MNF - Patriots @ Panthers

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The Hoodie was classic as always. Old man referee on Espn is stoned out of his mind and Chuckie is going to punch him in the face.
 

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JGfromtheNW":tw8px4q9 said:
I can agree on a holding call, but it wasn't catchable so there should have been no PI. We can argue till the cows come home about the contact that was made, but I observed that Gronk only turned to look back and did not try to come back to the ball. If one is trying to catch the ball and/or knows they're getting that type of contact, why would one not try to go back and catch it and at least draw the penalty? He realized that he was 3-4 yards past where the ball was thrown and didn't try to come back to the ball. It lead the referees to believe it was uncatchable.

I have no horse in this race, btw. If anything, I think Carolina winning helps us so I don't care. I wouldn't have minded seeing another huck into the endzone.

He couldnt compete to the ball because he was being held away from the ball. It seriously is irrelevant whether Gronk tried to battle through the defender. Like seriously 100% irrelevant. Please try to argue within the rules why thst point is relevant.
 

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for all of you who didn't believe in the panthers and are too busy jerking off the patriots.

It's called karma



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hawk45":29omtn8d said:
Wish they'd have applied that criteria (ball has to be catchable) when Ponder overthrew a dude by 30 yards in our game.

That was bad.
 

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therealjohncarlson":147bm45x said:
JGfromtheNW":147bm45x said:
I can agree on a holding call, but it wasn't catchable so there should have been no PI. We can argue till the cows come home about the contact that was made, but I observed that Gronk only turned to look back and did not try to come back to the ball. If one is trying to catch the ball and/or knows they're getting that type of contact, why would one not try to go back and catch it and at least draw the penalty? He realized that he was 3-4 yards past where the ball was thrown and didn't try to come back to the ball. It lead the referees to believe it was uncatchable.

I have no horse in this race, btw. If anything, I think Carolina winning helps us so I don't care. I wouldn't have minded seeing another huck into the endzone.

He couldnt compete to the ball because he was being held away from the ball. It seriously is irrelevant whether Gronk tried to battle through the defender. Like seriously 100% irrelevant. Please try to argue within the rules why thst point is relevant.

I think you need to go back and watch the replay and watch how much contact was being made by Keuchly.

It should have been a holding call. If Gronk tries to make a play on it, it should have been PI.
 

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Axx":1jxgnts9 said:
for all of you who didn't believe in the panthers and are too busy jerking off the patriots.

It's called karma



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But thats Brady. Holding is allowed for the great QB's.
 

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Sarlacc83":14ahjlxf said:
Lol. That INT put me back at .3 down. I hate FF.

I had Carolina's defense and my opponent had Amendola. I had a 5 point lead. And this game probably decides if I get hosed out of a playoff spot despite being #2 in points in a 10 man league. Edge of my seat indeed.

I think it was a good idea to pick up that flag, but I am biased. I did NOT want to see another play, the way my luck has gone this year it would only be fitting to miss the playoffs by such an extremely slim margin despite dominating in points almost every week.
 

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KCHawkGirl":1di6hc9s said:
At least Brady showed some class in his presser even though he was pissed big time.
He had a total lack of class after the game. I wonder if he gets fined for following the refs into the tunnel screaming at them.
 

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getnasty":1re114pa said:
The Hoodie was classic as always. Old man referee on Espn is stoned out of his mind and Chuckie is going to punch him in the face.

Gerry Austin. He was absoultely lost there haha. He said "you can't call PI unless the ball is intercepted"

1. That makes no sense
2. The pass was intercepted anyway...
 

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JGfromtheNW":1v5yl3ox said:
therealjohncarlson":1v5yl3ox said:
JGfromtheNW":1v5yl3ox said:
I can agree on a holding call, but it wasn't catchable so there should have been no PI. We can argue till the cows come home about the contact that was made, but I observed that Gronk only turned to look back and did not try to come back to the ball. If one is trying to catch the ball and/or knows they're getting that type of contact, why would one not try to go back and catch it and at least draw the penalty? He realized that he was 3-4 yards past where the ball was thrown and didn't try to come back to the ball. It lead the referees to believe it was uncatchable.

I have no horse in this race, btw. If anything, I think Carolina winning helps us so I don't care. I wouldn't have minded seeing another huck into the endzone.

He couldnt compete to the ball because he was being held away from the ball. It seriously is irrelevant whether Gronk tried to battle through the defender. Like seriously 100% irrelevant. Please try to argue within the rules why thst point is relevant.

I think you need to go back and watch the replay and watch how much contact was being made by Keuchly.

It should have been a holding call. If Gronk tries to make a play on it, it should have been PI.

