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I'm not entirely disgusted and depressed as I usually am after a loss. Some thing's happened which don't usually, if ever. Bad calls and blown plays. Plus that's a good team, that had to earn everything.

I am concerned about two things;

BFS has called me a "Sidney" hater in a few threads. Which, while I'm not a hater, I never liked the signing. I just don't trust his effort every play, game or even a season. I don't trust him to be a "#1". He needs to step up a bit. He needs to be the guy to open things up a bit more. He just does. Maybe he's giving full effort, or maybe not, I don't know. But as a #1 he needs to open things up a bit more. And, not going back to the ball on the last pass was pretty inexcusable. Cable looked like he wanted to deck him, and I did too.

Second gripe; the last drive play-calling. I'm a little surprised after Russell scrambles for some large yardage, with a RB next to him, Bevell goes 4 straight plays out of read option. In fact, I don't think the Seahawks should ever go no back, really. Wilson's a threat to run, add two threats to run. Plus, the passing lanes we're mighty large off of shotgun with a RB next to Wilson. It just feels like there's a lot of cuteness for the sake of cuteness, offensively. Just like the loss in Stl last year, this is frustrating because they seeming ran the ball at will, yet they lose. I know its sound simple, but thats only because it is; if you lose while rushing THAT well ITS playcalling.

Please save the "but we're 4-1, quit whining". I'm here to talk football. Yes, I'm content with things, but these are concerns.
 

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pehawk":613ycren said:
I'm not entirely disgusted and depressed as I usually am after a loss. Something's happened which don't usually, if ever occur, calls and blown plays. Plus that's a good team, that had to earn everything.

What I am concerned about two things however;

BFS has called me a "Sidney" hater in a few threads. Which, while I'm not a hater, I never liked the signing. I just don't trust his effort every play, game or even a season. I don't trust him to be a "#1". He needs to step up a bit. He needs to be the guy to open things up a bit more. He just does. Maybe he's giving full effort, or maybe not, I don't know. But as a #1 he needs to open things up a bit more. And, not going back to the ball on the last pass was pretty inexcusable. Cable looked like he wanted to deck him, and I did too.

Second gripe; the last drive play-calling. I'm a little surprised after Russell scrambles for some large yardage, with a RB next to him, Bevell goes 4 straight plays out of read option. In fact, I don't think the Seahawks should ever go no back, really. Wilson's a threat to run, add two threats to run. Plus, the passing lanes we're mighty large off of shotgun with a RB next to Wilson. It just feels like there's a lot of cuteness for the sake of cuteness, offensively. Just like the loss in Stl last year, this is frustrating because they seeming ran the ball at will, yet they lose. I know its sound simple, but thats only because it is; if you lose while rushing THAT well ITS playcalling.

Please save the "but we're 4-1, quit whining". I'm here to talk football. Yes, I'm content with things, but these are concerns.

So your concerned with Bevell's ability to play call, good so am I , have been for a few years now.
 
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You shouldn't lose games when you run the ball like that, period. And why they go empty backfield on 3rd down's is confusing.
 
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Three gripes; as much as he helped on those screens, Willson looks lost at times. It really hurts. Between Sweezy and him it's certainty 5 plays are blown a game.
 

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I have to admit, Sidney Rice is drifting into the "Ruskell category": Hard to fault, but also hard to defend. The last time I defended players in that category, they got replaced by Richard Sherman and Chris Clemons. Maybe we can do better.
 
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MontanaHawk05":1eacytce said:
I have to admit, Sidney Rice is drifting into the "Ruskell category": Hard to fault, but also hard to defend. The last time I defended players in that category, they got replaced by Richard Sherman and Chris Clemons. Maybe we can do better.

So, I'll admit I am a Sidney doubter. He did something in Minny that permanently ruined my image of him. And, I don't know enough to say he's dogging it or anything. But, dude pouted a lot last year in the beginning. And, he just seems to be the type you cant depend on every game. I think he's good, but a #1 needs to bring it every game.
 

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They also ran Lynch like five times after the half. Wtf? The strategy that was working was abandoned. Also Rice. I agree, it looks like he doesn't try hard enough. I love our other receivers, even when they fail. At least they look like they are playing hard. Rice looks like "whateves bro".
 

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Rice is a non factor so far this year. Bevell?....c'mon man, we have the personnel to kick asses, but instead he puts us into the asses kicked catagory.
 
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Largent80":qtmpl2n7 said:
Rice is a non factor so far this year. Bevell?....c'mon man, we have the personnel to kick asses, but instead he puts us into the asses kicked catagory.

Well, the offensive line wasn't a problem today. Neither was running the ball. You MUST win those, period, no excuses.
 

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Tech Worlds":2u125ynq said:
Sydney looks for a penalty after each play. Weak sauce. Make a flicken play. He is a non factor for us


I can't understand how he is are #1 WR, all he does is call for the flag and then disapers the rest of the game.
 

