Minny’s hc destroyed Wentz for the season

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If this was mma, you’d expect Carson to have been ruled out way before the last drive. Instead, KOC rode him in an out of hand game with a perfectly healthy rostered udfa qb3 available, one that Koc said wasn’t ready for game action. And now he will have to be for the rest of the season unless they want to trade or poach.

Total anti coty vibes here. As terrible as Daboll, Moore and Pete are, they wouldn’t kill their qb2s whereas KOC made it a seeming mission in that out of hand Chargers game.
 
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If this was mma, you’d expect Carson to have been ruled out way before the last drive. Instead, KOC rode him in an out of hand game with a perfectly healthy rostered udfa qb3 available, one that Koc said wasn’t ready for game action. And now he will have to be for the rest of the season unless they want to trade or poach.

Total anti coty vibes here. As terrible as Daboll, Moore and Pete are, they wouldn’t kill their qb2s whereas KOC made it a seeming mission in that out of hand Chargers game.
Your title is deceptive and strictly opinion based.

Fact is, if anything coach failed to protect him from himself but he certainly didn’t “destroy”anything.


The injury happened in the first half and Carson with approval (doctors and coaches) chose to continue playing.
 
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Your title is deceptive and strictly opinion based.

Fact is, if anything coach failed to protect him from himself but he certainly didn’t “destroy”anything.


The injury happened in the first half and Carson with approval (doctors and coaches) chose to continue playing.

Oh, really. Torn labrum, dislocated shoulder and fractured whatever and you as the coach are gonna leave him in there for no reason other than you have no trust in your udfa qb3 who is now your permanent qb2 having taken no regular season snaps.

 

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Oh, really. Torn labrum, dislocated shoulder and fractured whatever and you as the coach are gonna leave him in there for no reason other than you have no trust in your udfa qb3 who is now your permanent qb2 having taken no regular season snaps.


I understand your point.

My point is, Carson wanted to play, nobody forced him.
CW easily could have said “I can’t/won’t”
 
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I understand your point.

My point is, Carson wanted to play, nobody forced him.
CW easily could have said “I can’t/won’t”

We all saw Carson’s last stance when he had to formally tell coach no. It never should have come to that level of public extremis in a game that was out of hand. The fact that he was unwilling to insert his healthy qb3 into a mop up environment transmogrified his error.
 
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If this was mma, you’d expect Carson to have been ruled out way before the last drive. Instead, KOC rode him in an out of hand game with a perfectly healthy rostered udfa qb3 available, one that Koc said wasn’t ready for game action. And now he will have to be for the rest of the season unless they want to trade or poach.

Total anti coty vibes here. As terrible as Daboll, Moore and Pete are, they wouldn’t kill their qb2s whereas KOC made it a seeming mission in that out of hand Chargers game.
 
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Your title is deceptive and strictly opinion based.

Fact is, if anything coach failed to protect him from himself but he certainly didn’t “destroy”anything.


The injury happened in the first half and Carson with approval (doctors and coaches) chose to continue playing.

Oh, really. Torn labrum, dislocated shoulder and fractured whatever and you as the coach are gonna leave him in there for no reason other than you had no trust in your udfa qb3 to execute mop up in a game out of hand. Coach saved his football virginity as qb3 only to have him as qb2 for the rest of the season. Wentz meanwhile, won’t even be available in meetings? Straight up quarterback room management failure.
 

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Crazy that Wentz wanted to keep playing despite. And that the doctor allowed it. It's not just a sprained ankle or a bruised rib. Dislocated shoulder, torn labrum, and fractured socket sound unimaginably painful, and I would think getting hit a certain way, or hitting the turf with enough force, could greatly worsen the injury. But what do I know, I'm not a doctor.
 

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Dude wants to win. Players doing anything they can is nothing new. It's also on his coaches and medical staff. They allowed him to go back out there.
 
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What happened in Minny would be like Kubiak witnessing the physical destruction of Drew Lock in an out of hand game while declining Milroe the experience of extended mop-up duty.

Taylor Heineke would seemingly be the best free agent option out there. The Chargers’ qb2 in 2024, he lost his job to Trey Lance. It’s weird how he hasn’t been tried out while options like Nathan Peterman and Desmond Ridder have been. Thats your top three free agent options, with the other avenues being trade (unlikely for a qb2) or poaching for ps winner Bailey Zappe unto the active 53
 

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KOC and Shanny seem to play their players like it's play or bust every games the SB
That's a recipe to get injuries just like the whiners are going through as opposed to what MM does and hold guys out even when it looks bad without them
Hopefully KK keeps his trick plays and milroe pkgs until it's a blowout so the fallout doesn't lose us games
If you take out every one of them than we would be possibly 6-1 , at least we'd have a lot less fumbles and not lose rhythm during important games
MM thought not blitzing TB would work and I'm glad that game made him change his mind so im praying kk takes his head coaches cue and follows suit
Go Hawks
 
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KOC and Shanny seem to play their players like it's play or bust every games the SB
That's a recipe to get injuries just like the whiners are going through as opposed to what MM does and hold guys out even when it looks bad without them
Hopefully KK keeps his trick plays and milroe pkgs until it's a blowout so the fallout doesn't lose us games
If you take out every one of them than we would be possibly 6-1 , at least we'd have a lot less fumbles and not lose rhythm during important games
MM thought not blitzing TB would work and I'm glad that game made him change his mind so im praying kk takes his head coaches cue and follows suit
Go Hawks

When Shanahan saw Mac Jones down in pain for cramps during the rams game, he said he started preparing play calls for Adrian Martinez only to look up and discover Mac was running back out there. Mac did not look progressively gimpy afterward. And tellingly, Kyle mentioned that the game was tied at that time. Thats when it’s worth keeping your qb2 out there as opposed to an out of hand game in which there would be no sense in risking him.
 

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It's hard to understand what O'Connell is thinking about his quarterback situation. Leaving a player in the game when he was so injured that he was put on IR after the game makes no sense.


Many commentators believe that he is reluctant to play McCarthy because he now thinks that he isn't ready. This off-season, he let Darnold and Jones walk, traded with the Seahawks to get Sam Howell by swapping 5th round picks, then released Howell and signed Wentz.

No matter who he puts in at QB, their game against the Lions this Sunday is not going to be pretty.
 
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It's hard to understand what O'Connell is thinking about his quarterback situation. Leaving a player in the game when he was so injured that he was put on IR after the game makes no sense.


Many commentators believe that he is reluctant to play McCarthy because he now thinks that he isn't ready. This off-season, he let Darnold and Jones walk, traded with the Seahawks to get Sam Howell by swapping 5th round picks, then released Howell and signed Wentz.

No matter who he puts in at QB, their game against the Lions this Sunday is not going to be pretty.

It maybe does when a game is tied like at Niners Rams when Kyle didn’t stop Mac from running back out after a tv timeout where we saw him rolling on the turf. If it had been 40-10, Kyle would have stuck Martinez out there. They’d be losing. Those kinds of scores are when both sides send in their backups anyway.

The Vikings could have used that second half of their rams game as experience for Max Brosmer instead of destroying Wentz. Now Brosmer is backing up McCarthy with no experience whatsoever. Koc signed John Wolford to the ps today, meaning he’s ineligible to be promoted as an emergency quarterback.

All of which makes me wonder how Koc was so good with Sam. Or if Sam was actually good in spite of instead of koc. There’s a reason Sam consistently praises the Shanahan system and Purdy vs Minnesota for where he is.
 

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