankind applied the same creativity to cancer research that they do to trying to wreck the NFL playoffs, we'd have cured cancer by now.

 

[MizzouHawkGal]

to this i say bah humbug because it pretty much negates the importance of winning the division.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200000 ... -by-record

Good because the fact you're in a crap division and STILL go 9-7 or worse should never give you such an advantage. Basically they should lock in the top 3 division winners and reseed the 4th if their record is worse than the 5-6 seeds.

I disagree. Consider Seattle's situation this year had such a rule been in effect. Once Seattle got it's 12th win, then it would have been guaranteed the #3 seed (not the #5 seed) making winning the division nearly meaningless. It also would have not helped the Cardinals one iota so people still would have been displeased.

If you want a home game, win your division. Otherwise do away with divisions.

As a 1/2 seed you get a home game and a bye try again. As a 1/2/3 seed you get a home game. Only crap 4 seeds are at risk in a partial reseeding scheme.

 

[Polaris]

to this i say bah humbug because it pretty much negates the importance of winning the division.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200000 ... -by-record

Good because the fact you're in a crap division and STILL go 9-7 or worse should never give you such an advantage. Basically they should lock in the top 3 division winners and reseed the 4th if their record is worse than the 5-6 seeds.

I disagree. Consider Seattle's situation this year had such a rule been in effect. Once Seattle got it's 12th win, then it would have been guaranteed the #3 seed (not the #5 seed) making winning the division nearly meaningless. It also would have not helped the Cardinals one iota so people still would have been displeased.

If you want a home game, win your division. Otherwise do away with divisions.

As a 1/2 seed you get a home game and a bye try again. As a 1/2/3 seed you get a home game. Only crap 4 seeds are at risk in a partial reseeding scheme.

Where do you draw the line? There have been many cases where all four division winners were 10-6 or better, and just this year you could have easily had (if the Cowboys had won for example) where you would have two division winners with 9 wins or less.

The system works and works well.

 

[The Outfield]

So stupid. STOP TRYING TO FIX WHAT ISN'T BROKEN!!!

 

[HawkFan72]

Lame. If you win the division, you deserve a home game.

2nd place teams don't deserve a home game in the first round.

 

[themunn]

...When the Patriots went 16-0, they had the easiest schedule in NFL history....

They basically had 6 byes in the division -- Jets were 4-12, Bills went 7-9 and Dolphins were a ghastly 1-15.

It was anything BUT the easiest schedule in history. They still faced an overall schedule of over 0.500, and tougher than ANY playoff team this year faced.

And that's because they faced the 11-5 Chargers, 7-9 Bengals, 10-6 Browns, 13-3 Cowboys, 9-7 Redskins, 13-3 Colts, 8-8 Eagles, 10-6 Steelers and 9-7 Giants. And they beat every one of them.

Yes they had an easy division (although I'd never count a 7-9 divisional rival as "easy" even if it IS the Bills, we know exactly how tough playing the Rams can be), but the only other team they faced with a losing record was the Ravens (5-11). We had a tough schedule this year, but also had games against the 2-14 Texans, 4-12 Jags, 4-12 Bucs and 4-12 Falcons (as did every other NFC West and South team, so we all had the same advantage).

 

[main]

Man, there were a ton of butt hurt 49er fans commenting below. That was a lot of whining.

 

[el capitan]

If you want a home game, win your division. Otherwise do away with divisions.

Winning your division gets you into the playoffs, Green Bay aren't in on record, why should it also get you an easier ride to the next round. Seeding teams this way makes the whole point of seeding irrelevant. Case in point, we're the no.1 seed yet the only way we get an easier tie than Carolina is if either both home teams win or both road teams win. We could be facing the 12 win 49ers whilst the Panthers host an Eagles team that only won 10 games. So not only would the Eagles get a home game against a superior Saints team they then would avoid playing at the no.1 seed even though they're the worst team left in playoffs.

 

[Pandion Haliaetus]

Answer is very simple.

8 teams in the Post-Season.

All teams get a bye after the Regular Season.

4 Div. Champs + the 4 next best records make up the teams.

HFA is rewarded to the 4 best overall records in the 1st round, the 2 best remaining records in the 2nd round, and then the best record between the last 2 teams.

#8 CHI(8-8) @ #1 SEA (13-3)

#7 GB (8-7-1) @ #2 CAR (12-4)

#6 ARI (10-6) @ #3 SFO (12-4)

#5 PHI (10-6) @ #NO (11-5)

Makes it more interesting as well and would allow a whole division to possibly make it. For instance if the Rams had beaten Dallas, they would be the 8th seed in this scenario. That's how good the NFC West was this year.