No way. Ive seen the play replayed and Gronk was literally held out of the endzone. Like seriously both his hands were held and he was escorted out of the endzone.

Again, like I mentioned before, Im not sure why you seem to be giving the benefit of the doubt to the player who cmmitted the penalty. Imo this is backwards logic. Especially knowing the player (gronk), if he wasnt hugged out of the endzone I believe there was a CHANCE Gronk could have come back and caught the ball. AND, it doesnt matter whether you think he wouldn't have, but he MIGHT have. You still need to make the call because it always makes sense to give the benefit of the doubt to the victim, not the penalized player.
 

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Surprised no one mentioned the extremely clear F-bomb Tom Brady dropped on National TV when chasing down the refs. Am I the only one who heard that? Sounded loud and clear to me. I doubt Brady even had a good look at it. Pretty sure he was on his back after that throw.
 

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Natethegreat":gt6zuaw8 said:
KCHawkGirl":gt6zuaw8 said:
At least Brady showed some class in his presser even though he was pissed big time.
He had a total lack of class after the game. I wonder if he gets fined for following the refs into the tunnel screaming at them.
I dont even like Brady but how can you blame him for that. I'd be piss too if the refs pick up a flag and don't even give you a explanation
 

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therealjohncarlson":110d6q10 said:
JGfromtheNW":110d6q10 said:
therealjohncarlson":110d6q10 said:
JGfromtheNW":110d6q10 said:
I can agree on a holding call, but it wasn't catchable so there should have been no PI. We can argue till the cows come home about the contact that was made, but I observed that Gronk only turned to look back and did not try to come back to the ball. If one is trying to catch the ball and/or knows they're getting that type of contact, why would one not try to go back and catch it and at least draw the penalty? He realized that he was 3-4 yards past where the ball was thrown and didn't try to come back to the ball. It lead the referees to believe it was uncatchable.

I have no horse in this race, btw. If anything, I think Carolina winning helps us so I don't care. I wouldn't have minded seeing another huck into the endzone.

He couldnt compete to the ball because he was being held away from the ball. It seriously is irrelevant whether Gronk tried to battle through the defender. Like seriously 100% irrelevant. Please try to argue within the rules why thst point is relevant.

I think you need to go back and watch the replay and watch how much contact was being made by Keuchly.

It should have been a holding call. If Gronk tries to make a play on it, it should have been PI.

No way. Ive seen the play replayed and Gronk was literally held out of the endzone. Like seriously both his hands were held and he was escorted out of the endzone.

Again, like I mentioned before, Im not sure why you seem to be giving the benefit of the doubt to the player who cmmitted the penalty. Imo this is backwards logic. Especially knowing the player (gronk), if he wasnt hugged out of the endzone I believe there was a CHANCE Gronk could have come back and caught the ball. AND, it doesnt matter whether you think he wouldn't have, but he MIGHT have. You still need to make the call because it always makes sense to give the benefit of the doubt to the victim, not the penalized player.

We'll agree to disagree. I don't know why you're spitting fire at me when there are guys on this board calling your view idiotic and what not.

When half of the commentators and analysis feel one way and the other opposite, it is not so black and white.

Once again, it should have been a holding call. So get off my nutsack.
 

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Seahawks4eva":2hz3p8by said:
Surprised no one mentioned the extremely clear F-bomb Tom Brady dropped on National TV when chasing down the refs. Am I the only one who heard that? Sounded loud and clear to me. I doubt Brady even had a good look at it. Pretty sure he was on his back after that throw.

LOl I heard it and it was AWESOME :th2thumbs: I love when players do that
 

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It was interference but for anyone crying tears for the Pats spare me. They get more calls, non calls, go their way then any other team I can think of.


Edit: I forgot the Colts. They get a lot of benefits from refs too.
 

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Natethegreat":128etgwb said:
KCHawkGirl":128etgwb said:
At least Brady showed some class in his presser even though he was pissed big time.
He had a total lack of class after the game. I wonder if he gets fined for following the refs into the tunnel screaming at them.

Don't even blame him, how are you goona throw a flag, and then replays show blatant defensive holding/arguable PI, then just pick up the flag as a ref and say "the game is over". At least explain what you thought you threw the flag for and not just tell everyone to go home.
 

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HawkFan72":14xc8qn8 said:
therealjohncarlson":14xc8qn8 said:

Hard to argue with that. That's a penalty all the way.

Like many have stated, it's clear defensive holding, which means the Pats got robbed of a penalty, but everyone is still arguing over a PI. No real horse in this race, but what should've been called, should have been called.
 
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