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I've said since last season that I hate the empty look - but Russell was able to make some nice plays out of it today. What i don't like is - when that initial read isn't there, we are DEAD.

I've been a Sidney defender for a while but his effort on the final play looked pretty poor. Hard to say for sure, but it didn't look good. And I think he should have been able to make some things happen today. We all assume he's recovered from the knee injury, but you have to wonder if it's affecting him. He looks slow, unexplosive and unable to gain separation (not exactly a strength even when healthy).

I know we ran the ball well at times today, but I feel like the stats over sell just how well we did. We had a number of big plays, from Russell and Marshawn that really inflated our rushing stats, IMO. Well, I guess they didn't inflate them, but I don't feel like we ran the ball with much consistency. A lot of those rushing yards came from Russell, on passing plays.


I'm sure a lot of people are complaining about the officiating today. I can't really add much there, but I'll join in anyway.

I think every big call went against the Hawks today. The blocked punt, a few highly questionable PI calls (on 3rd downs too).

Despite that, and despite being generally depressed that we lost, I'm somewhat optimistic. A lot went against the Hawks today, they didn't play their best game, they made a number of big mistakes and Andrew Luck played EXTREMELY well - with all of that said - it ended up being a 1 score game.

We need to get healthy, and gear up for a battle through the rest of the season.
 

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Did Rice truly give up on that last play?? At the game it appeared that he wasn't aware the ball was even coming his direction. Very very peculiar. And I didn't have the benefit of replay, which I trust you at home may have.
 

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pehawk":1k6z1q9g said:
Second gripe; the last drive play-calling.


Have to say, calling a play action on 4 and 15 with 1:20 left on your 35 yard line with no timeouts is probably one of the stranger things I've seen this year. Totally perplexing.
 

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pehawk":iy1k0ftb said:
I'm not entirely disgusted and depressed as I usually am after a loss. Some thing's happened which don't usually, if ever ,occur. Bad calls and blown plays. Plus that's a good team, that had to earn everything.

What I am concerned about two things however;

BFS has called me a "Sidney" hater in a few threads. Which, while I'm not a hater, I never liked the signing. I just don't trust his effort every play, game or even a season. I don't trust him to be a "#1". He needs to step up a bit. He needs to be the guy to open things up a bit more. He just does. Maybe he's giving full effort, or maybe not, I don't know. But as a #1 he needs to open things up a bit more. And, not going back to the ball on the last pass was pretty inexcusable. Cable looked like he wanted to deck him, and I did too.

Second gripe; the last drive play-calling. I'm a little surprised after Russell scrambles for some large yardage, with a RB next to him, Bevell goes 4 straight plays out of read option. In fact, I don't think the Seahawks should ever go no back, really. Wilson's a threat to run, add two threats to run. Plus, the passing lanes we're mighty large off of shotgun with a RB next to Wilson. It just feels like there's a lot of cuteness for the sake of cuteness, offensively. Just like the loss in Stl last year, this is frustrating because they seeming ran the ball at will, yet they lose. I know its sound simple, but thats only because it is; if you lose while rushing THAT well ITS playcalling.

Please save the "but we're 4-1, quit whining". I'm here to talk football. Yes, I'm content with things, but these are concerns.

I don't see any whining in your post. Your first point is rather subjective and your second cannot be debated. Like yourself, I hate "cute"...we were victims of "cute" last night as well. When you possess a back like Lynch, he has to be in the backfield as much as possible and certainly on any critical plays...regardless of your plans for him in any given play. He scares the dogsh*t out of defenses and can take it long at any point in the game. With the possible exception of 3rd / 4ths and very long, the D has zero reason to believe we are passing when Lynch is back there. This empty backfield crap is just way too frikin' predictable. It has to end.

BUT....I am pleased with our (overall) performance today. The D got gassed and that is explainable, if not understandable. I've said this in every thread but will say it again here, this loss is only going to make us stronger. And if we had to lose...and every team does...I'm just glad it was out of conference. With that out of the way, it's back to the business of winning. Props to a very good Colts team. We'll meet you Hoosiers in the SB, soon.
 
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Did Rice truly give up on that last play?? At the game it appeared that he wasn't aware the ball was even coming his direction. Very very peculiar. And I didn't have the benefit of replay, which I trust you at home may have.

Hard to tell.

Only thing for sure is Cable would've broken that jaw, if given a chance. For real.

How did he look on routes?

Something's up, he's a non-factor. Yes, I'm a "known" hate of his, but I don't know wassup.
 
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Popeyejones":r7307o75 said:
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Second gripe; the last drive play-calling.


Have to say, calling a play action on 4 and 15 with 1:20 left on your 35 yard line with no timeouts is probably one of the stranger things I've seen this year. Totally perplexing.

How about getting a new set of downs, on their 40 or so, but NOT going RO or even making them cover a RB?

Bevell's an enigma?
 

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Of the 3 (out of 4) targets I remember - none of them looked like solid throws or of him being 'open'

He's got to get separation though. Not sure how the colts were getting it.
 

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